Was Christianity an Ancient Roman Psy-Op?

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AntiSheeple

Lemont, IL

#1 Oct 22, 2013
Religion is most definitely used to maintain order in a society. During the time of Emperor Constantinus (Constantine), he used Christianity to consolidate his rule over the Roman Empire. But what if there was a conspiracy that predates his rule altogether?

The Christian faith is the result of the most successful psy-ops program in history, according to an American Bible scholar.

Joseph Atwill will present his controversial theory Oct. 19 in London that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats as part of a sophisticated government project to help pacify Jews in occupied territories.
Atwill, author of “Caesar’s Messiah,” claims he's found ancient confessions by the scriptures’authors that they invented Jesus Christ and his story as basically a form of propaganda.

“Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century,” Atwill said.“When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the‘peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give onto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome.”

He says that Jesus was not based on an actual historical figure, but Atwill argues that the events of his life were overlaid on top of actual events from the First Jewish-Roman War, waged by Emperor Titus Flavius in Palestinian territories.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar,” he says.
Atwill said he understands that his theory is bound to upset Christians, and he's hoping skeptics will come to challenge him after his lecture as part of a symposium,“Covert Messiah,” along with Kenneth Humphreys, author of “Jesus Never Existed.”

“Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history,” Atwill says.“To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East.”
Logically Speaking

Lemont, IL

#2 Oct 25, 2013
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." ~Napoleon Bonaparte

“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.”
~Robert Anton Wilson

“No amount of belief makes something a fact.”
~The Amazing James Randi

"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
~Desmond Tutu

Lighthouses are more helpful then churches.
~Benjamin Franklin

Faith means not wanting to know what is true.
~Friedrich Nietzsche

A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows.
~Samuel Clemens

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
~Edward Gibbon

Religion is the most malevolent of all mind viruses.
~Arthur C. Clarke

Without religion, we'd have good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
~Stephen Weinberg

The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.
~Thomas Jefferson

Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies.
~Thomas Jefferson
The Rock

Lockport, IL

#3 Oct 26, 2013
AntiSheeple wrote:
Religion is most definitely used to maintain order in a society. During the time of Emperor Constantinus (Constantine), he used Christianity to consolidate his rule over the Roman Empire. But what if there was a conspiracy that predates his rule altogether?

The Christian faith is the result of the most successful psy-ops program in history, according to an American Bible scholar.

Joseph Atwill will present his controversial theory Oct. 19 in London that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats as part of a sophisticated government project to help pacify Jews in occupied territories.
Atwill, author of “Caesar’s Messiah,” claims he's found ancient confessions by the scriptures’authors that they invented Jesus Christ and his story as basically a form of propaganda.

“Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century,” Atwill said.“When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the‘peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give onto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome.”

He says that Jesus was not based on an actual historical figure, but Atwill argues that the events of his life were overlaid on top of actual events from the First Jewish-Roman War, waged by Emperor Titus Flavius in Palestinian territories.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar,” he says.
Atwill said he understands that his theory is bound to upset Christians, and he's hoping skeptics will come to challenge him after his lecture as part of a symposium,“Covert Messiah,” along with Kenneth Humphreys, author of “Jesus Never Existed.”

“Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history,” Atwill says.“To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East.”
I would observe that it was the most unsuccessful psyc-op. Christianity completely supplanted the Romans. Constantine embraced Christianity because he had to - the psyc-op by his time had overwhelmed Roman culture. It was either "join them" or be swallowed.
Barry Goldwater

Lockport, IL

#4 Oct 26, 2013
It is a the same. All Religions offer eternal life for prescribed behavior. The religious you see are the ones that actually lack faith in others.

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