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#1 Mar 27, 2010
I just listened to a discussion on a few of the hidden impacts of the Health Bill. You may have heard that it will cost the bottom line of Caterpillar $100M, AT&T $1B and on and on….

In the discussion a Obama staff member defended this impact by stating,“Big business had two tax breaks and now they have one…”(I thought…hmmm interesting) But then he added a comment that caused me to stop… He added,“Boo Hoo”. While this genuinely reflects the attitude of Obama/Pelosi/Reid…it causes me anguish. Think about this as opposed to the shiney objects inside the bill they want to focus on.

Reality is that these big businesses did not put these dollars in a closet nor fill a room with gold. They use these dollars to build business, invest in new products and the result is increased and retained jobs. The impact from the bill will cause these big companies to stop, cut back on plans and as I hear in many cases cut jobs.(I hope they do not elect to go off-shore to another country and avoid this impact?) But the message I got from the Obama defender was “Boo Woo”. Can’t they see beyond their nose?

In reality, every intelligent person could see that there is a price to America for this impact and the price will be growth and jobs.

Then I saw the Obama speech on celebrating the bill. As part of this, he stated,“….and the GOP is suggesting they want to repeal the bill…. I say GO FOR IT!”. A cute remark but very un-presidential to say... don’t you think? This should not be political debate but a what’s best for America as a whole debate.

This bill as so written behind closed doors, with it’s bribes, lies and fraud, was simply the wrong way to go. It simply must be recalled and revised….

I see America being controlled by a pure socialist/Marxist agenda…. This democratic team is set on controlling it all and imposing damage while they tantalize the few with shiney objects like pre-existing conditions. Who would argue that?

My message to Obama is this….”No worries mate…you can count on us GOING FOR IT!” America will take charge as every Patriot is standing and willing to fight to the death if necessary to make it so. My friends… I can see the cloud of dust just over the hill, I can hear the hoofs of their charging horses smashing across the land…I can see the American flag waving like never before…when I listen closely I hear the bugle sounding CHARGE…. The Patriots are coming…The Patriots are coming… and in November when they reach the crest of that hill…their swords and lances will be drawn and pointing downward at every Marxist democrat supporting Obama’s plan. Fear not…the Patriots are on their way… Listen and you will begin to hear the bugle too….

Stand up my friends…identify your November candidates…call them today…ask what you can do to support them. Contact your local Tea-Party, attend a meeting, volunteer. Contact the New Lenox Republican group…attend a meeting…volunteer. When you see your republican Precinct Committeeman knocking on doors & passing out literature, invite them in, talk to them, offer to help. You see…it makes no difference if you were a democrat, independent, republican or Tea-Party… We The Americans are now joining hands to end the slide to Marxism and destruction of our economic growth. I was once a Democrat…. I was always an American and will always be an American first. To quote Ronald Regan… I did not leave the Democratic Party…it left me. For me, the Republican Party aligns with American values today, for you it could too, or the Tea Party….but at all costs, we must push all those Democrats who support Obama’s Marxist plan out of office.
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#2 Mar 27, 2010
Very well put. But what are you going to do if they put a gun in your face and say "Obey!"? That's when we will see who stands and delivers, and who runs. I plan to stand. Screw this guy and his bunch of thugs. He grew up in Indonesia for Pete's sake. What does he know about America?
Neighbor

United States

#3 Mar 27, 2010
I pray it does not come to that. But yes, I am extensively armed and well munitioned. Like I said... Patriots are willing to fight to the death for this country, American values and the future of all our children. Semper Fi
MissAmericanPie

United States

#4 Mar 27, 2010
That's right Mr. Neighbor. Arm yourself. And stockpile your ammo. Things are gonna get ugly. I'm gathering necessities,food water,gas, Cash.I saw this coming years ago.
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#5 Mar 27, 2010
Well we all agree on one thing. Ammo, food, water, firearms. So if this is so prevalent how are they going to "get" us? My guess is they won't be able to. We will need to band together and fight as one. Now, that's a true patriot!

