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Professor

United States

#2 Dec 28, 2012
Gunner wrote:
How many of you got your AR15 before Obummer outlaws them
I own two of them from the early 1980's. I love them. They are both Colt pre bans. Just looked online, people are selling them for $3K. I paid $500 a piece. The government will never get my weapons. I'm looking to buy a case of ammo. I usually purchase out of shotgun news. Any suggestions?
lebeR

New Lenox, IL

#3 Dec 28, 2012
Gunner wrote:
How many of you got your AR15 before Obummer outlaws them
I am going to buy 2 lower stocks and keep them to build later.
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#4 Dec 29, 2012
Pof, do you thnk the Feds are not watching ALL internet taffic? I would keep my mouth shut about this if I were you.
Jackpot

Wilmington, IL

#5 Dec 29, 2012
I need a handgun to kill coyotes on my property to protect my little dogs. I live in the country so I can shoot them. Any suggestions on what kind I should consider?
Professor

United States

#6 Dec 29, 2012
Unincorporated wrote:
Pof, do you thnk the Feds are not watching ALL internet taffic? I would keep my mouth shut about this if I were you.
Thanks uni.
Trash

Carol Stream, IL

#7 Dec 29, 2012
What a bunch of God loving hillbillies you are. Take those guns and shoot yourselves.
Professor

United States

#8 Dec 29, 2012
Trash wrote:
What a bunch of God loving hillbillies you are. Take those guns and shoot yourselves.
I will pray that you seek the psycological counseling that you are in desperate need of.
THE WISEGUY

Homer Glen, IL

#9 Dec 29, 2012
Jackpot wrote:
I need a handgun to kill coyotes on my property to protect my little dogs. I live in the country so I can shoot them. Any suggestions on what kind I should consider?
Ruger security six .357. http://www.history.com/shows/top-shot/videos/...
YYoung Gunoung Gun

Mokena, IL

#11 Dec 29, 2012
Trash wrote:
What a bunch of God loving hillbillies you are. Take those guns and shoot yourselves.
This liberal movement is violently scary. If this statement doesn't display why we need to be armed...... nothing will.
Join the NRA

West Chicago, IL

#13 Dec 29, 2012
I bought mine back in the early 90's Colt AR also have the mini 14 bought way back.
Both very good weapons and mine never assaulted anyone.
I do not hunt but target shoot.
Fear

Frankfort, IL

#14 Dec 29, 2012
YYoung Gunoung Gun wrote:
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This liberal movement is violently scary. If this statement doesn't display why we need to be armed...... nothing will.
Everything is "violently scary" too you. That is why you want to be armed all the time. Fear controls you.
secret id

New Lenox, IL

#16 Dec 29, 2012
THE WISEGUY wrote:
<quoted text>Ruger security six .357. http://www.history.com/shows/top-shot/videos/...
I have a 357 and it was fun to use for target practicing in Wisconsin, but too large for me. Is there something that is powerful enough for coyote hunting, but compact enough for personal/home security?
knucklehead

Orland Park, IL

#17 Dec 29, 2012
Jackpot wrote:
I need a handgun to kill coyotes on my property to protect my little dogs. I live in the country so I can shoot them. Any suggestions on what kind I should consider?
45 long colt or a 44 special should work, you can get a ruger vaquero for about $450-$500
knucklehead

Orland Park, IL

#18 Dec 29, 2012
secret id wrote:
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I have a 357 and it was fun to use for target practicing in Wisconsin, but too large for me. Is there something that is powerful enough for coyote hunting, but compact enough for personal/home security?
I have personally had to put down an injured deer and used .45 acp, double tap to head and was an instant kill, maybe a glock model 36 or 21, or a model 1911.
Professor

United States

#19 Dec 29, 2012
Shooting is just a fun relaxing sport for me and my family. The rage against guns by these left wing wackos is insane. If they only had a brain to think on their own they would agree.
Trash

Carol Stream, IL

#21 Dec 30, 2012
Scumbags.

Mexicans suck, guns are awesome, gays are a sin, abortion is terrible, God exists.

That's the right wing stance. Who's the whacko?
John Sanchez

Yorkville, IL

#22 Dec 30, 2012
Coyote hunting with a hand gun? One has to appreciate the humor in teatard musings. They swear up and down that a gun is a tool, and then fall all over themselves to choose the wrong tool.

Are you going to get the coyote to pose for you at less than 20 yards? No? Then the only thing that you're likely to kill with that hand gun is whatever shows up in the carelessly surveyed background behind your problem coyote.

The correct tool for hunting coyotes at relatively close ranges (under 100 yards) is a shotgun. At over 100 yards, let them go.

