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Naperville, IL

#42 Dec 5, 2012
hold it wrote:
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It was your arrogance that prompted me to respond to you. Hard to believe that a person who has worked in the public sector for so many years and paid into a pension fund would be so nonchalant about the possibility of losing it all, especially so close to retirement. Most people would be fighting tooth and nail to make sure the thieves didn't succeed. Oh well, to each his own. Enjoy your popcorn.
As I stated I am actively involved in the pension process. Please tell me what exactly I can do to stop the already elected state legislature and governor from doing what they will. They are responding to the people who are reacting to the news media telling them about the pension crisis. What the people are not getting is that these politicians created this problem. The worker never got a break from making his contributions to the funds. The worker lived up to his end of the bargain. Now the worker will be the one who again gets it in the arse. We all know major changes are coming. And if they are too extreme they will be fought in court battles, just as they have been in the other states. Meanwhile I can either accept that some change is coming and hope for the best, or what? Stand on the edge of a building waiting to jump? Too worry to excess does me no good. I do what I can within the system given me and take each day as it comes. No more, no less. And thanks I love popcorn still.
hold on

Naperville, IL

#43 Dec 5, 2012
Rubio 2016 wrote:
<quoted text>Again, brainwashed by the dem marketing machine. I can tell you this, i have been fortunate enough to be able to EARN an income that puts me comfortably in that 1 percent range that everyone seems to hate. I am not warren buffet or bill gates, but i do well. The thing is, it makes me want to vomit when i hear uninformed people like yourself say that many people like me pay no taxes at all. It's just absolute nonsense. Sure, i take advantage of every deduction that i can but i have news for you. That gets me down to around 30 percent in fed inc taxes. And i can tell you for certain that i have never met anyone else like me who pays much less. That is because we are the people who make anywhere from 250k to 1m per year, depending on the year. We are not billionaires like warren buffet that complain that we dont pay enough in taxes but turn around and spend 50 million dollars on tax attorneys to find every loophole.(i made up the 50 mil but i would love to know what he pays his tax attorneys) The problem is that $200k is a middle to upper middle class family these days. Politicians need to realize that and quit treating those people as rich.
Well number one I never implied that you or any other top earner paid no taxes at all. I said some people pay nothing at all. Usually those in the lower earning bracket, that pay an effective rate of 0%. So we will never see a flat tax rate it just wont happen. So lighten up. I will say that I find it hard to believe that you cannot find enough decuctions and loopholes that you pay an effective tax rate of 30%. I hold no grudge against you for doing well and living the dream, God bless Im sure it was not an easy path. And I have many friends who earn over 200k and I dont think them rich at all. I mean we are living in New Lenox a 200k household or even salary is probably more commonplace than thought. I myself do not make that, but I knew that going into my chosen profession. So I do not begrudge those who do.
hold it

New Lenox, IL

#44 Dec 10, 2012
hold on wrote:
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As I stated I am actively involved in the pension process. Please tell me what exactly I can do to stop the already elected state legislature and governor from doing what they will. They are responding to the people who are reacting to the news media telling them about the pension crisis. What the people are not getting is that these politicians created this problem. The worker never got a break from making his contributions to the funds. The worker lived up to his end of the bargain. Now the worker will be the one who again gets it in the arse. We all know major changes are coming. And if they are too extreme they will be fought in court battles, just as they have been in the other states. Meanwhile I can either accept that some change is coming and hope for the best, or what? Stand on the edge of a building waiting to jump? Too worry to excess does me no good. I do what I can within the system given me and take each day as it comes. No more, no less. And thanks I love popcorn still.
There were a lot of misinformed voters who inadvertently left it blank (counted as a yes) or voted yes because they thought it would save them money. If I had so much at stake I would have been posting on this forum and every editorial in the state of Illinois to convince people that voting for Prop 49 would be a big mistake. You may not agree with Neighbor and Professor but at least they are willing to stand up for what they believe is going on in this country.

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