Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

There are 20 comments on the Nov 30, 2010, CBS2 story titled Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions. In it, CBS2 reports that:

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#42196 Sep 23, 2013
Neil An Blowme wrote:
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Obviously, you have NO IDEA whatsoever about the difference between scientific fact and your opinion.
Scientific fact..... that is HILARIOUS! The scientific fact is this: You are a pathological liar.
How old are you?
CDC

Saint Louis, MO

#42197 Sep 23, 2013
AGENDABLOWHARD: That Neil is one a roll today.
Useless and rambling type of roll that is.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#42198 Sep 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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How old are you?
Old enough to spot a phony when I see one, and you are a STAND OUT.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#42199 Sep 23, 2013
CDC wrote:
AGENDABLOWHARD: That Neil is one a roll today.
Useless and rambling type of roll that is.
Yet you responded.... that makes you less than stupid.
CDC

Saint Louis, MO

#42200 Sep 23, 2013
AGENDICTABLE: Neil-The predictable agendist.
Neil An Blowme wrote:
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Yet you responded.... that makes you less than stupid.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#42201 Sep 23, 2013
CDC wrote:
AGENDICTABLE: Neil-The predictable agendist.
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CDC.... the cowardly liar.
CDC

Saint Louis, MO

#42202 Sep 23, 2013
Hopefully, you feel better.
Now go back to playing with yourself.
Neil An Blowme wrote:
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CDC.... the cowardly liar.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#42203 Sep 23, 2013
CDC wrote:
Hopefully, you feel better.
Now go back to playing with yourself.
<quoted text>
I have people for that
Kresimir

Irvine, CA

#42204 Sep 23, 2013
"The whole point of mating behavior is procreation." - KiMare

Sorry to tell you, but marriage as we know it hasn't been about procreation in a long time

When you read stories like "Snow White" or "Cinderella" to your kids, where prince and princess finally get together; is it a happy ending because now they can finally procreate? Or is it more along the lines of true love conquering all... things like marriages arranged for the purpose of procreation?

Most people will tell you the right answer. And once you realize this, you'll know why LGBT must win this battle if they want social acceptance.
CDC

Saint Louis, MO

#42205 Sep 23, 2013
I'll have my people contact your people.
Neil An Blowme wrote:
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I have people for that

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#42206 Sep 23, 2013
Kresimir wrote:
"The whole point of mating behavior is procreation." - KiMare
Sorry to tell you, but marriage as we know it hasn't been about procreation in a long time
When you read stories like "Snow White" or "Cinderella" to your kids, where prince and princess finally get together; is it a happy ending because now they can finally procreate? Or is it more along the lines of true love conquering all... things like marriages arranged for the purpose of procreation?
Most people will tell you the right answer. And once you realize this, you'll know why LGBT must win this battle if they want social acceptance.
I agree that falling in love plays a big part. The problem is, you can fall out of love just as easy. They are little more than accidents. Hence the divorce rate and out of wed-lock arrangements when we removed children by easy divorce and abortion.

This is where the constraint of marriage on evolutionary mating behavior is clearly a restraint on passion to be responsible. To choose love that embraces the human fruit of that love in a healthy way.
Huh

Owatonna, MN

#42207 Sep 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I agree that falling in love plays a big part. The problem is, you can fall out of love just as easy. They are little more than accidents. Hence the divorce rate and out of wed-lock arrangements when we removed children by easy divorce and abortion.
This is where the constraint of marriage on evolutionary mating behavior is clearly a restraint on passion to be responsible. To choose love that embraces the human fruit of that love in a healthy way.
Lucky divorce is legal. can you imagine of the religious had got there way on that subject...Women would be trapped being beat by thuggish cavemen like you and your fellow Nazi pigs.
beers

Oswego, IL

#42208 Sep 23, 2013
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Lucky divorce is legal. can you imagine of the religious had got there way on that subject...Women would be trapped being beat by thuggish cavemen like you and your fellow Nazi pigs.
What about Tiger Woods wife? Aileen Wuornos, Anna Marie Hahn, The Black Widow, Caroline Warmus. All women who killed men. Should I continue?

