United States Of SWAT

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Neighbor

Reddick, IL

#1 Apr 19, 2014
Interesting article (for those who want to be aware):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/...

Explains how all this received funding, and the impact to us. So, are you sure you want your tax dollars spent this way?
Bob Thomas

Lockport, IL

#2 Apr 19, 2014
What do you expect. A decade of military worship breeds this type of funding. Keep waving that flag and singing God Bless America while your basic freedoms disappear. I love it when the rightwingers feel the heat of the government they saluted under the guise of 911. Welcome to the Libertarian wing. In your case it will end when a white Republican gets in power. You will then go back to being a sheep.
Unincorporated

New Lenox, IL

#3 Apr 19, 2014
Bob Thomas wrote:
What do you expect. A decade of military worship breeds this type of funding. Keep waving that flag and singing God Bless America while your basic freedoms disappear. I love it when the rightwingers feel the heat of the government they saluted under the guise of 911. Welcome to the Libertarian wing. In your case it will end when a white Republican gets in power. You will then go back to being a sheep.
Don't act as if you are immune to the effects of this garbage because of your political beliefs. They may come for you last, but come they will.
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#4 Apr 19, 2014
Neighbor wrote:
Interesting article (for those who want to be aware):
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/...
Explains how all this received funding, and the impact to us. So, are you sure you want your tax dollars spent this way?
cool
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f52ezPyEVEM/UWDDF92...
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#5 Apr 19, 2014
Neighbor wrote:
Interesting article (for those who want to be aware):
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/...
Explains how all this received funding, and the impact to us. So, are you sure you want your tax dollars spent this way?


This is the army Obama has dreamed about. Only its purpose is to control the citizens. Look at all the fools clapping? I don't get it?
Neighbor

Mokena, IL

#6 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Tt2yGzHfy7sXX
This is the army Obama has dreamed about. Only its purpose is to control the citizens. Look at all the fools clapping? I don't get it?
Yes, sadly these fools cheer. You should also understand, the "civilian" force (DHS) does not have to go through Congress for approval of anything. Like the EPA & IRS they now make up rules that they themselves can enforce as Law. So, this is the greatest threat to our Constitutional rights & protections, and our freedoms my friends. Deny it, hide from it, but realize it is in deed "actuality".

All a nut like Obama has to do is allow a National Emergency to arise, and then declare Marshal Law. His DHS Brown Shirts armed to the hilt then own you, your local militarized Police Force falls in place like good puppies too. What will you do then? No warrants necessary, no Miranda necessary, and it is done.

Oh yea, that Oath Keeper group a lot of you are making fun of? Yea, it's they who will be there to stand in front of you, shielding you from DHS .....think about that before you poke fun or name call or taunt these proud veterans.
Hold on

United States

#7 Apr 21, 2014
Neighbor wrote:
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Yes, sadly these fools cheer. You should also understand, the "civilian" force (DHS) does not have to go through Congress for approval of anything. Like the EPA & IRS they now make up rules that they themselves can enforce as Law. So, this is the greatest threat to our Constitutional rights & protections, and our freedoms my friends. Deny it, hide from it, but realize it is in deed "actuality".
All a nut like Obama has to do is allow a National Emergency to arise, and then declare Marshal Law. His DHS Brown Shirts armed to the hilt then own you, your local militarized Police Force falls in place like good puppies too. What will you do then? No warrants necessary, no Miranda necessary, and it is done.
Oh yea, that Oath Keeper group a lot of you are making fun of? Yea, it's they who will be there to stand in front of you, shielding you from DHS .....think about that before you poke fun or name call or taunt these proud veterans.
Good grief you truly are delusional. Oath keepers is admitting it needs people on the ground at one small incident ongoing. And now you want to tell us in the event of Marshall law all across the country this group will be there to stop law enforcement and protect us all. Neighbor you live in a fantasy. Oath keepers has what about 10000 members of which maybe if you were lucky ten percent would take action. Ya okay I believe you. You wonder why you are widely ridiculed out here. Read your own posts they hold the answers.
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#8 Apr 21, 2014
Pride goeth before the fall. As a civilian working for the USN I met many wonderful service members and quite a few jerkoffs.
This whole Bundy affair is nonsense, all of Nevada, the Cattlemen, everybody out there knows this guy is a clown, has 3 courtorders against him, he's a corporate welfare queen.
the oath keepers are collectively stupid and vain to choose this loser to make their battle.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/04/12/1291...

