The Johnstown Mentality

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louann

Johnstown, PA

#2 Jul 19, 2007
Jay Town wrote:
What exactly is it and how do we fix it?
that's hilarious! thanks for the chuckle!

Since: Jan 07

AOL

#3 Jul 19, 2007
louann wrote:
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that's hilarious! thanks for the chuckle!
Is it even fixable?

Since: Jan 07

AOL

#5 Jul 20, 2007
Angry with Johnstowners wrote:
There are two main components to the Johnstown Mentality:
1) Jack Murtha is the King. He can do no wrong and he should be worshiped like a god. His pork projects help keep the region's head just above water so when he dies Johnstown dies with him.
2) Unions are the greatest thing since sliced bread and they still hold the key to the regions economic recovery. Always blame management because just like Murtha, unions can do no wrong.
There's a lot more to the Johnstown Mentality like denial that the population has declined dramatically, that Johnstown is NOT part of the Rust Belt, that J-town will be "booming" again someday, etc.. Please feel free to add.
I don't know what I could add, as you have stated things very well. What I encountered over the 41 years that I lived in the area was that people do not want anything to change. I think this is the reason Old Jack has been elected year after year. I NEVER voted for him however. Another thing I hated was the small town bigotry attitudes I encountered over the years there also. I hated the rudeness from people at the unemployment office. I was treated like dirt and made to feel like my job loss was my fault. I was a non union worker at a small sewing factory.
People there don't want anything to change; they don't like new ideas for their local governments; they do not like new technologies and scoff at new ideas. And worst for me; heaven forbid if I ever wore a mini skirt and walked down a sidewalk in a little town in Indiana or Cambria Counties; I got nasty stares from people sitting on their porches. Johnstown needs to get their mind set into the present and forget trying to bring back the past. Coal mines and steel mills are through. Biggest problem in my opinion(for what its worth) is the high PA taxes.
Craig

Hightstown, NJ

#6 Jul 25, 2007
I lived in Johnstown for a while;---had to leave for lack of work--(got jobs through a union hall)---I miss the Blair/Cambria area but I have to eat and make house payments so I left.

Since: Jan 07

AOL

#8 Aug 4, 2007
The King of Pork wrote:
You Johnstown folks had better start bowing your heads to the new King!
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07216/806972-1...
Good article!!!! Personally, "EMPEROR" is more fitting!
Former J-Towner

Emeryville, CA

#9 Aug 4, 2007
I have to agree with a few posts here...I left Johnstown when I was about 20; I'm 40 now. I go back every so often to visit family, and living in other areas, it's literally like going back in time when I go to Johnstown. The attitude, the fact that very little has changed there; I think that the schools need to do a better job of making kids aware of the opportunity that is out there. I remember when I was in school everything was about vocation; being a mechanic, carpenter, etc., etc. I am told that the education they get is still geared toward this end. As long as people think that there is no way out of Johnstown, that the only way they will make any kind of life is looking for work there and not using their minds to get out and make a career elsewhere, things will forever be the same.

Since: Jan 07

AOL

#11 Aug 4, 2007
Honest Opinion wrote:
There's actually folks over on the T-D forum that blatantly lie about Johnstown's economic situation. They'll get angry at you if you're honest about how bad things are in Johnstown or just generally speak the truth. I'm not sure what's in the kool-aid there but the water has to be coming out of the Little Conemaugh because those folks have polluted minds.
You are not imagining things! I gave up posting on that forum because of the rude and obnoxious responces I got back. All I tried to do was tell them that not every place is like Johnstown and that there are many good jobs and opportunities outside of the area - the entire state! I think it may have been that way as I now live in Las Vegas. Lived in Indiana County PA for 41 years. Thats another problem area.
My x husband worked at the same place for 30 years and was making JUST $10 an hr. The very first job I got when I moved to Las Vegas paid me $15 an hour! It was a nice job selling tour tickets at Hoover Dam. When I tell my friends back there about the difference in wages, they do not want to believe me.
I still like that area of PA, but I don't ever want to live there again. Hope you are doing well where U are! Have a good evening.
Tito Yoosh

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Aug 17, 2007
The Johnstown area is declining dramatically. The city is struggling to bring in new tech corporations to help bring in new jobs but to do that the city would be spending much more than its allotted cap and money that it has reserved. THe busiest sections of Johnstown like downtown and even in the Scalp region of Geistown and Richland, businesses are closing constantly. The ecenomy in Johnstown is in more of a dier need of a boost than the Johnstown mentality. But if you look at the two things, they both can go hand and hand. The taxes and low-paying jobs detear people from coming here and inspire graduates to leave. I myself am 21 and plan on moving in the next year. It's a shame that in 21 years even I have noticed a substantial difference in the economy and the neighborhoods and business districts of the city.

And for the record, the billboard reading "The flood is over, come back." are pathetic especially seeing that the only people in a position to read them already live here.

Western Pennsylvania has great scenery, but sadly a nice view isn't going to pay your bills.
art

East Stroudsburg, PA

#13 Mar 3, 2012
I have lived here most of my 30 years and here is my summation of The armpit of Pennsylvania:

Bad weather: Is always overcast. Grey skys and drizzle all the time. We must have worse weather than Seattle.

Bad economy: Somethin for Nothing Jtown. This is a 2 degree year or less town. If you have an associate degree or less this is the place for you. Get a bachelors gets $11 and hour, a masters $12, a PhD $14. Thats why kids that graduate from UPJ and IUP get out of dodge after graduation.

