Time for Some Pay back

Time for Some Pay back

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Unincorporated

New Lenox, IL

#1 Oct 20, 2013
Yep


One word -- Yep.

This man gets it.

How many of you will do it?

So who is it that really collects the taxes, runs the checkpoints, spies on the phone calls, and all the other things you don't like?

It's your neighbors, that's who. They may even be your friend or relative.

The question I have is- "Why is it so easy for them to behave this way?" By this I mean- Why is there no social price to pay for working for the IRS or NSA? Why are these people treated as "valued public servants" instead as the abusive parasites that they are?

These people live their everyday lives in OUR world, yet they spend their professional time harassing us.

It is time to return the favor. They all need their car repaired, their hair done, their relaxing time at the pub. WE, the productive class, are the people who supply all these things.

Take it away from them.

That's perfectly legal too.

So let me guess -- you really like being felt up by the TSA, along with all the other abuses -- right?

After all, you aren't doing the above -- are you?

Now there's something to think about.....

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Appalled

Joliet, IL

#2 Oct 20, 2013
Nobody really likes that these jobs of regulation have to exist, probably not even most of the people who do them.

But, as someone who follows the rules and understands their purpose and believes in law as a form of order and fairness and safety, and someone who has never been harassed by these entities, I appreciate the job these people do to help catch the crooks.
Professor

Mokena, IL

#3 Oct 20, 2013
Appalled wrote:
Nobody really likes that these jobs of regulation have to exist, probably not even most of the people who do them.
But, as someone who follows the rules and understands their purpose and believes in law as a form of order and fairness and safety, and someone who has never been harassed by these entities, I appreciate the job these people do to help catch the crooks.
That's the problem. They harass the productive and ignore the unproductive, ignorant, deadbeat losers of society! Remember when that BLACK productive pediatric brain surgeon whom called Obama out on Obamacare? The BLACK man from the PROJECTS? Named Ben Carson? He was targeted by the IRS shortly after that. The first time ever in his life! Coincidence? Only a fool would believe that! It was an orchestrated targeted attack for going against the Progressive Marxist Movement of this government!

If it doesn't involve you now your not concerned? When it gets down to you........its too late!

Appalled

Joliet, IL

#4 Oct 20, 2013
Professor wrote:
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That's the problem. They harass the productive and ignore the unproductive, ignorant, deadbeat losers of society! Remember when that BLACK productive pediatric brain surgeon whom called Obama out on Obamacare? The BLACK man from the PROJECTS? Named Ben Carson? He was targeted by the IRS shortly after that. The first time ever in his life! Coincidence? Only a fool would believe that! It was an orchestrated targeted attack for going against the Progressive Marxist Movement of this government!
If it doesn't involve you now your not concerned? When it gets down to you........its too late!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kJOEmokI7jgXX
You are confused, IMO, on what the problem is. In your scenario, abuse of the rules is the problem. I would agree and add that non-enforcement by the regulators is also a big problem (I'm sure you know what I am referring to here). But IMO, without regulation we would be over run with bigger problems including having to pay even more than we do now for those who do not pay their fair share and we would have to suffer the consequences of terrorists gaining the upper hand.

I understand your position but I think that in today's national and world picture there is a need to balance and prioritize.
Professor

Chicago, IL

#5 Oct 20, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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You are confused, IMO, on what the problem is. In your scenario, abuse of the rules is the problem. I would agree and add that non-enforcement by the regulators is also a big problem (I'm sure you know what I am referring to here). But IMO, without regulation we would be over run with bigger problems including having to pay even more than we do now for those who do not pay their fair share and we would have to suffer the consequences of terrorists gaining the upper hand.
I understand your position but I think that in today's national and world picture there is a need to balance and prioritize.
Appalled, what happened to Eric Holder for tax fraud ? Nothing ! The rules and laws in this nation are a joke. We have the ruling class.......and then the ruled!
Professor

