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Looping Big Money around democracy's neck

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Behead the KOCH BROS

Lockport, IL

#1 Jul 19, 2014
The beauty of our country's present system of government is that anyone is perfectly free to buy a member of Congress. And isn't that what democracy is all about?

Take the Koch brothers. Of course, these multibillionaire industrialists prefer to buy everything in bulk, and they've spent millions of dollars to purchase controlling shares of a whole flock of Republican congress critters. In fact, they have spent so much on so many elections (from Congress all the way down to small-town school board races) that they've made themselves the poster boys of Big Money corruption. By huge margins, the public is demanding that Congress terminate the plutocratic infestation of our democratic system by Kochites.

How have the brothers responded? By buying another senator – this time a former-senator-turned-lobbyist s. Don Nickles, an Oklahoma Republican, became a powerhouse Washington lobbyist shortly after he left the Senate in 2005. His lobby shop pulls in some $8 million a year to run favor-seeking chores for the likes of AT&T, Exxon Mobil, FED EX, General Motors, and Walmart. Now, Nickles is pulling the Koch's plow, using his Capitol Hill contacts to try to defeat reforms that would shut-off the funnels of secret, unlimited amounts of corporate cash that the Koch network puts into our elections.

what we have here is a perfect example of Big Money looping full circle to strangle The People's right to be self-governing. The Koch boys write huge checks to candidates and front groups to elect lawmakers who serve their interests. Some of those lawmakers, like Nickles, later slide into lucrative lobbying slots, getting paid a bundle by Koch & Company to fend off democratic, anti-corruption reforms. Thus, the Kochs can keep making bulk purchases of lawmakers… and the circle is drawn ever-tighter around democracy's neck. To help pass a Constitutional amendment to ban this corrupt money, go to www.united4thepeople.org .
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#2 Jul 19, 2014
Jealousy is a horrible thing. It's tearing at the core of your failures. Your not entitled to someone else's wealth.

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Orca

New Lenox, IL

#3 Jul 20, 2014
The best part patriot is that this person hates corporations who lobby politicians but never say a word when unions have bought politicians for decades. Typical liberal loud mouth.

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#4 Jul 20, 2014
Behead the KOCH BROS wrote:
The beauty of our country's present system of government is that anyone is perfectly free to buy a member of Congress. And isn't that what democracy is all about?
Take the Koch brothers. Of course, these multibillionaire industrialists prefer to buy everything in bulk, and they've spent millions of dollars to purchase controlling shares of a whole flock of Republican congress critters. In fact, they have spent so much on so many elections (from Congress all the way down to small-town school board races) that they've made themselves the poster boys of Big Money corruption. By huge margins, the public is demanding that Congress terminate the plutocratic infestation of our democratic system by Kochites.
How have the brothers responded? By buying another senator – this time a former-senator-turned-lobbyist s. Don Nickles, an Oklahoma Republican, became a powerhouse Washington lobbyist shortly after he left the Senate in 2005. His lobby shop pulls in some $8 million a year to run favor-seeking chores for the likes of AT&T, Exxon Mobil, FED EX, General Motors, and Walmart. Now, Nickles is pulling the Koch's plow, using his Capitol Hill contacts to try to defeat reforms that would shut-off the funnels of secret, unlimited amounts of corporate cash that the Koch network puts into our elections.
what we have here is a perfect example of Big Money looping full circle to strangle The People's right to be self-governing. The Koch boys write huge checks to candidates and front groups to elect lawmakers who serve their interests. Some of those lawmakers, like Nickles, later slide into lucrative lobbying slots, getting paid a bundle by Koch & Company to fend off democratic, anti-corruption reforms. Thus, the Kochs can keep making bulk purchases of lawmakers… and the circle is drawn ever-tighter around democracy's neck. To help pass a Constitutional amendment to ban this corrupt money, go to www.united4thepeople.org .
Two words: George Soros
Ant Farmer