Since: Feb 10

United States

#6 Mar 27, 2010
That's what we're doing. Side by side we will march to a new and dangerous journey to protect what we have. I'll watch your back, you got mine?
Round Up

Crystal Lake, IL

#7 Mar 28, 2010
What a joke this thread is. You four dorks couldn't protect your yards from dandelions let alone the U.S. Government and the best funded military in the world. Tough talk from a bunch of knuckleheads.
By all means let's put the Republicans back in charge. Remember 2000 through 2008 when they tanked the economy by starting a war and giving tax breaks to the super rich? The people of the United States of America put the Democrats in power because the Republicans f#@*ed everything up. Republicans love spending money just as much as Democrats. Just take a look at the deficits in Government spending under Reagan and Bush 1 as well as Bush 2. At least under Obama many Americans are going to get health care. What exactly was the Republican plan on Healthcare? Did they ever come up with one? If the Republicans want to get elected they need to tell us what their plan is. I look forward to Republicans being asked why they were against preventing private health insurance from denying Americans from coverage because of pre-existing conditions. It will be great watching them squirm when asked why they are blocking regulation on the financial sector.
Barak Obama is not a Marxist. He also did not take anyone's guns away. He even signed a law allowing citizens to carry guns in National Parks (some Marxist huh?) He is the elected President of the United States of America. You can change that by the vote. Calling for an armed revolution and stockpiling ammo is ridiculous and useless. There are better ways to invest your money. It's also absurd for the rest of you to think that good old "Neighbor" is going to give up his tax payer funded pension and healthcare to "watch your back."
You people are not patriots. Your a bunch of Republicans (except for "Unincorporated" who seems to think he pays everyone else's taxes) who put your party before your country and your fellow Americans. Your hissy-fits are duly noted.
Neighbor

United States

#8 Mar 28, 2010
Round Up....

Just as you do not know who I am, you act like a dolt on these issues. You are clearly one who does what he is told and is certainly looking at the shiney objects in the bill and as ordered, repeating the words "good bill". No one, let me repeat that so you get it, "no one" is against the pre-existing condition (shiney object) or a few other items (shiney objects) in the bill. Now stop, think for yourself and write that down. It is the controled take over by "one" party, the bribes, fraud, lies and secret meetings and threats used to pass the bill we are against for one, and the hidden agenda items built into the bill that a "majority" of Americans have anger over. While feable minded folks (like you) do as they are told and are handed the shiney objects in the bill and told to say "good bill", you have to understand that their are democrats, republicans, Tea-Party and Independent folks not buying this marxist plan & approach. Acusing us of being against (for example) pre-existing condition rules is like me acusing "you" of believing in corruption?

All I ask is that you open up your mind and as they say, the devil is in the detail right? In this case it is absolutely true!

As a side note...please recall what Obama said he would do in the campaign (transparency) and what he has actually done once he had your vote.

Here is hard evidence of my point:


It's your call... open up your mind to the facts...don't let the shiney objects steal your vote.... or not?
clint longwood

Wolcott, IN

#9 Mar 28, 2010
cegliberty wrote:
That's what we're doing. Side by side we will march to a new and dangerous journey to protect what we have. I'll watch your back, you got mine?
I got your back baby!!!I hate to see ya go, But I just love watchin ya walk away!!!

Since: Feb 10

United States

#10 Mar 28, 2010
clint longwood wrote:
<quoted text> I got your back baby!!!I hate to see ya go, But I just love watchin ya walk away!!!
You little devil you. Just be careful not to trip over your longwood.
Constitution

Joliet, IL

#11 Mar 28, 2010
I love all the people preaching that we should prepare for armed revolution, because we elected people who passed a law, following the rules of the constitution.

We are a Republic, not a democracy. We dont take votes on every issue the goes before the gov't. You can thank the expansion in civil rights on that fact.

Bush in his 8 years expanded the power of the oval office with his unflinching use of executive orders and disregard for the law. When Congress (the GOP one) did not try and stop him, they set precedent, which is the same as permission. Now we have Obama wielding all those powers. And now all of you are running around scared of those powers. Where were you 5 years ago, when the Liberals were complaining about just that thing.

The only reason the Dems got this much power in the first place is because the GOP tells us what we want, and then does what they want once in office. The party of fiscal responsibility gave tax cuts to the richest thereby losing the surplus and funding two wars on the Chinese credit card. The party of small Gov't gave us the largest expansion of the Federal Govt with Dept of Homeland Security. The party of the Individual gave us the Patriot Act. The party of National Defense compromised undercover CIA agents for political retribution.

