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Well Now

Wilmette, IL

#67 Oct 30, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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You are making wrongful assumptions about me, putting words in my mouth and misrepresenting my position. I get to define my history, my choices and my opinion, not you. Sorry you didn't get it.
Nobody made any wrongful assumptions or put words in your mouth, you said what you said. Based on what you said others don't agree. Sorry you don't get it. Look around you, things have changed. There are many good, educated, ambitious people working in low paying jobs because that is all there is available.
Appalled

Wilmington, IL

#68 Oct 31, 2013
Well Now wrote:
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Nobody made any wrongful assumptions or put words in your mouth, you said what you said. Based on what you said others don't agree. Sorry you don't get it. Look around you, things have changed. There are many good, educated, ambitious people working in low paying jobs because that is all there is available.
You made the assumption that I do not know what college costs these days when I do......times two. You also assumed that I do not recognize that educated people are filling these minimum wage jobs. Wrong again. You assumed by my current job that I have never had a job that compares in work load to these minimum wage workers. Way wrong. You assume that because someone has a union affiliated job that they are 100% pro-union. Big leap.

You claimed I was insensitive to the hard work these people do. I never said anything like that and you took what I did say about paying more for a hamburger out of context and made it sound like something I never said.

I am fully aware of the impact the economy has had on the people who fill these jobs, I also stated that I am not against a reasonable raise in the wage. You missed that, huh. I just do not agree that the solution to this problem is to give these level jobs the hypothetical 70% raise.

If you are going to define other people's position you should at least attempt to understand them. Your fabrication of other people's personal life doesn't make your argument look stronger. You just look foolish.
Well Now

Wilmette, IL

#69 Oct 31, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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You made the assumption that I do not know what college costs these days when I do......times two. You also assumed that I do not recognize that educated people are filling these minimum wage jobs. Wrong again. You assumed by my current job that I have never had a job that compares in work load to these minimum wage workers. Way wrong. You assume that because someone has a union affiliated job that they are 100% pro-union. Big leap.
You claimed I was insensitive to the hard work these people do. I never said anything like that and you took what I did say about paying more for a hamburger out of context and made it sound like something I never said.
I am fully aware of the impact the economy has had on the people who fill these jobs, I also stated that I am not against a reasonable raise in the wage. You missed that, huh. I just do not agree that the solution to this problem is to give these level jobs the hypothetical 70% raise.
If you are going to define other people's position you should at least attempt to understand them. Your fabrication of other people's personal life doesn't make your argument look stronger. You just look foolish.
Okay Neighbor Appalled declare yourself the winner! Your words didn't mean what you said. You are not pompous and self-serving. Anyone who dares to disagree with you is foolish.
Neighbor

Chicago, IL

#70 Oct 31, 2013
Well Now...you stated that perfectly.

Go have a great day
Appalled

Wilmington, IL

#71 Oct 31, 2013
Well Now wrote:
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Okay Neighbor Appalled declare yourself the winner! Your words didn't mean what you said. You are not pompous and self-serving. Anyone who dares to disagree with you is foolish.
I never said you were foolish because you disagree with me. I said you look foolish when you fabricate things about me and my life that are not true. Obviously it is not my words that are the problem, it is your comprehension.
Professor

Frankfort, IL

#72 Oct 31, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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I never said you were foolish because you disagree with me. I said you look foolish when you fabricate things about me and my life that are not true. Obviously it is not my words that are the problem, it is your comprehension.
I'm APPALLED by your insults to people! You are chasing away good contributors! I don't think you realize how you come off sounding at times? Does this scolding sound familiar to you? Neighbor & I can recite it verbatim! < :-)
Unincorporated

