D122 Member Kathy Miller Kicked Off A...

D122 Member Kathy Miller Kicked Off April Election Ballot

There are 253 comments on the Patch.com story from Jan 11, 2013, titled D122 Member Kathy Miller Kicked Off April Election Ballot. In it, Patch.com reports that:

The nomination petition filed by New Lenox School District 122 Board Member Kathy Miller was found to be invalid at a special hearing Friday.

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Appalled

Joliet, IL

#189 Jan 19, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Appalled: Also, there is a huge difference when it's election paperwork. There are state rules & reglations that must be followed to the T. Someone contested the petition (rightfully so, there was a violation) and the Elction Board makes the call. Yep, it was a bad page, so that page is eliminated (that's the rule). If Kathy collected just one more page of signatures (just 15) SHE WOULD STILL BE GOOD. If you want something bad enough, you eliminate risks, "especially" with political paperwork. This one page was different than the others, it should have been an EZ catch. Kathy really has no one to blame but herself, she could have acquired more signatures and/or done a better job checking her minimum number submitted.
There whiners out here? They are the ones paying politics trying to blame everyone but Kathy. Kathy should step up and admit it's all her fault, then pursue the apeal process and throw herself at their mercy. My point? It's a bad petition page.
I definitely see your point and agree if, in truth, these laws are set in stone. My question is: If this is the law, why, as pointed out by several people, have previous clerical error disqualifications been overturned in appeal? Exactly, what is the law?

I do agree that Miller should have garnered more signatures, no matter what. It is common practice to have illegal signatures thrown out on electoral petitions.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#191 Jan 19, 2013
Enough Is Enough wrote:
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Appalled, I thought you were a retired teacher?
Nope. I have tried to correct this misconception on several occasions.

I think some people have assumed this because I have defended teachers and the job they do. People prefer to think that if you defend teachers, you must benefit in some way yourself. Not true in my case.

I am retired from advertising and marketing which is what I did after I retired from raising my kids! I now work part-time for a school where I get to help little kids who are struggling to learn to read. This has enabled me to see the profession from another perspective. I do not make a huge salary. I will not get a teacher's pension. My opinion is based on what I see with my own eyes without any benefit to myself. I have learned that it really is not the cake walk that the naysayers think it is. It is not what I thought it was before I took this job.

I often tell people that everyone should work at least a month in a classroom. There is just no way that your opinion would not be altered in some way.
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#192 Jan 20, 2013
However, I bet there are many many other jobs that if worked for a month, would change opinions too. Besides 7 hour days, is there actually a month that teachers don't get a day off?(Have to ask that) <Just say'n Also, what other jobs are there where your poor results still qualifies you for a raise? <grin (yep, I am stirring the pot huh?) Recall a couple of weeks ago, there was someone out here challenging folks to work fast food at Portillos to see how "hard" that was too.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#193 Jan 20, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
However, I bet there are many many other jobs that if worked for a month, would change opinions too. Besides 7 hour days, is there actually a month that teachers don't get a day off?(Have to ask that) <Just say'n Also, what other jobs are there where your poor results still qualifies you for a raise? <grin (yep, I am stirring the pot huh?) Recall a couple of weeks ago, there was someone out here challenging folks to work fast food at Portillos to see how "hard" that was too.
The only opinion you have is the one that evolves from the shoes YOU walk in. You have proven time and again that you do not have the ability to see the world through the eyes of others.
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#194 Jan 20, 2013
Not really, but that's the point I made above. Lots of people "thing" try my job for a month to understand. Everyone thinks their job is harder than others, more involved than others. You've pointed out your hubby's job several times out here as one example I can give you too. How about we make teachers try his job for a month?

I think you missed the point I made in that post.(Trust me, as a management consultant, I have to view things through the eyes of others, or I can't solve their problems, and if I don't solve their problems, I don't get re-hired. <not a good thing. Your accusation about me could not be further off. <Just say'n)
Crest Hill

Wheaton, IL

#195 Jan 20, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Appalled: Also, there is a huge difference when it's election paperwork. There are state rules & reglations that must be followed to the T. Someone contested the petition (rightfully so, there was a violation) and the Elction Board makes the call. Yep, it was a bad page, so that page is eliminated (that's the rule). If Kathy collected just one more page of signatures (just 15) SHE WOULD STILL BE GOOD. If you want something bad enough, you eliminate risks, "especially" with political paperwork. This one page was different than the others, it should have been an EZ catch. Kathy really has no one to blame but herself, she could have acquired more signatures and/or done a better job checking her minimum number submitted.
There whiners out here? They are the ones paying politics trying to blame everyone but Kathy. Kathy should step up and admit it's all her fault, then pursue the apeal process and throw herself at their mercy. My point? It's a bad petition page.
I agree with Mr."Neighbor" 100 %. The Election Board in New Lenox made the right call and correctly removed this person from the ballot. Here in Crest Hill, we have two candidates that made errors on their petitions, one didn't even get the petition notarized, so their friend the City Clerk ( also up for election )
calls them up and tells them they made errors on their petition and tells them to fill out new ones. Long story short, it was objected
to, the election board voted 2 to 1 in favor to keep them on the ballot. The two votes to keep her on the ballot came from yep, the City Clerk and the City Clerks father who is an alderman on the election board. Politics at it's finest !! What a shame !!!
Neighbor