The girls: Good luck with that..! Fat chicks that think they have options. Fat chicks should have low self esteem (half joking) but they don't around here. In part because every time you go to a club such as the pony or in Indiana,pa at wolfees or in greensburg even, all you will see is fat white chicks getting on black dudes. Try that in southern states, in Miami, ect. Im the wrong color at clubs. The only girls left here after age 22 are the ones knocked up or are single moms. Classy well educated females do not exist here.

crankie people: everybody is miserable here. Thats what happens when your life sucks.

I understand some of this posting will offend, but its my honest opinion based on my experiences in Jtown.

Since: Sep 11

Altoona, PA

#14 Mar 5, 2012
------well,basically.after Bethlehem Steel left,the place went downhill fast------
Ampipe Bulldog

Carlisle, PA

#15 Mar 6, 2012
Johnstown is the largest landfill in the entire Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
The Johnstown Mentality

Groveland, FL

#16 Mar 7, 2012
Unions and Jack Murtha have made Johnstown into the paradise that we know it as today.
my opinion

Houston, TX

#17 May 2, 2012
The Johnstown Mentality wrote:
Unions and Jack Murtha have made Johnstown into the paradise that we know it as today.
If you're in Chicago like your IP says then I wouldn't be criticizing other cities. I have been to that hell hole and you can have it.
Ben

Johnstown, PA

#18 Aug 18, 2012
This town is horrible. There are no good jobs here and the people in general have zero class. Its the toilet bowl of PA. This town started dieing after the '77 flood and as of 2012 it is declared dead. If you drive in any direction...altoona, latrobe/greensburgh, even somerset everything gets a little better. The weather is a few degrees warmer, the grey sky's go away (literally) the girls are more attractive and don't have that screw you, what are you looking at attitude. People don't dress like its 1985. If you want to be successful you have to be in a successful town. People here are miserable and can't stand to see other people move away and succeed. The throw away line is well the cost of living is higher in other places so it doesn't matter that you get $15 an hour for what Johnstown pays $9 for. Don't let the facts get in the way people. This place seemed okay growing up but when your older it sucks. Try going to a club here. If your not a black dude your not getting a white girl. You think I'm joking? Go to the Woodside at the upper bar and tell me that's not true. Try that crap in other major cities. That's all these girls want in this town. Not being racist but come on.
jose menendez

District Heights, MD

#19 Aug 18, 2012
art wrote:
I have lived here most of my 30 years and here is my summation of The armpit of Pennsylvania:
Bad weather: Is always overcast. Grey skys and drizzle all the time. We must have worse weather than Seattle.
Bad economy: Somethin for Nothing Jtown. This is a 2 degree year or less town. If you have an associate degree or less this is the place for you. Get a bachelors gets $11 and hour, a masters $12, a PhD $14. Thats why kids that graduate from UPJ and IUP get out of dodge after graduation.
The girls: Good luck with that..! Fat chicks that think they have options. Fat chicks should have low self esteem (half joking) but they don't around here. In part because every time you go to a club such as the pony or in Indiana,pa at wolfees or in greensburg even, all you will see is fat white chicks getting on black dudes. Try that in southern states, in Miami, ect. Im the wrong color at clubs. The only girls left here after age 22 are the ones knocked up or are single moms. Classy well educated females do not exist here.
crankie people: everybody is miserable here. Thats what happens when your life sucks.
I understand some of this posting will offend, but its my honest opinion based on my experiences in Jtown.
call it like you see it brother, nothing wrong with that...

Since: Dec 10

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#20 Aug 21, 2012
Ben wrote:
This town is horrible. There are no good jobs here and the people in general have zero class. Its the toilet bowl of PA. This town started dieing after the '77 flood and as of 2012 it is declared dead. If you drive in any direction...altoona, latrobe/greensburgh, even somerset everything gets a little better. The weather is a few degrees warmer, the grey sky's go away (literally) the girls are more attractive and don't have that screw you, what are you looking at attitude. People don't dress like its 1985. If you want to be successful you have to be in a successful town. People here are miserable and can't stand to see other people move away and succeed. The throw away line is well the cost of living is higher in other places so it doesn't matter that you get $15 an hour for what Johnstown pays $9 for. Don't let the facts get in the way people. This place seemed okay growing up but when your older it sucks. Try going to a club here. If your not a black dude your not getting a white girl. You think I'm joking? Go to the Woodside at the upper bar and tell me that's not true. Try that crap in other major cities. That's all these girls want in this town. Not being racist but come on.
Johnstown in 2012 is basically made up of the elderly, white trash, and black trash. If you exclude the elderly you can basically say that Johnstown is landfill for vermin. It's an absolute disgrace.
observer

Johnstown, PA

#21 Apr 22, 2014
The Grim Sleeper wrote:
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Johnstown in 2012 is basically made up of the elderly, white trash, and black trash. If you exclude the elderly you can basically say that Johnstown is landfill for vermin. It's an absolute disgrace.
well geuss everyone has the sum of johnstown all wrapped up, johnstown has a chance if they destroy half of the public housing, and create legitimate opportunities for people of any ethnic blood line . and if people didn't have to hear racial slurs coming from groups of people smoking outside during quiting time while you walked to you'r car - then maybe people would enjoy work over foodstamps.

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