Frankfort, IL

#73 Oct 31, 2013
Burgermeister wrote:
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Your deep knowledge of economics is staggering. You think people should work for nothing and be thankful for that. You and Appalled are real geniuses. I get a kick out of Appalled giving the old "they should better themselves by getting more education and better training. Appalled must be older than I thought. I guess she didn't notice how expensive college tuition is these days. 25 grand just to go to a state school. It was probably around $1,500 a year back in late 60's when she went. You going to float all tuition expenses for your kids when they get college age or are you going to teach them all to be traders? THey aren't going to be able to pay for it on their own working at Starbucks.
Keep it up. Let's let every job be minimum wage. My company just cut 360 employees from systems tech support. Those are skilled jobs but they cost too much compared to workers in India. 30% of our product management group is being outsourced to a subsidiary company based in Panama. Our CEO appears to think just like you do. Your one of the guys who can't wait to get your gun because your afraid of your fellow man. This keeps up and and your commute to work is going to get real interesting. That is while you have a job to commute to. Trading can be done overseas too. They're willing to work longer hours and for less. Now can you and Appalled compete with a 20 year old for that McDonald's job?
Oh, cry me a river for Pete's sake. Shut up. If you skew the economics of a situation by paying a higher than necessary wage, the market becomes distorted resulting in a misallocation of resources. In other words, the economy doesn't function as efficiently as it should resulting in fewer jobs overall. There you go genius. That's why minimum wage isn't 100 dollars an hour. Slide that in your noggin for a while, rattle it around and see what comes out. Oh, I paid for three college educations. Sorry you couldn't. You should have worked smarter, not harder. Is that my fault or Appalled's.
Well Now

Wilmette, IL

#74 Oct 31, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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I never said you were foolish because you disagree with me. I said you look foolish when you fabricate things about me and my life that are not true. Obviously it is not my words that are the problem, it is your comprehension.
Well now... just like Neighbor you couldn't resist having the last word. Nobody fabricated anything about your life just repeated what you have said. Smug and self-serving Appalled. Maybe you are the bad penny of Topix not Neighbor.
Appalled

Wilmington, IL

#75 Oct 31, 2013
Well Now wrote:
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Well now... just like Neighbor you couldn't resist having the last word. Nobody fabricated anything about your life just repeated what you have said. Smug and self-serving Appalled. Maybe you are the bad penny of Topix not Neighbor.
I wasn't having the last word so much as I was correcting your misinformation. For one, you fabricated what my husband did on the job 98% of the time. He hasn't been a member of the union for over ten years and I am not a TA. So yeah, you do fabricate things as they suit your needs. Just sayin.
Well Now

Wilmette, IL

#76 Oct 31, 2013
Appalled wrote:
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I wasn't having the last word so much as I was correcting your misinformation. For one, you fabricated what my husband did on the job 98% of the time. He hasn't been a member of the union for over ten years and I am not a TA. So yeah, you do fabricate things as they suit your needs. Just sayin.
I think you have me mixed up with another person. I don't know what you are referring to when you say you are not a TA. Tight Azz?

As for what your husband did on the job I stand by what I said.
Firefighters work 24 hour shifts and unless there is a fire or accident they don't do much of anything. There aren't very many fires especially in the suburbs. They eat, sleep, do a little maintenance and then watch TV. Since they usually have about 20 days a month off they have time for another job or business. All the firefighters I know have something going on the side. Was your husband a only a firefighter? I think probably not. I am also guessing he retired at fat and fifty with a good union pension. Just sayin.

Correct my misinformation, what was a typical workday like for your firefighter? What did he do 98% of the time?
Burgermeister

Frankfort, IL

#77 Oct 31, 2013
Unincorporated wrote:
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Oh, cry me a river for Pete's sake. Shut up. If you skew the economics of a situation by paying a higher than necessary wage, the market becomes distorted resulting in a misallocation of resources. In other words, the economy doesn't function as efficiently as it should resulting in fewer jobs overall. There you go genius. That's why minimum wage isn't 100 dollars an hour. Slide that in your noggin for a while, rattle it around and see what comes out. Oh, I paid for three college educations. Sorry you couldn't. You should have worked smarter, not harder. Is that my fault or Appalled's.
Yeah right. Did you read that out of dictionary? Why don't you define higher than necessary wage? Why does your distorted market crap only apply to minimum wage workers and not CEO's who take millions of dollars in compensation from companies whether they fail or not? You don't have an answer because you're not that smart. You and Appalled both ignored the fact that McDonald's, Walmart, etc. are extremely profitable due to paying dirt cheap wages with little or no benefits. The taxpayers get to pick up the tab to help take care of these people. You two must not be nearly as well off financially as you claim you are if you're threatened by service workers making $15 bucks an hour. Sorry if that seems like a lot of money to you.
Nice ridiculous hypothetical on the minimum wage to try and make your point. Nobody here needs your simpleton explanation that the economy can't support a $100.00 an hour minimum wage. The only person throwing out ridiculous numbers is you. What..the $50.00 an hour minimum wage you threw out there on a previous post wasn't over the top enough? You felt the need to bump it up to $100. You remain a buffoon.
Keep it up. Keep excusing corporate greed with your "distorted market" and "misallocation of resources" crap. Wait till your kid's jobs or yours gets outsourced to people in another country who will work for less than you will. Keep pissing all over the working poor. Their numbers are growing every day. After a while they'll stop asking and start taking. You and Appalled seem to want to live in a third world country. You just keep on with your short sighted and self serving nonsense and see what happens to the USA. Your train ride downtown passes through plenty of neighborhoods now that scare you. How do you think that ride will be for your kids 20 years from now?
Appalled