Mokena, IL

#5 Jul 20, 2014
Patriot wrote:
Jealousy is a horrible thing. It's tearing at the core of your failures. Your not entitled to someone else's wealth.
So you agree that it's ok for America to suck on the nipple of the wealthy? and bucking the system is jealously? you, madame, are an idiot.
Mike

Chicago, IL

#6 Jul 21, 2014
Orca wrote:
The best part patriot is that this person hates corporations who lobby politicians but never say a word when unions have bought politicians for decades. Typical liberal loud mouth.
The difference is that unions tend to represent a large number of people, while the corporate lobby only represents a small number of wealthy stock holders. And the Koch brothers only represent themselves. Unions bribing politicians gives some voice back to the middle/working class - who couldn't possibly compete with the bribes of the wealthy otherwise. You should be thankful that the unions bribe politicians too - it gives you a voice in congress (that is unless you are extremely wealthy).
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#7 Jul 21, 2014
Ant Farmer wrote:
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So you agree that it's ok for America to suck on the nipple of the wealthy? and bucking the system is jealously? you, madame, are an idiot.
You my friend are a useless unproductive leach on society. Create your own wealth is what Capitalism provides for you. Want socialism ? Move to Europe.
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Mokena, IL

#8 Jul 23, 2014
Patriot wrote:
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You my friend are a useless unproductive leach on society. Create your own wealth is what Capitalism provides for you. Want socialism ? Move to Europe.
We have socialism here. It's been here your whole life. Why haven't you moved?
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Mokena, IL

#9 Jul 23, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
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Two words: George Soros
Your response is very lazy. Do the work and explain yourself like the first poster on this thread did or don't bother posting.

Since: Dec 12

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#10 Jul 23, 2014
Leave already wrote:
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Your response is very lazy. Do the work and explain yourself like the first poster on this thread did or don't bother posting.
Lazy moi? Not by a long shot. I have on more than one occasion pointed out the hypocrisy of the left and the left's derangement syndrome with the Koch brothers in more than one thread. Since I am a registered user its very easy to find the threads where I have posted my musings about Mr.Soros. With all do respect it is you who is being lazy.
SO WHAT

Lockport, IL

#11 Jul 23, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
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Two words: George Soros
Yeah, so? George Soros is a Hungarian-born American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. He is the chairman of Soros Fund Management. So just because he's been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals, his opinion means nothing?

Again with the lack of tolerance EJCDad?

He sounds like quite the awesome dude from what I've read, EXTREMELY SMART too!!

Is it because he's a major threat, financially, to the republican/tea party? C'mon already! You guys have plenty funtobemental-ist billionaire financial contributors. Give it a rest.
Patriot

Frankfort, IL

#12 Jul 23, 2014
SO WHAT wrote:
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Yeah, so? George Soros is a Hungarian-born American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. He is the chairman of Soros Fund Management. So just because he's been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals, his opinion means nothing?
Again with the lack of tolerance EJCDad?
He sounds like quite the awesome dude from what I've read, EXTREMELY SMART too!!
Is it because he's a major threat, financially, to the republican/tea party? C'mon already! You guys have plenty funtobemental-ist billionaire financial contributors. Give it a rest.
Saul Alinsky was very smart as well. But also very evil.

Since: Dec 12

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#13 Jul 23, 2014
SO WHAT wrote:
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Yeah, so? George Soros is a Hungarian-born American business magnate, investor, and philanthropist. He is the chairman of Soros Fund Management. So just because he's been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals, his opinion means nothing?
Nice glossing over of the man’s background. You forgot mention the following in 1997 he was accused by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad in 1997 of manipulating currency through trading activities. He was called an economic terrorist by that country. He is also known as the man who broke the Bank of England when he shorted the sterling and in the course gained 1 billion dollars in profit. Gave over 23 million dollars to various political groups in an effort to defeat Bush in 2004. Soros said the removal of Bush from office was the “central focus of my life.” During World War II he collaborated with the Nazi’s and confiscated other Jew’s property. Want me to go on?
SO WHAT wrote:
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Again with the lack of tolerance EJCDad?


