President Clinton 2016
Four More Years

United States

#161 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>okay, ill play along! You Enjoy your retirement that you have been on since "40" and I'm sure you have a busy day planned struggling with them faceless insurance companies!Oh, the freedom!
Still embarrassed you were wrong about CHIP?Sometimes you look stupid when you think you are a know it all. You'll learn as you mature.
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#162 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Goober? You are so funny! Come on ,nut job! Please do better! You are the one that comes across as the southern hick! I could just see a fat sweaty you with your scruffy filthy face! What ever happened to the OWS movement types? Obama is the most liberal president besides that gimp FDR. What were you, the construction worker from the "Village People"? You come across as a creepy pervert type. Unions are done!
you remind me of a chimpanzee in a zoo, pulling poop out of your butt and what you don't eat you fling at the spectators. too horrible to watch. Tell us why taxpayers have to subsidize every Walmart to the tune of $1 million dollars per store. more than a few billion nationwide. that's socialism, don't hear you complaining.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/how-...
Really

New Lenox, IL

#163 Feb 27, 2014
No, Thats not it. I just think your whole story is made up. Liberals always lie! They have to!
Four More Years

United States

#164 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
No, Thats not it. I just think your whole story is made up. Liberals always lie! They have to!
Wrong again. Pure jealousy.
Really

New Lenox, IL

#165 Feb 27, 2014
Sharky wrote:
<quoted text> you remind me of a chimpanzee in a zoo, pulling poop out of your butt and what you don't eat you fling at the spectators. too horrible to watch. Tell us why taxpayers have to subsidize every Walmart to the tune of $1 million dollars per store. more than a few billion nationwide. that's socialism, don't hear you complaining.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-13/how-...
your idea of a utopian society is hilarious! Unions are done, sorry the WORKERS have lost! I don't even know any adult that makes minimum wage! Look at the type of person that does make minimum wage, young kids, illegals , the stupid and probably ex cons! you know, the majority of the Democrat base!Like I said, this is all a distraction conjured up by the Dems to get away from the fiasco that is Obamacare! As far as the zoo, aint that where you met your beast of a wife? Something tells me your have dug things out of somethings ass before. I'm not even sure it was human!
Really

New Lenox, IL

#166 Feb 27, 2014
Four More Years wrote:
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Wrong again. Pure jealousy.
Not really, I'm going to retire one day. It may not be at 40 but at least it will be real! Oh, and I will have insurance, too!
Four More Years

Gurnee, IL

#167 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text> Not really, I'm going to retire one day. It may not be at 40 but at least it will be real! Oh, and I will have insurance, too!
I hope you do have insurance.Never expected to have a problem.Work hard and you will be able to retire early.It wasn't difficult for me.Good luck.
Really

New Lenox, IL

#168 Feb 27, 2014
Four More Years wrote:
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I hope you do have insurance.Never expected to have a problem.Work hard and you will be able to retire early.It wasn't difficult for me.Good luck.
I meant my story is real, I still doubt yours!
Four More Years

Gurnee, IL

#169 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text> I meant my story is real, I still doubt yours!
Well you are wrong but that is your prerogative.I have nothing to gain by lying.Why don't you tell us more about yourself.You seem to have very strong opinions and sometimes not knowing the whole story.If you're bored call the State and ask them about ICHIP.Iwish I had known about it earlier.
Really

New Lenox, IL

#170 Feb 27, 2014
Well, now all of a sudden Holder is hospitalized with chest pains.. could it be that they are planning his "Exit" strategy!
Really

Chicago, IL

#171 Feb 27, 2014
Lets see, a 63 year old man feels faint. He goes to the hospital for chest pains. He gets released a couple of hours later? I know we live in the age of Obamacare but any competent Doctor would have kept him for observations! This is all part of the plan. They are going to use health reasons so he can leave....
The Original Dollar Bill

United States

#172 Feb 27, 2014
Four More Years wrote:
<quoted text>What's scary is people are talking about Jeb Bush running. I'm in the top 1% and am a first generation Democrat. I have 2 college degrees and retired at 40. Looks like you were wrong on most points. It's people like you that are ruining this country. I guess I could guess you are an uneducated hillbilly with a gun rack on your 86 Silverado. I have a real simple question for you. Did you vote for Bush? I refer to the past in the hope of not repeating the same mistakes.
Congadulations on an early retirement.
I'm curious what your 2 degrees are and your profession before retirement. As for my voting record. Carter, RR,RR. HWB,Clinton, Clinton, W,W, Barry in 08 only. Choose not to vote in 12 due to candidate choices.
In closing I don't think I'm ruining this country. I think those who continue to vote party affiliation may have an adverse affect as we continue to reelect dysfunctional Senate and HOR members and Chief Executive.
The Original Dollar Bill