Wheaton, IL

#196 Jan 20, 2013
Mr. Neighbor? I kind'a like that. <grin
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#197 Jan 20, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Not really, but that's the point I made above. Lots of people "thing" try my job for a month to understand. Everyone thinks their job is harder than others, more involved than others. You've pointed out your hubby's job several times out here as one example I can give you too. How about we make teachers try his job for a month?
I think you missed the point I made in that post.(Trust me, as a management consultant, I have to view things through the eyes of others, or I can't solve their problems, and if I don't solve their problems, I don't get re-hired. <not a good thing. Your accusation about me could not be further off. <Just say'n)
You have a gift for missing the point and turning the discussion in another direction. I said nothing about one job being harder than another. I said you lack understanding of other people's plight. You only recognize your own needs. I stand by what I said.
Kidsinschool

Frankfort, IL

#198 Jan 20, 2013
OMG I was just watching a New Lenox school board meeting on Channel 6-are you kidding me? They are acting like bickering, jealous and nasty children-oh wait that is a compliment !!!! I say get rid of all of them and get people who remember why they are there -not for themselves but for the children!!!!! So EMBARRASSING !!!
tired of it

Des Plaines, IL

#199 Jan 21, 2013
Kidsinschool wrote:
OMG I was just watching a New Lenox school board meeting on Channel 6-are you kidding me? They are acting like bickering, jealous and nasty children-oh wait that is a compliment !!!! I say get rid of all of them and get people who remember why they are there -not for themselves but for the children!!!!! So EMBARRASSING !!!
I cannot find the schedule on line of the showing of the meeting on channel 6 - does anyone know the schedule?
Irish1

New Lenox, IL

#200 Jan 21, 2013
tired of it wrote:
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I cannot find the schedule on line of the showing of the meeting on channel 6 - does anyone know the schedule?
It was on this morning at 9 am.....can't remember the next time it shows. Look at Ch. 6 after a program and they list the upcoming times for programs.! Sorry I couldn't give exact time...
Irish1

New Lenox, IL

#201 Jan 21, 2013
tired of it wrote:
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I cannot find the schedule on line of the showing of the meeting on channel 6 - does anyone know the schedule?
For January, the Dist. 122 meeting is on at 9 am and again at 9:30 pm......
tired of it

Gridley, IL

#202 Jan 28, 2013
When a School Board member goes off the Board do they have to return the Ipad given to them?
tired of it

United States

#203 Jan 28, 2013
It is on the Patch that Miller won appeal & is back on ballot. Now people need to vote in April and not vote Broderick's partner in crime Smith back in. She will have no one on her side.
Neighbor

Northbrook, IL

#204 Jan 28, 2013
Factually, it was 1 bad petition. How can they claim it is a good petition? Talk about dirty politics.... Kathy needs to hold her head down in shame.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#206 Jan 28, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Factually, it was 1 bad petition. How can they claim it is a good petition? Talk about dirty politics.... Kathy needs to hold her head down in shame.
I have never heard of an appeals board giving someone permission to break the law. They usually clarify an interpretation of the law. I believe that a few people have been saying from the get go that there was a precedence for this issue.

If you were the "outsider" you claim to be, you would recognize the dirty politics on both sides of this table. There is more than enough shame to go around.
Neighbor

Northbrook, IL

#207 Jan 28, 2013
Oh I hear you Appalled. Poliics is dirty business. Still, as I understand it was the petition that was faulty, and therefore Kathy did not have enough signatures. That's the only clear fact I found in all the talk. The rest was politics right? So, how does Kathy look our kids in the eye and speak to right & wrong with integrety after this? Simply can't do it. Kinda like Mayor Tim. He can't talk to kids about right & wrong with integrety either. These are the people we put in front of our children as leaders? They who now cheer this should be shamed too. INO
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#208 Jan 28, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Oh I hear you Appalled. Poliics is dirty business. Still, as I understand it was the petition that was faulty, and therefore Kathy did not have enough signatures. That's the only clear fact I found in all the talk. The rest was politics right? So, how does Kathy look our kids in the eye and speak to right & wrong with integrety after this? Simply can't do it. Kinda like Mayor Tim. He can't talk to kids about right & wrong with integrety either. These are the people we put in front of our children as leaders? They who now cheer this should be shamed too. INO
As I understand it, Broderick's actions were not dripping with integrity either. Damn shame when your best hope falls to the dark side.
hold on

Naperville, IL

#209 Jan 28, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
Oh I hear you Appalled. Poliics is dirty business. Still, as I understand it was the petition that was faulty, and therefore Kathy did not have enough signatures. That's the only clear fact I found in all the talk. The rest was politics right? So, how does Kathy look our kids in the eye and speak to right & wrong with integrety after this? Simply can't do it. Kinda like Mayor Tim. He can't talk to kids about right & wrong with integrety either. These are the people we put in front of our children as leaders? They who now cheer this should be shamed too. INO
And if what is being said about Broderick is true, that she reviewed the petitions and filled out the objection. Then had a friend sign the objection so that she could remain on the board which hears the case. You find that ethical? If that is in fact true thats not politics. If she just did not want her name on it, okay people do that all the time. But once she stayed on the board to hear the case, no way. That is why judges remove themselves from cases to eliminate that type of bias. Again "if" its all true about what Broderick did. Everyone involved in this fiasco should be ashamed. Kathy Miller for not giving enough time or concern to make sure her petitions were correct down to the T. And Broderick for not removing herself from a postion of judgement. I have to question her integrity as is. If your legal counsel advises you not to go forward due to past case precedence on such matters and you do so. Right there is a huge red flag for me.
Neighbor

Northbrook, IL

#210 Jan 29, 2013
How unusual for political games to have been played. I am shocked.

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