I have a lack of intolerance for hypocrisy and media bias. You made my case for me in your defense of Soros.
SO WHAT wrote:
<quoted text> So just because he's been a prominent international supporter of democratic ideals, his opinion means nothing?
According to you it seems it is perfectly acceptable for the left to accept Soros’ money without question, but if is the Koch brothers they are trying to buy elections. Sorry you don’t give the amount of money Soros does without the thought of trying to influence elections. Yet, where is the main stream media on this? Why isn’t Harry Reid proselytizing in the Senate of the evils of George Soros money?
SO WHAT wrote:
<quoted text>He sounds like quite the awesome dude from what I've read, EXTREMELY SMART too!!
Is it because he's a major threat, financially, to the republican/tea party? C'mon already! You guys have plenty funtobemental-ist billionaire financial contributors. Give it a rest.
If you consider a man that has no morals and would see his fellow countrymen sent to the concentration camps and collapse the economies of not one but two countries to be and “awesome dude” then I worry about your own morals. The man is pure evil and cares for no one but himself. He is the person the left claims every conservative is and strives to be.
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Mokena, IL

#14 Jul 24, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
<quoted text> Lazy moi? Not by a long shot. I have on more than one occasion pointed out the hypocrisy of the left and the left's derangement syndrome with the Koch brothers in more than one thread. Since I am a registered user its very easy to find the threads where I have posted my musings about Mr.Soros. With all do respect it is you who is being lazy.
No, I pointed out that just saying "George Soros" in response to the original posters comment on the Koch brothers is lazy. It still is. The thread is about the Koch brothers. You can start a thread about George Soros. Here are some of the differences.

http://other98.com/soros-vs-koch-infographic/
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Mokena, IL

#15 Jul 24, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
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Nice glossing over of the man’s background. You forgot mention the following in 1997 he was accused by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad in 1997 of manipulating currency through trading activities. He was called an economic terrorist by that country. He is also known as the man who broke the Bank of England when he shorted the sterling and in the course gained 1 billion dollars in profit. Gave over 23 million dollars to various political groups in an effort to defeat Bush in 2004. Soros said the removal of Bush from office was the “central focus of my life.” During World War II he collaborated with the Nazi’s and confiscated other Jew’s property. Want me to go on?
<quoted text>
I have a lack of intolerance for hypocrisy and media bias. You made my case for me in your defense of Soros. <quoted text>
According to you it seems it is perfectly acceptable for the left to accept Soros’ money without question, but if is the Koch brothers they are trying to buy elections. Sorry you don’t give the amount of money Soros does without the thought of trying to influence elections. Yet, where is the main stream media on this? Why isn’t Harry Reid proselytizing in the Senate of the evils of George Soros money?
<quoted text>
If you consider a man that has no morals and would see his fellow countrymen sent to the concentration camps and collapse the economies of not one but two countries to be and “awesome dude” then I worry about your own morals. The man is pure evil and cares for no one but himself. He is the person the left claims every conservative is and strives to be.
You want to condemn George Soros as some kind of Nazi? He was 14 years old! There is far more to the story. Not that you care about truth.

http://www.georgesoros.com/faqs/entry/howgeor...

http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/09/20/t...

You're so typical of the Tea Bagging Republicans. You should be embarrassed that you have to repeat every lie and distortion that gets spread on Fox News and hate radio.

Since: Dec 12

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#16 Jul 24, 2014
Leave already wrote:
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No, I pointed out that just saying "George Soros" in response to the original posters comment on the Koch brothers is lazy. It still is. The thread is about the Koch brothers. You can start a thread about George Soros. Here are some of the differences.
http://other98.com/soros-vs-koch-infographic/
If I hadn't mentioned Soros you'd still have no idea who the man is and what he is capable of doing.
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Mokena, IL

#18 Jul 24, 2014
EJCDad wrote:
<quoted text> If I hadn't mentioned Soros you'd still have no idea who the man is and what he is capable of doing.
You're wrong as usual. How can any person who listens to even a little right wing radio or watch 10 minutes of Fox News not know who George Soros is? Of course he's the devil to you because he gives money to Democrats. The chart I linked shows how Soros compares to your heroes the Koch brothers. I'm sure Soros is no angel. However, the fact that you chose to smear him as a Nazi collaborator without having done any real research shows just what a lemming you really are. The man survived and thrived through greater hardship than you will ever know. The Koch brothers, well let's just say hardship isn't anything they would know about.