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/...
All we've seen is massive ego tripping (pride) from bundy and the OKs.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch...

the oath keepers have pissed away whatever legitimacy they sought.
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#9 Apr 21, 2014
Hold on wrote:
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Good grief you truly are delusional. Oath keepers is admitting it needs people on the ground at one small incident ongoing. And now you want to tell us in the event of Marshall law all across the country this group will be there to stop law enforcement and protect us all. Neighbor you live in a fantasy. Oath keepers has what about 10000 members of which maybe if you were lucky ten percent would take action. Ya okay I believe you. You wonder why you are widely ridiculed out here. Read your own posts they hold the answers.
Why would you insult an organization that is 100% pro American? They are fighting for Americans, against government tyranny in our lives by this oppressive Obama administration. Are you that blind or just ignorant?
Neighbor

Aurora, IL

#10 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot... He's stuck on stupid. Always has been. Just pat him on the head.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#11 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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Why would you insult an organization that is 100% pro American? They are fighting for Americans, against government tyranny in our lives by this oppressive Obama administration. Are you that blind or just ignorant?
Many who agree with their premise also question their extremism and paranoia.

IMO, you are blind and ignorant if you follow without question no matter what side you are on.
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#12 Apr 21, 2014
Appalled wrote:
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Many who agree with their premise also question their extremism and paranoia.
IMO, you are blind and ignorant if you follow without question no matter what side you are on.
The government showed up with guns and military force to collect a debt. That is extremism to me. Tyranny to be more precise. Americans and organizations who reject this force from government are hero's, patriots, not extreme or paranoid. It actually happened. Do you know that? I can't believe your response if your actually paying attention to what has transpired in this case.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#13 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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The government showed up with guns and military force to collect a debt. That is extremism to me. Tyranny to be more precise. Americans and organizations who reject this force from government are hero's, patriots, not extreme or paranoid. It actually happened. Do you know that? I can't believe your response if your actually paying attention to what has transpired in this case.
I have mixed feelings. The government used a heavy hand. Not sure why they did not just arrest him for violating the decision of the courts. Or just seize his assets as they would mine if I did not pay my debts. There had to be alternative solutions.

Having said that.........I am very familiar with the public lands in question. I have vacationed one or two times a year for the last eight years in Nevada. One of my favorite things to do when I am there is to head out to this area in a Mustang convertible, car top down, and enjoy! I have to pay to enter this area. Everyone does. Why does this guy think he shouldn't?

There is a tricky balance between recreation, environmentalists, industrialists and ranchers when utilizing public lands, especially out west. The trade off for Bundy's low land rent is that he has to share it......even with the tortoises.

Hundreds of other ranchers pay the fee to graze the lands. Bundy has had his day in court and exhausted all his appeals. Just as the rest of us have to accept court rulings, so should he. Just as the government should have looked for alternate solutions, so should Bundy. Breaking the law usually doesn't end well.

See, mixed feelings. Considering my position on non-enforcement of immigration laws though, it would follow that Bundy needs to follow the law and the decisions of the law, too.

IMO, Oath Keepers picked a weak case to take a stand. They only added to the zealous extremism on both sides.
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#14 Apr 22, 2014
Appalled wrote:
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I have mixed feelings. The government used a heavy hand. Not sure why they did not just arrest him for violating the decision of the courts. Or just seize his assets as they would mine if I did not pay my debts. There had to be alternative solutions.
Having said that.........I am very familiar with the public lands in question. I have vacationed one or two times a year for the last eight years in Nevada. One of my favorite things to do when I am there is to head out to this area in a Mustang convertible, car top down, and enjoy! I have to pay to enter this area. Everyone does. Why does this guy think he shouldn't?
There is a tricky balance between recreation, environmentalists, industrialists and ranchers when utilizing public lands, especially out west. The trade off for Bundy's low land rent is that he has to share it......even with the tortoises.
Hundreds of other ranchers pay the fee to graze the lands. Bundy has had his day in court and exhausted all his appeals. Just as the rest of us have to accept court rulings, so should he. Just as the government should have looked for alternate solutions, so should Bundy. Breaking the law usually doesn't end well.
See, mixed feelings. Considering my position on non-enforcement of immigration laws though, it would follow that Bundy needs to follow the law and the decisions of the law, too.
IMO, Oath Keepers picked a weak case to take a stand. They only added to the zealous extremism on both sides.
You wouldn't have mixed feelings if the government swat team showed up at your house to collect a bill by gunpoint with snipers aiming at your family and children.

