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Since: Jul 12

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#1 Feb 2, 2013
For those who attended the Jan 17 mtg, if not get the chance to watch it. You will see Turner at his finest moments. No this is not in support of Darren either, it does deal with Darren.

As a citizen who during the non-agenda section gets up to speak publicly and what is the first words out of Turner's and the lapdog crew. He is running for office and should not be allowed to campaign during his 5 minutes.

He didn't announce his itnentions, he started off by wanting to bring the accountability attention to the city as well. So after 10 minutes of debating with Ron, and the lapdog comments, Ron decides to let him continue with his questions.

Now think about this for a second, then under that same guideline of not using the city mtg for a campaign speech, then why, week after week do we hear from Turner, Van Dyke, Kelly. Nothing wrong in bringing up the issue, buts lets not spend 20-30 mintues on it as if you were campaigning yourself.

This was just another case of the usual Turner and lapdogs, trying to deflect attention away from other issues that involve the city that needs review. Another case of trying to insult the same taxpayers who pay their salary, No different then what goes on at most mtgs, whenever any taxpayer who does not agree with Turner and lapdogs, they will always have smart remarks once the speaker leaves the podium and doesn't get the chance to reply to those smart remarks, and in the end never answer the questions that was asked during the public mtg from the taxpayer.

This should be interesting to read the replies that will follow.
Lockport Local

Lockport, IL

#2 Feb 2, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
For those who attended the Jan 17 mtg, if not get the chance to watch it. You will see Turner at his finest moments. No this is not in support of Darren either, it does deal with Darren.
As a citizen who during the non-agenda section gets up to speak publicly and what is the first words out of Turner's and the lapdog crew. He is running for office and should not be allowed to campaign during his 5 minutes.
He didn't announce his itnentions, he started off by wanting to bring the accountability attention to the city as well. So after 10 minutes of debating with Ron, and the lapdog comments, Ron decides to let him continue with his questions.
Now think about this for a second, then under that same guideline of not using the city mtg for a campaign speech, then why, week after week do we hear from Turner, Van Dyke, Kelly. Nothing wrong in bringing up the issue, buts lets not spend 20-30 mintues on it as if you were campaigning yourself.
This was just another case of the usual Turner and lapdogs, trying to deflect attention away from other issues that involve the city that needs review. Another case of trying to insult the same taxpayers who pay their salary, No different then what goes on at most mtgs, whenever any taxpayer who does not agree with Turner and lapdogs, they will always have smart remarks once the speaker leaves the podium and doesn't get the chance to reply to those smart remarks, and in the end never answer the questions that was asked during the public mtg from the taxpayer.
This should be interesting to read the replies that will follow.
Marynowski did the same thing at Lago Vista. She would not allow the Mayor to come and speak to the homeowners saying the mayor's presence at the meetings was political. She got away with it when both Peretta and the Mayor caved. Now these meetings are at best uninformative, with little attendance. This exactly what was wanted by Turner. Silence any body using any excuse. Don't drink the Kool Aid people!
Pete do you ever

Plainfield, IL

#3 Feb 2, 2013
Pete do you ever get tired of posting these silly remarks? You would think with your family and job there wouldn't be time for you to sit in your underwear and post on topix all day.

I for one, think it's hilarious. Turner probably does too, if he ever reads this crap on topix.

Oh and don't bother calling me Turner that will only make me laugh harder.
Pete

Lockport, IL

#4 Feb 2, 2013
Pete do you ever wrote:
Pete do you ever get tired of posting these silly remarks? You would think with your family and job there wouldn't be time for you to sit in your underwear and post on topix all day.
I for one, think it's hilarious. Turner probably does too, if he ever reads this crap on topix.
Oh and don't bother calling me Turner that will only make me laugh harder.
Come on, Wheaton Kelly, come up with something better than this. It is hilarious to all of us that know you. You are the phony!

Since: Jul 12

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#5 Feb 2, 2013
Pete do you ever wrote:
Pete do you ever get tired of posting these silly remarks? You would think with your family and job there wouldn't be time for you to sit in your underwear and post on topix all day.
I for one, think it's hilarious. Turner probably does too, if he ever reads this crap on topix.
Oh and don't bother calling me Turner that will only make me laugh harder.
As I have said countless times before, you would be suprised to know who I really am. I shake hands with almost each councilmen before each meeting. No, I am not Pete,Darren,Ron,Joe etc either.

AT least give us your opinion on the topic rather than always blaming somebody else.
Lockport

Lockport, IL

#6 Feb 2, 2013
I watched the meeting on youtube. All Mr. Deskin was demanding is that Robinson finally come to the podium and present their water proposal. The story here is that the Turner gang tried to deny him his 1st Amendment right of free speech.