Chicago, IL

#7 Oct 20, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
I think UNI's point is that why not "OUT" these folks who take on the roles the NSA, TSA, EPA, Park Services take on. It's really not ok to pat down young, old, disabled, as they do, in the manner that they do. It's really not ok for WWII vets to be blocked & manhandled at their Memorial, etc...et...
It makes sense to treat these folks exactly the way they treat us...let their family & friends & neighbor know what they do & who they are.
Makes perfect sense to me.
That's the correct solution. The major obstruction is "Low Information Citizens" They are plentiful and they vote!
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#8 Oct 20, 2013
Professor wrote:
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Appalled, what happened to Eric Holder for tax fraud ? Nothing ! The rules and laws in this nation are a joke. We have the ruling class.......and then the ruled!
You are right. The problem is no enforcement or uneven enforcement or abuse of enforcement, not necessarily the rules themselves.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#9 Oct 20, 2013
Neighbor wrote:
I think UNI's point is that why not "OUT" these folks who take on the roles the NSA, TSA, EPA, Park Services take on. It's really not ok to pat down young, old, disabled, as they do, in the manner that they do. It's really not ok for WWII vets to be blocked & manhandled at their Memorial, etc...et...
It makes sense to treat these folks exactly the way they treat us...let their family & friends & neighbor know what they do & who they are.
Makes perfect sense to me.
It makes sense to blame the people who MAKE the rules, not the people who are just doing their jobs. According to you if my neighbor works security at the airport I should shun him. If my other neighbor works for the IRS I should treat him with disdain. If a cop stops you for speeding I should blame the cop. If a kid is wearing a hoodie, he is automatically a thug. If you are a public employee you do not deserve your paycheck.

Yeah right, it all makes perfect sense in your world.
Professor

Chicago, IL

#10 Oct 20, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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You are right. The problem is no enforcement or uneven enforcement or abuse of enforcement, not necessarily the rules themselves.
Agree. The problem with that is why do we need to obey what the ruling class is exempt from ?

That is oppressive Tyranny to me. Then the lawless regime criticizes other for what they are exempt from? Unbelievable what goes on in this country!
Unincorporated

New Lenox, IL

#11 Oct 20, 2013
You sell your soul when you work for the IRS, TSA, and all the other alphabets. Have you ever been audited? This is another American putting you in the frying pan. Kind of like the secret police. The TSA has caught exactly zero people trying to skirt security to bring a plane down. Yet they grope an old infirm woman and let the Saudi walk by to be "correct and fair".
If our neighbor is a TSA agent, yes, shun him. If he works for the IRS, shun him as well. Don't serve them in your establishment or give them bad service. They are just following orders? We've heard that one before. Screw these people.
The analogy with the cop doesn't apply. You are breaking a law. The hoodie thing? If you look like a thug, I'm treating you as such. Why do you want to hide your face? Appalled, do you like being a sheep, because you are acting like one.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#12 Oct 20, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
You sell your soul when you work for the IRS, TSA, and all the other alphabets. Have you ever been audited? This is another American putting you in the frying pan. Kind of like the secret police. The TSA has caught exactly zero people trying to skirt security to bring a plane down. Yet they grope an old infirm woman and let the Saudi walk by to be "correct and fair".
If our neighbor is a TSA agent, yes, shun him. If he works for the IRS, shun him as well. Don't serve them in your establishment or give them bad service. They are just following orders? We've heard that one before. Screw these people.
The analogy with the cop doesn't apply. You are breaking a law. The hoodie thing? If you look like a thug, I'm treating you as such. Why do you want to hide your face? Appalled, do you like being a sheep, because you are acting like one.
I don't think I am acting like a sheep. I think if I have to follow the rules, everyone should. And if you don't follow the law then you need to be caught. If auditing helps catch tax cheats, then that is what needs to be done. If airport security is what keeps the terrorists away, then frisk away. The cop analogy works when you try to blame the wrong person for the problem. And.......I had my hoodie up to keep my hair dry in a rain storm recently. Am I a thug?

I understand the unfairness and inconvenience. But I also understand the purpose.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#13 Oct 20, 2013
Uni, are you truly suggesting the abolishment of all regulatory agencies? Would that mean I no longer have to pay my taxes? And would I be responsible for covering my own butt when someone decides to fly a plane into a building?