We never tolerate government by gunpoint in this nation. Never have, never will. The people of Nevada and around this great nation are making that clear. Its a shame that you can't see it.
Neighbor

Mokena, IL

#15 Apr 22, 2014
Appalled, once again you inject an imaginative point of view as if it were fact.

If you read the posts, or went to Oath Keeper dot org and read the intention of their presence, you would be informed.

Oath Keepers stands in full support of the Constitution, and to prevent such episodes as WACO, the constitutional violated rights that took place in Katrina, etc... They announced they were going there not to take a side at all, but to stand between the crazed Feds & the Bundy Family "to prevent another Waco". They plan to remain there until the Bundy family feels safe from attack.

Yes, this is a strange one. Al Sharpton owes $1.8 M, and is a welcome guest at the WH. This then is not about tax or fee collection.... Who knows if Reid is behind it or not.

As far as Oath Keepers go, they intend to be Constitutional peace keepers there. That's who they are, that's what they do. The Feds have a history of over extending & violating WE The People's Constitutional rights as you know.

Clear? Fair enough?
Neighbor

Mokena, IL

#16 Apr 22, 2014
Ps: Yes, all agree that Bundy is in violation of the law. But lets not let the crazed Feds attack citizens with dogs, snipers, steal their cattle, land, in violation of their Constitutional rights. So if you were going to jump on that.... everyone knows that.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#17 Apr 22, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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You wouldn't have mixed feelings if the government swat team showed up at your house to collect a bill by gunpoint with snipers aiming at your family and children.
We never tolerate government by gunpoint in this nation. Never have, never will. The people of Nevada and around this great nation are making that clear. Its a shame that you can't see it.
Wouldn't happen. I pay my bills and I am much more diplomatic when problems arise. I also believe in our court system. It's not perfect but it beats hardheaded showdowns.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#18 Apr 22, 2014
Neighbor wrote:
Appalled, once again you inject an imaginative point of view as if it were fact.
If you read the posts, or went to Oath Keeper dot org and read the intention of their presence, you would be informed.
Oath Keepers stands in full support of the Constitution, and to prevent such episodes as WACO, the constitutional violated rights that took place in Katrina, etc... They announced they were going there not to take a side at all, but to stand between the crazed Feds & the Bundy Family "to prevent another Waco". They plan to remain there until the Bundy family feels safe from attack.
Yes, this is a strange one. Al Sharpton owes $1.8 M, and is a welcome guest at the WH. This then is not about tax or fee collection.... Who knows if Reid is behind it or not.
As far as Oath Keepers go, they intend to be Constitutional peace keepers there. That's who they are, that's what they do. The Feds have a history of over extending & violating WE The People's Constitutional rights as you know.
Clear? Fair enough?
What part of my comment was imagined? The parts you don't agree with?

Yep, sure sounds like you didn't pick sides between the "CRAZED" Feds and the Bundy "FAMILY".
Neighbor

Mokena, IL

#19 Apr 22, 2014
Yup... Tell me what number I am thinking of?

See what I mean about you? You take no time to "think" about the posters intention or context. You assume, run with it, and argue you're right. WTF's up with that thinking?

Were the Feds crazed here or not? Did you see the taunting videos? Did you see the arms, no-fly zone, snipers, helicopters? Nothing crazed there to you huh?

Well, to those of us who think "Constitutional rights", those behaviors were crazed my Dear. Dangerously crazed. And maybe, just maybe, the Oath Keeper presence helped transition to and keep peace. Good people did not standby & do nothing this time.
Hold on

Tulsa, OK

#20 Apr 22, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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You wouldn't have mixed feelings if the government swat team showed up at your house to collect a bill by gunpoint with snipers aiming at your family and children.
We never tolerate government by gunpoint in this nation. Never have, never will. The people of Nevada and around this great nation are making that clear. Its a shame that you can't see it.
Really. The man is in violation of several court orders. That in and of itself can be an arrestable offense. Then he let it be known that he would resist with force if neccessary. How should they show up. Now there has been armed assault on law enforcement and resisting. All arrestable offenses. You need to pull your head out of your ass. Many people in this country are arrested daily for violation of a court order. Many of those at gunpoint when needed. Government by gunpoint. Yes it's tolerated everyday and needed. Wake up Bendy is in violation of the law. He needs to accept that and end this At this point oath keepers is aiding a known criminal in violation of the law. Great work

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