United States

#173 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
Public unions have ruined this state.Billions in unfunded debt and entitlements. Who is going to pay for all of this? The Democrats have no idea. Chicago settled that huge contract in 2012 and next, had to close several schools to pay for it! 16% raise for teachers then dozens of the schools were ordered closed! All because of unions. What a deal! Now, the Democrats want to tax all of Illinois tax payers to pay for Chicago teachers! This is bullshit!
Don't blame the Unions. The blame falls on the Employer. Both parties negotiated a contract, agreed, and signed off. The employer did not budget or plan for future retirement costs.
Four More Years

New Lenox, IL

#174 Feb 27, 2014
The Original Dollar Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Congadulations on an early retirement.
I'm curious what your 2 degrees are and your profession before retirement. As for my voting record. Carter, RR,RR. HWB,Clinton, Clinton, W,W, Barry in 08 only. Choose not to vote in 12 due to candidate choices.
In closing I don't think I'm ruining this country. I think those who continue to vote party affiliation may have an adverse affect as we continue to reelect dysfunctional Senate and HOR members and Chief Executive.
Economics,Finance and Spanish. Hedge Fund and I have crossed party lines also.
The Original Dollar Bill

United States

#175 Feb 27, 2014
Four More Years wrote:
<quoted text>Economics,Finance and Spanish. Hedge Fund and I have crossed party lines also.
So, how am I ruining this country?
Fair and Balanced

Mokena, IL

#176 Feb 27, 2014
Appalled wrote:
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That double standard that you accuse me of doesn't appear to be so obvious to Really, Professor or Neighbor. LOL. I'm too liberal for them and too conservative for you. From where I stand you all look too extreme with opinions based on irrelevant facts. Your opinion seems just as preconceived as you accuse mine of being. You will have to debate Bush's faults with someone else. I find them irrelevant to this issue.
The three you mention have other issues. You said yourself you tend to vote like they do. Your posts speak for themselves. You have a double standard depending on if the President is a Republican or a Democrat. I didn't ask you to debate Bush's faults. I asked if you felt the same way about the multiple embassy attacks including 9/11 as you do about Benghazi. You don't. Your partisanship won't let you. That's my conclusion based on your posts.
This statement from you concerning all the attacks that occurred during the Bush years is a classic:
"I think we can all agree that the death of Americans, or anyone for that matter, at the hands of terrorists is unacceptable under any circumstances and administrations. I have to believe that each was scrutinized and investigated to the fullest extent because, well, that is just the common sense course of action."
How very trusting you were of George W Bush. Yet Obama and Clinton can't be trusted because they didn't mention a terrorist group by name and only mentioned the mob being incited by the You Tube video as a reason for the attack. You don't seem to understand why I'm accusing you of having a double standard. Especially when you decided to bring in the bodies of dead Americans into your argument for the sole purpose of attacking Obama and Clinton. You are not going to squirm out of that one. It was classless. So be it. Have fun being suspicious of Obama and pretending that Benghazi is really a scandal.
Four More Years

New Lenox, IL

#177 Feb 27, 2014
The Original Dollar Bill wrote:
<quoted text>So, how am I ruining this country?
You're doing just fine. I didn't mean anything by it. Cheers.
Really