Deskin was sworn in on Friday to fill the vacant 3rd Ward spot. He must have know he was going to be sitting on the council at the next council meeting.

Why wouldn't someone who knew he was going to be an active council member request that the engineering company finally come to the podium after almost 2 years of avoiding the residents of Lockport?

Robinson has some explaining to do. I'm hoping we the residents finally get some answers.

Since: Jul 12

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#7 Feb 2, 2013
Lockport wrote:
I watched the meeting on youtube. All Mr. Deskin was demanding is that Robinson finally come to the podium and present their water proposal. The story here is that the Turner gang tried to deny him his 1st Amendment right of free speech.
Deskin was sworn in on Friday to fill the vacant 3rd Ward spot. He must have know he was going to be sitting on the council at the next council meeting.
Why wouldn't someone who knew he was going to be an active council member request that the engineering company finally come to the podium after almost 2 years of avoiding the residents of Lockport?
Robinson has some explaining to do. I'm hoping we the residents finally get some answers.
Trust me the billing hours to Odelson along with Robinson are going full throttle, in order to come up with a plan by next meeting. There will be more residents(taxpayers) attending asking the same question. Lets see how the HEAD COWARD and lapdogs respond. These taxpayers are not running for office, so will not be a campaign speech either. What will HEAD COWARD and lapdogs think of next to try and stop the taxpayers from speaking and asking questions.
Pete

Lockport, IL

#8 Feb 3, 2013
Come on, Kelly Turner, come all over my wrinkly, dried-up face! I need you, I need something better than this.....all this mastrubating to your name and picture. I am hilarious to all that know me. I am the phony!

Since: Jul 12

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#9 Feb 4, 2013
Pete wrote:
Come on, Kelly Turner, come all over my wrinkly, dried-up face! I need you, I need something better than this.....all this mastrubating to your name and picture. I am hilarious to all that know me. I am the phony!
Typical lapodog or HEAD COWARD response!!
Barry Goldwater

Lockport, IL

#10 Feb 5, 2013
Is there really this much graft in our small town? The numbers should be easily traced. We must get this downtown project underway if we are to see any condo or storefront revival in our lifetime. If there really is bill padding and graft, file in Federal court. Enough of the hand ringing. Lets build knowing theft may occur and we can monitor the construction budget with great scrutiny. Set the trap and get going on our towns future. From what I have witnessed in that council chamber...there is not one person smart enough to get away with what all seem to fear.

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#11 Feb 5, 2013
Barry Goldwater wrote:
Is there really this much graft in our small town? The numbers should be easily traced. We must get this downtown project underway if we are to see any condo or storefront revival in our lifetime. If there really is bill padding and graft, file in Federal court. Enough of the hand ringing. Lets build knowing theft may occur and we can monitor the construction budget with great scrutiny. Set the trap and get going on our towns future. From what I have witnessed in that council chamber...there is not one person smart enough to get away with what all seem to fear.
The figures would be easily traceable if the city opened its books to the same scrutiny they are expecting of the chamber.
Yes the chkbook is online, but that does not show how much they took in, what is the balances of each account month by month, what are the ITEMIZED bills they are paying. All we can see is bottom dollar, nothing to show far as new projects are concerned, failing infrastructure, failing development. While surrounding communities are moving forward, we have suddenly become stagent with study after study.
Chumbalone

Downers Grove, IL

#12 Feb 5, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
The figures would be easily traceable if the city opened its books to the same scrutiny they are expecting of the chamber.
Yes the chkbook is online, but that does not show how much they took in, what is the balances of each account month by month, what are the ITEMIZED bills they are paying. All we can see is bottom dollar, nothing to show far as new projects are concerned, failing infrastructure, failing development. While surrounding communities are moving forward, we have suddenly become stagent with study after study.
Are you really that dumb ?? You are ACCUSING the City of Lockport of graft,bribery and corruption with absolutely no proof or facts...except YOU blowing smoke ! That would mean that the Finance Director, the accountants that audited the city books, the Mayor, the City Attorney and the now gone City Administrator were ALL involved with some scam hiding bills and stealing money ! Are you really that goofy ? The Chamber is a self sustaining entity made up of business owners for the sole benefit of business owners. The Chamber can make or lose money with what they do....AND THEY LOST MONEY BIG TIME and took "in-kind" city services money to boot. What accounting firm audited their books ? All one of their ex-members did was read a BS letter yapping against the City council ! What a joke...that knucklehead had the gall to jump on the city council after the City GAVE THAT BUNCH A BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYER MONEY ! And...to make matters even worse...this bunch elects a sitting alderman as president who DOES NOT operate or own a business !! BUT...I guess people with blinders on thinks that is OK. What a joke !!!!!!!!!

