Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

[KiMare]

mahz wrote:

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Which God? There have literally been hundreds since the beginning of mankind. Every one of them thought the God's they were worshiping were real too. So which one? Shiva? Osiris? Zeus? Ra? Odin? Christ? Allah? Jehovah? Baal? Khrisna? Ahriman? El? Ahru Mazda?

Belief systems are far more than just religious.

The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?

For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."

Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.

:-)

[KiMare]

mahz wrote:

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So the other 80% of the world who is not Christian are all going to burn in hell? Your God is mighty cruel.

How does the Bible answer that question?

Do you even know the answer?

:-)

[mahz]

KiMare wrote:

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Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)

You're a pretty egocentric prick to think that my beliefs only exist as a denial of yours.

[mahz]

KiMare wrote:

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How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)

I am asking not smoker to explain his faith to me so that I can get a better understanding. I'm not trying to explain it to him. Once again, you daftly miss the point.

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
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Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)

mahz wrote:

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You're a pretty egocentric prick to think that my beliefs only exist as a denial of yours.

Where did I say that?

Are you confusing me with reality?

Smirk.

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
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How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)

mahz wrote:

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I am asking not smoker to explain his faith to me so that I can get a better understanding. I'm not trying to explain it to him. Once again, you daftly miss the point.

So you admit you don't know the answer to a belief system you are mocking.

Got more than sex 'backwards', don't you think?

Smirk.

[likud]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:
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Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
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Where did I say that?
Are you confusing me with reality?
Smirk.

You have accused me of denial in every post, troll.

You have no material left and are now going to resort to your trusty old fallback of childish games. You put on a good front of intelligence for about three or four posts, but after that you run dry on material and start showing how limited you truly are. It has been happening daily on this thread. You're not too bright.

[likud]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:
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How does the Bible answer that question?
Do you even know the answer?
:-)
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So you admit you don't know the answer to a belief system you are mocking.
Got more than sex 'backwards', don't you think?
Smirk.

Actually no, the point of my question was to understand more about non smokers religion. Since I'm in an understanding mood and he's not present why don't you tell me what you think the bible says says. So I can get a better picture of what Christianity truly means to you, friend.

SMIRK

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
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Belief systems are far more than just religious.
The real question is, how does a belief system explain and deal with the problem of evil?
For instance, why did a broken mind kill 26 innocent people? Why not just himself? What screams like the CT mayor said, "Evil visited our community today."
Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example, but no less poignant.
:-)
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Where did I say that?
Are you confusing me with reality?
Smirk.

likud wrote:

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You have accused me of denial in every post, troll.
You have no material left and are now going to resort to your trusty old fallback of childish games. You put on a good front of intelligence for about three or four posts, but after that you run dry on material and start showing how limited you truly are. It has been happening daily on this thread. You're not too bright.

I simply asked you to point out where I said what you accused me of.

If you lied, simply say so. That would disprove my assertions of your character and set you on a legitimate course.

This is just an ad homoan attack attempting to divert attention from another one of your lies and distortions.

Simple facts.

Smile.

[KiMare]

KiMare wrote:
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Not quite...
No greater force for good exists still.
Just a simple fact.
Smile.
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Without wasting time distinguishing the distortions of your 'list', of course there are examples of those who violate Christian beliefs in the name of Christianity.
The same is true of any belief system. Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil. Wolves in sheep clothing.
A honest handful of legitimate violations is hardly a reason to dismiss the astounding expression of concern and care that goes on every single day in every single community across this country.
Your silly attempt to do so only exposes your brokenness and denial. A blatant attempt to destroy anything in the way of your denial, no matter what the price.
:-)

mahz wrote:

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In your own words, "Human brokenness always has taken advantage of good to disguise evil."
A more apt description of the Christian religion could not be found.
Those aren't just examples, they are a pattern of behavior that the Christian faith has demonstrated throughout it's history. Christianity was spread across this planet at the point of sword or a gun and you're ignorant of history if you think otherwise.
Standing in the way of my denial? BWAHAHAHA. I'm not denying anything, I'm demanding proof. You see, that's how rational thinking works. You claim there is this magic man in the sky who is all powerful and created everything, yet somehow, even though he is an all powerful and loving God, child leukemia is part of his master plan. I need just a little proof and some rational explanation of why he kills millions ever year with acts of God.
Sorry, but saying "this English translation of a Greek translation of an original Hebrew translation of an Iron age allegorical tale is defacto proof that Moses understood the finer points of radioactive decay" is slightly unbalanced.
You're the one in denial here, bub. Denial about the fact you don't know whether God exists. You have no proof, you only believe it in your heart to be true, with no proof.