Look at actions and not rhetoric.

At least the Dems said they would pass a Stimulus, and they did. The Dems said they would pass Health Care Reform, and they did. The Dems said they would pass Credit Card reform and they did.

But no the Dems, they are traitors to your beliefs, and you want to take arms against the Gov't and through out the constitution.

Go Tea Baggers!!!
Hmmm

United States

#12 Mar 28, 2010
Constitution...(You have to be Round Up's sister?)

At any rate, I appreciate your pashion. But...why do you feel the need to have to spin and take just pieces of various facts, reshape the puzzle and then write your scenario up? Do you honestly think we all do not know the facts..what "actually" did take place? <LMAO

Ok, let me assume you indeed are a marxist for a second here ok? Now, answer this one question please... Will you stand up & take celebratory credit for using threats, secret meetings, fraud, bribes and lies as the process used to pass this bill? Don't cry or run back to blame Bush, I want you to cowboy up and answer this question for us.

Else your credibility out here goes to zero.
Hmmm

United States

#13 Mar 28, 2010
Round Up wrote:
What a joke this thread is. You four dorks couldn't protect your yards from dandelions let alone the U.S. Government and the best funded military in the world. Tough talk from a bunch of knuckleheads.
What makes you so very certain the Military would be on Obama's side? You have not been reading a lot these past several months on this subject huh? Do a little research on a growing organization made up of Military & police across the country who are lining up to support the constitution per the oath they have all taken to this country.

I am telling you... the marxist government movement has no idea how close they are to crossing the danger from within line. How many states have filed suits against Obama's bill & process now? Hmmm?

Then again lemings like yourself were not told by Pelosi to look at anything but the shiney objects huh?
Unincoporated

Frankfort, IL

#14 Mar 28, 2010
Round Ups point was mine exactly. Who's going to say no to these guys when they come for your neighbor? Both parties are to blame for the financial mess that will bring us to our knees. WE have messed up, not they. My guns are there in case of anarchy or the government. And I did pay your taxes last year. My bill was 55% of my gross. That to me is a crime. What am I going to do? Nothing.
Hmmm

United States

#15 Mar 28, 2010
Interesting how the far left out here tag a response and run... <lol No facts, no debate... no honest discussion... <lol
Neighbor

United States

#16 Mar 28, 2010
(Found this...loved it!)

"Let me get this straight.
The new health care plan will be written by a committee whose Chairman says he doesn't understand it.

Passed by a Congress which hasn't read it.

Signed by a President who smokes.

Funded by a Treasury Secretary who did not pay his taxes.

Overseen by a Surgeon General who is ...obese.

And financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?"

Or as Danny Divito would say... "What's the worst that could happen?" <lol

(How much you want to bet that the left marxist nuts out here strike back with a "blame Bush" remark?)

Ohhhhhhhh sweet November can't come fast enough...
Unincoporated

Frankfort, IL

#17 Mar 28, 2010
What could possibly go wrong? My income is down about 85% since this clown took office. Tax base? There isn't one anymore. Funding? Dried up. LOL!!! And now they do Health care! Trillions, gone. LOL!!
Neighbor

United States

#18 Mar 28, 2010
Yep... I was listening to Bob Brinker on WLS just now... California's resulting tax rate with this bill is now 54%.

Good news? The left wing liberals there are paying their fair share.

Bad News? Watch out....they may decide to move out and come to New Lenox?
einstein

Wolcott, IN

#19 Mar 28, 2010
Neighbor wrote:
Yep... I was listening to Bob Brinker on WLS just now... California's resulting tax rate with this bill is now 54%.
Good news? The left wing liberals there are paying their fair share.
Bad News? Watch out....they may decide to move out and come to New Lenox?
well with the whole world now being global. We are all getting deeper in the mudd with no way out.We need to change the money system. It has run its course.Im sure a computer could figure out what to do. So far humans havent helped.
Unincoporated

Frankfort, IL

#20 Mar 28, 2010
You mean these pieces of paper I've been using are no good now? UH OH! What do we do now? This could happen. Roundup will probably discount this though as another Republican panic. All the parties are corrupt. Make no mistake.

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