Since: Jul 12

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#13 Feb 5, 2013
Chumbalone wrote:
<quoted text> Are you really that dumb ?? You are ACCUSING the City of Lockport of graft,bribery and corruption with absolutely no proof or facts...except YOU blowing smoke ! That would mean that the Finance Director, the accountants that audited the city books, the Mayor, the City Attorney and the now gone City Administrator were ALL involved with some scam hiding bills and stealing money ! Are you really that goofy ? The Chamber is a self sustaining entity made up of business owners for the sole benefit of business owners. The Chamber can make or lose money with what they do....AND THEY LOST MONEY BIG TIME and took "in-kind" city services money to boot. What accounting firm audited their books ? All one of their ex-members did was read a BS letter yapping against the City council ! What a joke...that knucklehead had the gall to jump on the city council after the City GAVE THAT BUNCH A BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYER MONEY ! And...to make matters even worse...this bunch elects a sitting alderman as president who DOES NOT operate or own a business !! BUT...I guess people with blinders on thinks that is OK. What a joke !!!!!!!!!
The same finance director that runs the cities books, so if he isn't good enough to go over the books for the chamber, then he should be fired for running the books for the city. So in your mind, lets cancel all events unless the city has no skin in the game, but only the city reaps the benefits. Do you believe canal days from the first year was a great money maker like it is know? By the way, I don't call a big chunk of money $72,000 over 3 yrs, I do call over 1 million to Robinson in 2 yrs a big chunk of money. Please show us something besides old projects already on the books and the countless studies that have been done. Nothing new for the city from this council, except a BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYERS MONEY out the windows for studies to Robinson. Why doesn't the city open its books the same they are asking the chamber to do. Lets let any taxpayer come into city hall, and have the chance to look at the full checkbook and accounts, what is the city hiding. Don't ask someobdy else for something that you are not willing to produce.

Thanks for chiming in, thought maybe Chumbalone left town. See you tmrw at the mtg.
Lockport Local

Lockport, IL

#14 Feb 5, 2013
Chumbalone wrote:
<quoted text> Are you really that dumb ?? You are ACCUSING the City of Lockport of graft,bribery and corruption with absolutely no proof or facts...except YOU blowing smoke ! That would mean that the Finance Director, the accountants that audited the city books, the Mayor, the City Attorney and the now gone City Administrator were ALL involved with some scam hiding bills and stealing money ! Are you really that goofy ? The Chamber is a self sustaining entity made up of business owners for the sole benefit of business owners. The Chamber can make or lose money with what they do....AND THEY LOST MONEY BIG TIME and took "in-kind" city services money to boot. What accounting firm audited their books ? All one of their ex-members did was read a BS letter yapping against the City council ! What a joke...that knucklehead had the gall to jump on the city council after the City GAVE THAT BUNCH A BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYER MONEY ! And...toes make matters even worse...this bunch elects a sitting alderman as president who DOES NOT operate or own a business !! BUT...I guess people with blinders on thinks that is OK. What a joke !!!!!!!!!
The present majority got elected on saving a few pennies on a water bill. Now we are in deep trouble with the EPA. We have given out no bid contracts for more than 3/4 of a million. The majority hid the fact that an alderman in the 3rd Ward was living out of town and still receiving a monthly salary. "In kind services" are not something that was stolen. It was not like someone received cash for no work or things that we have witnessed with Robinson and Bert and Ernie. That is why they are called the "Slimys".
Ask them NO questions t

Lockport, IL

#15 Feb 5, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
The same finance director that runs the cities books, so if he isn't good enough to go over the books for the chamber, then he should be fired for running the books for the city. So in your mind, lets cancel all events unless the city has no skin in the game, but only the city reaps the benefits. Do you believe canal days from the first year was a great money maker like it is know? By the way, I don't call a big chunk of money $72,000 over 3 yrs, I do call over 1 million to Robinson in 2 yrs a big chunk of money. Please show us something besides old projects already on the books and the countless studies that have been done. Nothing new for the city from this council, except a BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYERS MONEY out the windows for studies to Robinson. Why doesn't the city open its books the same they are asking the chamber to do. Lets let any taxpayer come into city hall, and have the chance to look at the full checkbook and accounts, what is the city hiding. Don't ask someobdy else for something that you are not willing to produce.
Thanks for chiming in, thought maybe Chumbalone left town. See you tmrw at the mtg.
Chum=Kelly/Dickie! Ask them NO questions and they will tell you NO lies!
Ramble on old man