What is your interest in killing coyotes, anyway? Do they threaten your livestock, or are you taking advantage of a case where you can shoot a passerby and get away with it?
Sohn Janchez

Frankfort, IL

#23 Dec 30, 2012
John Sanchez wrote:
Coyote hunting with a hand gun? One has to appreciate the humor in teatard musings. They swear up and down that a gun is a tool, and then fall all over themselves to choose the wrong tool.
Are you going to get the coyote to pose for you at less than 20 yards? No? Then the only thing that you're likely to kill with that hand gun is whatever shows up in the carelessly surveyed background behind your problem coyote.
The correct tool for hunting coyotes at relatively close ranges (under 100 yards) is a shotgun. At over 100 yards, let them go.
What is your interest in killing coyotes, anyway? Do they threaten your livestock, or are you taking advantage of a case where you can shoot a passerby and get away with it?
John, have you ever seen the remains of a pet dog that was unfortunate enough to be out in the back yard when the coyotes got to him? Perhaps you aren't a pet lover or could care less about domesticated animals. Try that explanation on a five-year old child after she discovers the leftover fur and body parts of her now departed pooch. John, THAT IS WHY you kill coyotes. Unless you feel pets are a reasonable food source for wild animals.

It is obvious that you've gleaned your knowledge of firearms from The Saturday Liberal Post. By your explanation it's perfectly safe to be 20 or more yards from a hand gun. I seriously doubt that you would back up your words with action and stand in for target practice at that range. Ask any peace officer that's investigated a drive-by shooting how deadly a hand gun can be from long range. Better yet, ask the mother of the dead child that was playing on the parlor floor as the bullets flashed through the window on their way to devistation. I know at this point your fingers are nervously twitching as you anticipate posting a witty (you think) and piercing response. Have at it, I'm more than sixty feet away.
John Sanchez

Yorkville, IL

#24 Dec 30, 2012
Sohn Janchez wrote:
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John, have you ever seen the remains of a pet dog that was unfortunate enough to be out in the back yard when the coyotes got to him? Perhaps you aren't a pet lover or could care less about domesticated animals. Try that explanation on a five-year old child after she discovers the leftover fur and body parts of her now departed pooch. John, THAT IS WHY you kill coyotes. Unless you feel pets are a reasonable food source for wild animals.
It is obvious that you've gleaned your knowledge of firearms from The Saturday Liberal Post. By your explanation it's perfectly safe to be 20 or more yards from a hand gun. I seriously doubt that you would back up your words with action and stand in for target practice at that range. Ask any peace officer that's investigated a drive-by shooting how deadly a hand gun can be from long range. Better yet, ask the mother of the dead child that was playing on the parlor floor as the bullets flashed through the window on their way to devistation. I know at this point your fingers are nervously twitching as you anticipate posting a witty (you think) and piercing response. Have at it, I'm more than sixty feet away.
Evidently your derivative thought patterns don't stop at misappropriating a pseudonym. There are, after all, other ways to secure one's pets from predation, ranging from maintaining enclosures that the predators cannot easily gain access to, to setting live traps to have them removed from the area; any of which would be more effective that blasting away with a pistol.

Yes, pistol ammunition is very dangerous beyond twenty yard ranges. But it takes an expert pistol marksman to reliably hit a moving target much beyond that range. Certainly at ranges beyond 50 yards, it is almost out of the question without the types of rounds that have high muzzle velocities and flat trajectories rivaling rifle rounds. That means that the average schmo with a handgun, is unlikely to do damage with an aimed shot, but may do considerable unintentional damage to things that he didn't aim at. That is a big part of the reason that a pistol is a poor choice for protecting one's, umm, pets, yeah pets, from predators.

Most .45 caliber ammunition, used in model 1911 type handguns, has a muzzle velocity of 850 ft./sec. The practical conclusion to be inferred from that is that placing the sights of the pistol on a target at a range beyond 50 yards means that the fall of shot will be well below the aim point due to the effect of gravity on the bullet. It takes an expert to reliably compensate for that effect, and most shooters are far from expert, especially those who just unpacked that new Model 1911 in order to control the coyotes in their back yard.
Neighor

Bolingbrook, IL

#25 Dec 30, 2012
Johnny, Johnny, Johnny....lol While your calculating all that, your dog was eaten visciously and died. In Sohn's case, the coyote has run off or is now dead. His pet is safe, his kid thankful.

As for hunting Coyote? I only know one person who does that, and he uses traps. He has 8 acres in Burlington WI, and makes $1,800/yr selling hides.

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