Just guessing here but........have you recently been notified of an audit?
Professor

Mokena, IL

#14 Oct 20, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
You sell your soul when you work for the IRS, TSA, and all the other alphabets. Have you ever been audited? This is another American putting you in the frying pan. Kind of like the secret police. The TSA has caught exactly zero people trying to skirt security to bring a plane down. Yet they grope an old infirm woman and let the Saudi walk by to be "correct and fair".
If our neighbor is a TSA agent, yes, shun him. If he works for the IRS, shun him as well. Don't serve them in your establishment or give them bad service. They are just following orders? We've heard that one before. Screw these people.
The analogy with the cop doesn't apply. You are breaking a law. The hoodie thing? If you look like a thug, I'm treating you as such. Why do you want to hide your face? Appalled, do you like being a sheep, because you are acting like one.
Right On! I love the HARD TRUTH!
Professor

Mokena, IL

#15 Oct 20, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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I don't think I am acting like a sheep. I think if I have to follow the rules, everyone should. And if you don't follow the law then you need to be caught. If auditing helps catch tax cheats, then that is what needs to be done. If airport security is what keeps the terrorists away, then frisk away. The cop analogy works when you try to blame the wrong person for the problem. And.......I had my hoodie up to keep my hair dry in a rain storm recently. Am I a thug?
I understand the unfairness and inconvenience. But I also understand the purpose.
Are going to wear your hoodie in the rain while walking on private property, near homes, in a neighborhood that has suffered a rash of burglaries?
Professor

Mokena, IL

#16 Oct 20, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
You sell your soul when you work for the IRS, TSA, and all the other alphabets. Have you ever been audited? This is another American putting you in the frying pan. Kind of like the secret police. The TSA has caught exactly zero people trying to skirt security to bring a plane down. Yet they grope an old infirm woman and let the Saudi walk by to be "correct and fair".
If our neighbor is a TSA agent, yes, shun him. If he works for the IRS, shun him as well. Don't serve them in your establishment or give them bad service. They are just following orders? We've heard that one before. Screw these people.
The analogy with the cop doesn't apply. You are breaking a law. The hoodie thing? If you look like a thug, I'm treating you as such. Why do you want to hide your face? Appalled, do you like being a sheep, because you are acting like one.
I love this post "Unincorporated" You were overdue for a blast like this one!:-)
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#17 Oct 20, 2013
Professor wrote:
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Are going to wear your hoodie in the rain while walking on private property, near homes, in a neighborhood that has suffered a rash of burglaries?
Well actually, yes. I got caught in the rain while taking a walk and cut through my neighbor's yard. We haven't had any burglaries recently but we are watching for the little brats who are responsible for some recent vandalism in the neighborhood. So, am I a thug?
Professor

Mokena, IL

#18 Oct 21, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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Well actually, yes. I got caught in the rain while taking a walk and cut through my neighbor's yard. We haven't had any burglaries recently but we are watching for the little brats who are responsible for some recent vandalism in the neighborhood. So, am I a thug?
You were in your own neighborhood, cutting through your neighbors yard to get home, no burglaries. I say your not a thug, but you could appear suspicious! You could have easily been questioned if noticed. If your were questioned by your neighbor, would you become violent & begin severely beating them while calling them racial slurs?
Unincorporated

Detroit, MI

#19 Oct 21, 2013
Appalled, these people need to be called to account for their actions. I was audited 10 years ago. Not pleasant. TSA has caught exactly zero terrorists, but have hassled countless children and old people of Western descent. Zero terrorists caught. Ponder that. You are not a thug. You couldn't be one with three tries. These folks are no better than Nazi guards just doing their jobs. They are violating us. You don't get that?
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#20 Oct 21, 2013
Professor wrote:
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You were in your own neighborhood, cutting through your neighbors yard to get home, no burglaries. I say your not a thug, but you could appear suspicious! You could have easily been questioned if noticed. If your were questioned by your neighbor, would you become violent & begin severely beating them while calling them racial slurs?
You bet I would if my neighbor was acting nuts and I thought my life was in jeopardy. I would not do the racial slur thing, though. I do not do that.
Appalled

Joliet, IL

#21 Oct 21, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
Appalled, these people need to be called to account for their actions. I was audited 10 years ago. Not pleasant. TSA has caught exactly zero terrorists, but have hassled countless children and old people of Western descent. Zero terrorists caught. Ponder that. You are not a thug. You couldn't be one with three tries. These folks are no better than Nazi guards just doing their jobs. They are violating us. You don't get that?
No, Uni, I don't. Nobody is performing experiments on people, gassing them or harming them physically in any way so comparing them to Nazi Germany is quite a stretch to me.

The fact that zero terrorists have been caught suggests to me that something is working. I fly occasionally and until they find another way to guarantee that the dude next to me is not packing a bomb in his shoe then I will put up with the inconvenience with the understanding that this procedure is in place not because anyone wants it, but because this will keep me and my family safe.

You don't get that?

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