Lockport, IL

#16 Feb 5, 2013
Lockport Local wrote:
<quoted text>The present majority got elected on saving a few pennies on a water bill. Now we are in deep trouble with the EPA. We have given out no bid contracts for more than 3/4 of a million. The majority hid the fact that an alderman in the 3rd Ward was living out of town and still receiving a monthly salary. "In kind services" are not something that was stolen. It was not like someone received cash for no work or things that we have witnessed with Robinson and Bert and Ernie. That is why they are called the "Slimys".
Wow, a few pennies. Can we all go to McDonalds with that and have a dollar hamburger and fries! That is really going to get this town far! Chumbalone and his hundreds of names and identities are well known on here! I thought Eric looked over the books of the Chamber and saw nothing! He still continues on his path of lies! It is so sickening! He is such an unhappy old man, no wife, no family, no friends, no ambitions for this town, accomplishments, no respect for the residents, etc. The rest of us have families, wives, hobbies, and this guy's hobby is rambling on here! He and his nonsense we can all do without. OPEN THE CITY BOOKS NOW, NOT THE CITY CHECKBOOK, BUT HOW IT IS BEING SPENT AND FOR WHAT???? NOW!!!!
Ramble on old man

Lockport, IL

#17 Feb 5, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
The figures would be easily traceable if the city opened its books to the same scrutiny they are expecting of the chamber.
Yes the chkbook is online, but that does not show how much they took in, what is the balances of each account month by month, what are the ITEMIZED bills they are paying. All we can see is bottom dollar, nothing to show far as new projects are concerned, failing infrastructure, failing development. While surrounding communities are moving forward, we have suddenly become stagent with study after study.
This guy knows what he is talking about, and the full truth is not out there to the residents and now we are talking A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY, OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO HIS FRIENDS!! LET US KNOW THE ITEMIZED BILLS NOW!!!!

Since: Dec 12

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#18 Feb 5, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
Trust me the billing hours to Odelson along with Robinson are going full throttle, in order to come up with a plan by next meeting. There will be more residents(taxpayers) attending asking the same question. Lets see how the HEAD COWARD and lapdogs respond. These taxpayers are not running for office, so will not be a campaign speech either. What will HEAD COWARD and lapdogs think of next to try and stop the taxpayers from speaking and asking questions.
I would not put it past the former majority to boycott meetings. Unfortunately for them (5 ILCS 120/2.01)(from Ch. 102, par. 42.01) applies. Even better if the former majority refuses to attend the meetings this ordinance
could be applied
http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illino... $fn=altmain-nf.htm$3.0#JD_30.0 02

(D) If no quorum is present and the members present desire to compel the attendance of absent members, they themselves, or by their agents, shall attempt to communicate the call to the session personally to the absentees. Any absent member who refuses to attend the meeting (or a new meeting to which the members present have adjourned) after personal notice to attend, may be fined by the members present a sum not to exceed $25 for each occurrence.

(`79 Code, 30.003)(Ord. 919, passed 12-1-80)

I would so love to see it happen
Chumbalone

Downers Grove, IL

#19 Feb 6, 2013
thoughts or ideas wrote:
<quoted text>
The same finance director that runs the cities books, so if he isn't good enough to go over the books for the chamber, then he should be fired for running the books for the city. So in your mind, lets cancel all events unless the city has no skin in the game, but only the city reaps the benefits. Do you believe canal days from the first year was a great money maker like it is know? By the way, I don't call a big chunk of money $72,000 over 3 yrs, I do call over 1 million to Robinson in 2 yrs a big chunk of money. Please show us something besides old projects already on the books and the countless studies that have been done. Nothing new for the city from this council, except a BIG CHUNK OF TAXPAYERS MONEY out the windows for studies to Robinson. Why doesn't the city open its books the same they are asking the chamber to do. Lets let any taxpayer come into city hall, and have the chance to look at the full checkbook and accounts, what is the city hiding. Don't ask someobdy else for something that you are not willing to produce.
Thanks for chiming in, thought maybe Chumbalone left town. See you tmrw at the mtg.
Yep...YOU ARE THAT DUMB !! Reading your nonsense proves it !

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#20 Feb 6, 2013
Chumbalone wrote:
<quoted text> Yep...YOU ARE THAT DUMB !! Reading your nonsense proves it !
care to explain your opinion. It is so easy just like a lapdog to make statements without backing it up. Next you will tell us how the city saved money by firing a full time employee making less than 80,000 for a Part-Time ROBINSON employee for $98,500.

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