Where in the world yesterday did a Christian kill 26 innocent women and children like an atheist did?

Where in the world yesterday did Christians rape women and girls, and deliberately bomb innocent people like Muslims did in numerous countries yesterday.

Where in the world yesterday did a 'Christian' government beat, enslave, starve and horribly abuse millions like North Korea did yesterday.

Yesterday in all of those cases, millions of Christians sacrificed, gave, prayed and served those very situations.

Just simple reality.

You have a clear pattern of ignorant bigotry.

:-)

[non smoker]

mahz wrote:

How can the son of God, be the one and only true God?

That's two God's. The father and the son. How can he be the one and only?

Jesus never claimed to be the one true God. It is a distortion of his message. He wasn't saying he was a God at all. He said God was his father. He was God's son and you are all children of God exactly like him and could have the same personal relationship. Jesus wasn't God nor did he ever claim to be.

It's called the trinity. The father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins so we can be forgiven of our sins. If you believe in him, you can have salvation and eternal life In Heaven! Amen!

[Just Think]

non smoker wrote:

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It's called the trinity. The father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. God sent his son Jesus to die for our sins so we can be forgiven of our sins. If you believe in him, you can have salvation and eternal life In Heaven! Amen!

And if you don't, you burn in a lake of fire for longer than a million times a billion times a trillion years.

Nice god you have there...

[Marengo Jon]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:
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That's your defense?
Maybe this is beyond your 'pay grade'...
Just a heads up, you don't know my faith. I am a redeemed cynic who remains barbarian.
The barbarian makes me a jack 'ass' sometimes, but the cynic inoculates me from 'dumb'.
Smirk.

Thats' YOUR defense? The fact that you're a deformed cynical barbarian hardly qualifies you to sh1t on others.

[Marengo Jon]

likud wrote:

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You have accused me of denial in every post, troll.
You have no material left and are now going to resort to your trusty old fallback of childish games. You put on a good front of intelligence for about three or four posts, but after that you run dry on material and start showing how limited you truly are. It has been happening daily on this thread. You're not too bright.

That's Kuntmares MO on every thread zhe trolls.

[really]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:
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Where in the world yesterday did a Christian kill 26 innocent women and children like an atheist did?
Yesterday in all of those cases, millions of Christians sacrificed, gave, prayed and served those very situations.
Just simple reality.
You have a clear pattern of ignorant bigotry.
:-)

How do you know he was an athiest, I have seen no such thing reported?

Are you trying to say Christians do not commit horrible crimes? You have to know that is not true!

Yep the good Christians were on topix yesterday harrassing and threatening the gay people, instead of on their knees praying for all those innocent little angels.

You are disgusting!

[Marengo Jon]

KiMare wrote:

KiMare wrote:
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Your denial of sexual brokenness is a much smaller example...

Says the deformed cynical barbarian with the completely non-functional (a.k.a. broken) vagaina (a.k.a. mangina).

[KiMare]

mahz wrote:

How can the son of God, be the one and only true God?
That's two God's. The father and the son. How can he be the one and only?
Jesus never claimed to be the one true God. It is a distortion of his message. He wasn't saying he was a God at all. He said God was his father. He was God's son and you are all children of God exactly like him and could have the same personal relationship. Jesus wasn't God nor did he ever claim to be.

The only response I can think of is the old saying,

'The idiot leading the blind'.

Don't quit your day job to be a theologian...

Smirk.

[KiMare]

likud wrote:

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Actually no, the point of my question was to understand more about non smokers religion. Since I'm in an understanding mood and he's not present why don't you tell me what you think the bible says says. So I can get a better picture of what Christianity truly means to you, friend.
SMIRK

I have said I don't discuss faith with faithless people.

What is the point? So you can mock and desecrate things you cannot and don't want to understand? You can't even get straight what a sphincter muscle is for!

:-)

[surferdude]

The liberals have already trashed the world's morals so let 'er buck. Queers are twisted freaks and calling them gays and lesbians and letting them get married won't change that. It'll just let them become a further drag on our tax dollar, which is their real goal.

[surferdude]

I can't think of any worse punishment for gays and lesbians than marriage.:)
Being in a straight marriage is cruel enough - I thinkin' that a gay marriage could be defined as cruel and unusual.:)