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#42209 Sep 23, 2013
Supreme Court:
"Congress... cannot deny the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.
...the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

The liberty protected by the Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause contains within it the prohibition against denying to any person the equal protection of the laws. While the Fifth Amendment itself withdraws from the Government the power to degrade or demean in the way this law does, the equal protection guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment makes that Fifth Amendment right all the more specific and all the better understood and preserved."
(Windsor)
beers

Oswego, IL

#42210 Sep 23, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Supreme Court:
"Congress... cannot deny the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.
...the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

The liberty protected by the Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause contains within it the prohibition against denying to any person the equal protection of the laws. While the Fifth Amendment itself withdraws from the Government the power to degrade or demean in the way this law does, the equal protection guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment makes that Fifth Amendment right all the more specific and all the better understood and preserved."
(Windsor)

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Tell me how the gay movement isn't infringing upon our rights?
List of current gay boycotts
http://www.queerty.com/dont-buy-here-10-compa...

http://pinkpanthers.tumblr.com/post/618605551...

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#42211 Sep 23, 2013
beers wrote:
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Tell me how the gay movement isn't infringing upon our rights?
List of current gay boycotts
http://www.queerty.com/dont-buy-here-10-compa...
http://pinkpanthers.tumblr.com/post/618605551...
No rights are lost by removing restrictions.

Your side is notorious for boycotts as well. The difference remains, we are not trying to use the law to deny equal rights to you.

You are still free to think, believe, say, write, and do all of the other things you were free to do before same sex marriages became recognized under the same laws in effect for os couples.

Boycotts are in response to those who would use the law to deny equal recognition under the same laws they expect for themselves. Unlike those opposed to equality, we are not the ones trying to restrict equal treatment under the laws in effect.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#42212 Sep 23, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Supreme Court:
"Congress... cannot deny the liberty protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.
...the principal purpose and the necessary effect of this law are to demean those persons who are in a lawful same-sex marriage. This requires the Court to hold, as it now does, that DOMA is unconstitutional as a deprivation of the liberty of the person protected by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
The liberty protected by the Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause contains within it the prohibition against denying to any person the equal protection of the laws. While the Fifth Amendment itself withdraws from the Government the power to degrade or demean in the way this law does, the equal protection guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment makes that Fifth Amendment right all the more specific and all the better understood and preserved."
(Windsor)
Not equal to marriage.

In every aspect, ss couples will only ever be a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.

No manipulated law can make a fake, manufactured couple marriage.
Huh

Owatonna, MN

#42213 Sep 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Not equal to marriage.
In every aspect, ss couples will only ever be a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
No manipulated law can make a fake, manufactured couple marriage.
A same sex couple will be every bit as much of a couple as you and your wife.....SAME SAME.

Know two guys who have been together for 20 years have great business own many properties and are pillars of the community. They are great people. WHY DO YOU HATE THEM HAVING EQUALITY?
Kresimir

Irvine, CA

#42214 Sep 23, 2013
KiMare-

Of course "no fault" divorce should be legal. We live in a free society. Even if you refuse to grant divorce in an official capacity, two people who don't love each other will still act like it. What are you going to do, chain them together?

Having a child involved doesn't fix a broken relationship, it just complicates it. You might have a situation where the two parents compete for the child's loyalty and love, or where the child becomes a focal point for the enmity between the adults. In another scenario, the child might be viewed as simply an inconvenience that prevents divorce. A loveless marriage is almost always worse for everyone involved than no marriage.

And as for kids growing up in loving, capable foster homes or adopted households (same-sex or otherwise), do you think they care that their parental figures aren't biologically related to them? They might have some abstract ideal of a biological mother/father preached to them by conservative-minded folks, but in the end these ideals will probably be more emotionally damaging than anything else, because it just doesn't apply to the reality.
Kresimir

Irvine, CA

#42215 Sep 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Not equal to marriage.
In every aspect, ss couples will only ever be a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of marriage.
No manipulated law can make a fake, manufactured couple marriage.
Oh dear...

Perception IS reality. If the two partners perceive it as a real marriage, if their adopted children perceive it as a real marriage, if the law recognizes it as a real marriage, and the community around them perceives it as a real marriage, then for all intents and purposes, it IS a real marriage.

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