Wilmington, IL

#78 Oct 31, 2013
Not interested in your bait. He's all yours, Uni.
Unincorporated

Chicago, IL

#80 Nov 1, 2013
Burgermeister wrote:
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Yeah right. Did you read that out of dictionary? Why don't you define higher than necessary wage? Why does your distorted market crap only apply to minimum wage workers and not CEO's who take millions of dollars in compensation from companies whether they fail or not? You don't have an answer because you're not that smart. You and Appalled both ignored the fact that McDonald's, Walmart, etc. are extremely profitable due to paying dirt cheap wages with little or no benefits. The taxpayers get to pick up the tab to help take care of these people. You two must not be nearly as well off financially as you claim you are if you're threatened by service workers making $15 bucks an hour. Sorry if that seems like a lot of money to you.
Nice ridiculous hypothetical on the minimum wage to try and make your point. Nobody here needs your simpleton explanation that the economy can't support a $100.00 an hour minimum wage. The only person throwing out ridiculous numbers is you. What..the $50.00 an hour minimum wage you threw out there on a previous post wasn't over the top enough? You felt the need to bump it up to $100. You remain a buffoon.
Keep it up. Keep excusing corporate greed with your "distorted market" and "misallocation of resources" crap. Wait till your kid's jobs or yours gets outsourced to people in another country who will work for less than you will. Keep pissing all over the working poor. Their numbers are growing every day. After a while they'll stop asking and start taking. You and Appalled seem to want to live in a third world country. You just keep on with your short sighted and self serving nonsense and see what happens to the USA. Your train ride downtown passes through plenty of neighborhoods now that scare you. How do you think that ride will be for your kids 20 years from now?
Wow! Bitter much? What happened to you in life to make you so angry at those who have worked hard and done well? Are you still at the drive through window at McDonald's? I'll have a large fries with that. I'm speaking your language now, aren't I?
Professor

Frankfort, IL

#81 Nov 1, 2013
Well Now wrote:
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Nobody made any wrongful assumptions or put words in your mouth, you said what you said. Based on what you said others don't agree. Sorry you don't get it. Look around you, things have changed. There are many good, educated, ambitious people working in low paying jobs because that is all there is available.
When was the last time you went to mcdonalds? I have yet to see anyone educated working there besides maybe a manager now and then. They move like turtles also. Not very motivated. Nobody educated and motivated is stuck working at mcdonalds!
Ronald Macdonlad

United States

#82 Nov 1, 2013
I think I know someone who igetting a big loogie in their big mac!
Ronald Macdonlad

United States

#83 Nov 1, 2013
Professor wrote:
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When was the last time you went to mcdonalds? I have yet to see anyone educated working there besides maybe a manager now and then. They move like turtles also. Not very motivated. Nobody educated and motivated is stuck working at mcdonalds!
It's mostly kids from LWC and LWW. I applied after losing my job drivn a truck. They wouldn't hire me...don't know why.
Professor

Frankfort, IL

#84 Nov 1, 2013
Ronald Macdonlad wrote:
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It's mostly kids from LWC and LWW. I applied after losing my job drivn a truck. They wouldn't hire me...don't know why.
Thanks for confirming....."Liberalis m Is A Mental Disorder" < :-)
Ronald Macdonlad

United States

#86 Nov 1, 2013
Professor wrote:
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Thanks for confirming....."Liberalis m Is A Mental Disorder" < :-)
I belong to the Mea Party!
Astronaut Yellowhammer

New Lenox, IL

#87 Nov 3, 2013
Professor wrote:
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Keep eating McDonalds and you will be on the front lines for the Obama death panels Jan 1st!
There are no death panels you clown! Just another republican lie!

Claim: Obamacare mandates that no one over 75 will be given major medical procedures unless approved by an ethics board.

Snopes: FALSE

What a Maroon!
Unincoporated

Frankfort, IL

#88 Nov 3, 2013
There will be panels to determine if a procedure is the right thing for the right person. A drunkard will not receive a new liver nor should he. That is in essence, a Death Panel. They exist now. Unless of course you're Steve Jobs. Then you cut to the front of the line. $$$$$

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