Tinley Park, IL

#178 Feb 27, 2014
The Original Dollar Bill wrote:
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Don't blame the Unions. The blame falls on the Employer. Both parties negotiated a contract, agreed, and signed off. The employer did not budget or plan for future retirement costs.
I do blame Public Sector unions because they and the Dems have a Hooker/Prostitute relationship. The union's pay the Dems through Donations from union dues and the Dems give them everything they want, even if the city or what ever government body Cant afford it. Look at the Chicago Teachers union Strike of 2012. You know the one where Rham acted like a tough guy but crumbled to Karen Lewis. To watch the way those teachers behaved during the strike was appalling! Wearing Red T shirts with, some with pics of Che Guerra, banging drums, jumping around acting like savages. Some of these people were so foul, it was hard to watch. They behaved like they were mistreated and were in jail! Eventually, Rham folded and gave them a 16% raise. Soon after, he announced layoffs of teachers and dozen of school closures. The union filed a suit to stop this, even though there is no money and no other options available. Rham then had to borrow almost 1 Billion Dollars a couple of weeks ago. He still hasnt settled with the Police and Fire who are both wanting what the teachers got. Rham and the Dems are now proposing that they tax the whole State to help pay off City of Chicago employees! WTF? Then we still have to deal with pension reform. Where is that going to lead? The citizens did not get a direct say so in any of this. We have billions in unfunded pension debt for City, County and State employee's. All unions. They aren't victims here. Something has to give and it won't be the Tax payer. Why aren't these politicians who cut these ridiculous deals held accountable. No, they all retire with their own sweet deals and leave the state they worked so hard to screw up! So, what's your solution? The Dems have none!
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#179 Feb 27, 2014
Fair and Balanced wrote:
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The three you mention have other issues. You said yourself you tend to vote like they do. Your posts speak for themselves. You have a double standard depending on if the President is a Republican or a Democrat. I didn't ask you to debate Bush's faults. I asked if you felt the same way about the multiple embassy attacks including 9/11 as you do about Benghazi. You don't. Your partisanship won't let you. That's my conclusion based on your posts.
This statement from you concerning all the attacks that occurred during the Bush years is a classic:
"I think we can all agree that the death of Americans, or anyone for that matter, at the hands of terrorists is unacceptable under any circumstances and administrations. I have to believe that each was scrutinized and investigated to the fullest extent because, well, that is just the common sense course of action."
How very trusting you were of George W Bush. Yet Obama and Clinton can't be trusted because they didn't mention a terrorist group by name and only mentioned the mob being incited by the You Tube video as a reason for the attack. You don't seem to understand why I'm accusing you of having a double standard. Especially when you decided to bring in the bodies of dead Americans into your argument for the sole purpose of attacking Obama and Clinton. You are not going to squirm out of that one. It was classless. So be it. Have fun being suspicious of Obama and pretending that Benghazi is really a scandal.
I didn't bring the bodies of the dead Americans into the argument. Clinton did. My point was that Clinton continued to misdirect the focus of the attack long after more accurate intel was available. She picked the time and place. Should this bit of truth be buried because you are offended? If anyone is trying to squirm out of something, it is you, IMO.

Coming to different conclusions than you and choosing a different candidate than you does not automatically translate into a double standard. I have voted across party lines. I gave Obama fair consideration during his first run but my trust issues with him arose during that campaign.

You seem to believe that someone who did not vote for Obama is incapable of fair judgement. That seems to reflect more on your double standard than mine.

If Clinton decides to run then she should be judged by her actions, her accomplishments and her past job performance.....not Bush's. This makes Benghazi a valid issue for evaluation.
Sharky

Schenectady, NY

#180 Feb 27, 2014
Really wrote:
<quoted text> I do blame Public Sector unions because they and the Dems have a Hooker/Prostitute relationship. The union's pay the Dems through Donations from union dues and the Dems give them everything they want, even if the city or what ever government body Cant afford it. Look at the Chicago Teachers union Strike of 2012. You know the one where Rham acted like a tough guy but crumbled to Karen Lewis. To watch the way those teachers behaved during the strike was appalling! Wearing Red T shirts with, some with pics of Che Guerra, banging drums, jumping around acting like savages. Some of these people were so foul, it was hard to watch. They behaved like they were mistreated and were in jail! Eventually, Rham folded and gave them a 16% raise. Soon after, he announced layoffs of teachers and dozen of school closures. The union filed a suit to stop this, even though there is no money and no other options available. Rham then had to borrow almost 1 Billion Dollars a couple of weeks ago. He still hasnt settled with the Police and Fire who are both wanting what the teachers got. Rham and the Dems are now proposing that they tax the whole State to help pay off City of Chicago employees! WTF? Then we still have to deal with pension reform. Where is that going to lead? The citizens did not get a direct say so in any of this. We have billions in unfunded pension debt for City, County and State employee's. All unions. They aren't victims here. Something has to give and it won't be the Tax payer. Why aren't these politicians who cut these ridiculous deals held accountable. No, they all retire with their own sweet deals and leave the state they worked so hard to screw up! So, what's your solution? The Dems have none!
I can't say anything about Chicago politics, it's the stuff of legend, like the Cubs not winning a series since 1908

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