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#19 Jul 25, 2014
Leave already wrote:
<quoted text>You're wrong as usual. How can any person who listens to even a little right wing radio or watch 10 minutes of Fox News not know who George Soros is? Of course he's the devil to you because he gives money to Democrats. The chart I linked shows how Soros compares to your heroes the Koch brothers.
How am I wrong again? I cited nothing but facts and have stated my problem is the hypocrisy of the mainstream media. You have not disputed once that the MSM has not demonized Soros based on his donations. I pointed out that you cited Media Matters that that organization is funded by Soros and is obviously going to have nothing but praise for its benefactor. Why is that? Simple, they don’t want the cash flow to stop.

You cited another far left wing website again…. Other98.com is an offshoot of Institute for Policy Studies which is a left wing progressive think tank based in Washington DC . Certainly that group from their own mission statement “IPS is a community of public scholars and organizers linking peace, justice, and the environment in the U.S. and globally. We work with social movements to promote true democracy and challenge concentrated wealth, corporate influence, and military power” is not going to be a fan of any conservative organization. Now if you’re going to cite a website that compares the two objectively you should have cited this one https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/09/open... Pay particular attention to the verdict. Then ask yourself again why the media isn’t scrutinizing Soros as they do the Koch brothers. Aren’t the media supposed to be the watchdogs? If they are why are they only paying attention to one side?
Leave already wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure Soros is no angel. However, the fact that you chose to smear him as a Nazi collaborator without having done any real research shows just what a lemming you really are. The man survived and thrived through greater hardship than you will ever know. The Koch brothers, well let's just say hardship isn't anything they would know about.
There was no smear; those are the facts plain and simple. As much as you try and distort history the man collaborated with the Nazi’s and from his own words I showed you that he claimed the Nazi occupation of Hungry was the happiest time of his life. Additionally you don’t think a man of his means would try and sanitize his history? Try and find the interview with Steve Kroft on the web, all you’re going to find are snippets and the transcripts. You will not find the entire interview.

You still haven’t disputed his other deeds, was what he did crashing the currencies an evil act or not?
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#20 Jul 25, 2014
yeah EJ, the nazi collaborator thing really killed you. you know, one oh Shit!!! wipes out a 1,000 attaboys. You're in the hole big time!!

That is sordid, dude, I know you get roped in on a lot of terrible things but that is off the chart. glenn beck was pushing that calumny.

that kinda shit ruins you

Repent!!!!

apologize and retract.

i'll forgive you

Thank you in advance :)
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#21 Jul 25, 2014
EJ, please test the Data you take on. My age and vast experience have taught me Bullshit cannot withstand pressure, it must be tested. I can entertain many ideas and concepts without adopting them.
What I do adopt is due to rigorous testing, validating.

glenn beck is a very dangerous demogogue. The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. H. L. Mencken

Here are facts, look at how beck manipulated you.

"Puppet Master": Beck's lies about Soros, Day 1

http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/11/10/p...

beck has really made a name and reputation for himself. As you can imagine he has been thoroughly scrutinized. THOROUGHLY

check it out, in depth and ALL validated, credentialed sources and quotes. Here's a big clue for you little buddy,the mouth will always get the asshole into trouble.

becks freaking out now, he knows he's a fraud and he is in turmoil. He's taking heavy pharmaceuticals. He should smoke a joint and just be honest.

“Above all, don’t lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.”
— Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

The Glenn Beck Review
What Everyone Needs to Know About Beck's Honesty, Political Values and Methods of Communication

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/

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