Gay marriage commission fails to make recommendation

A special commission appointed by legislative leaders to study same-sex marriage stopped just short in its final report Monday of recommending that the state become the second in the country - after ...

[VermontChristian]

Remember GOD is watching!!!

[One Eye Open]

And watching God is. Watching to see those who judge and condemn. Everyone on this earth is God's creation. So far as I can remember God has created everything he/she wanted to be upon this earth. You are no less than I and no greater than I. We are both equal and a children of God!

[Dubya]

VermontChristian wrote:

Remember GOD is watching!!!

He's also watching YOU. Are you proud of the feelings you have to fellow human beings who may be different than you? Can you rationalize your behavior as a Christian, or have you been influenced by so-called Christians who have their own agenda? Judgement day is coming... I wish you success.

[Vermontis]

Maybe God makes people gay whom he dosent want to procreate????
Either way its not up to us to judge them.

[Will]

[FROM: the 4.21.08 Vt Commission on Family Recognition and Protection Report]:

" Nonetheless, the Commission recommends further study and review of the following areas:

-- What has been the experience of the Massachusetts lesbian and gay couples who have married under Massachusetts law? Are these couples successfully obtaining all of the rights, privileges, and benefits of marriage – under Massachusetts law, federal law, and the laws of other states? Are their marriages more readily understood and more portable than a Vermont civil union?"

[Rick in Kansas]

It wasn't part of the commission's mandate to recommend one way or another on the marriage issue. It was created simply to provide the legislature with the input and information they would need to make that determination themselves...

[Jay S]

VermontChristian wrote:

Remember GOD is watching!!!

He who is without sin may cast the first stone!! Why isn’t any one throwing stones??

[Dubya]

skidsee wrote:

Liberals hate science because science states Gay/bi men are mostly and mainly responsible for AIDS.They will literally run from the room,lightheaded and nauseated when told of data that suggests AIDS does indeed discriminate,nuclear power is not scary and dangerous or men and women have different abilities in math and science.

Guess that's why conservatives just LOVE the "theory" of Creationism/Intelligent Design (same thing); it's so scientific! You really are full of it.

[VermontChristian]

As a Christian and the father of a gay daughter I am not judging or hating anyone, however I do hate the sin.
God's Purpose...Peace and Life
God loves you and wants you to know Him so He can fill you with peace and give you real life -- forever.
The Bible says: because of our Lord Jesus Christ, we live at peace with God (Romans 5:1).
The result of unforgiven sin is death. But God's gift is eternal life given by Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23).
God loved the people of this world so much that He gave His only son, so that everyone who has faith in Him will have eternal life and never die (John 3:16).
Jesus said: "I came so that everyone would have life, and have it in its fullest" (John 10:10).
Since God planned for us to have peace and real life right now, why are so many people hurting or angry inside?
Our Problem...Separation From God
God created us in His own image so we can know Him personally and have a joy-filled life. He did not make us as robots to automatically love and obey Him, but gave us a will and a freedom of choice.
Since the beginning of time, we have chosen to disobey God and go our own willful way. We still make this choice today. This results in separation from God and ends in misery.

[VermontChristian]

The Bible says: All of us have sinned and fallen short of God's holiness (Romans 3:23).
Disobeying God results in being separated from Him.
Our Attempts: They can never unite us with God.
Through the ages, people have tried many ways to bridge this gap and reach God -- without success.
The Bible says: Adam sinned, and that sin brought death into the world. Now everyone has sinned, and so everyone must die (Romans 5:12).
You may think you are on the right road and still end up dead (Proverbs 14:12).
There is only one way to reach God.
God's Remedy...The Cross
Jesus Christ is the only answer to this problem. He is the only one who can bring us back to God. He died on the Cross and rose from the grave, paying the penalty for our sin and bridging the gap between God and people.

[VermontChristian]

The Bible says: There is only one God, and Christ Jesus is the only one who can bring us to God (1 Timothy 2:5).
Christ died once for our sins. An innocent person died for those who are guilty. Christ did this to bring you to God (1 Peter 3:18).
But God showed how much he loved us by having Christ die for us, even though we were sinful (Romans 5:8).
God has provided the only way -- we must make the choice.
Our Response...Give Ourselves to Christ
We must trust Jesus Christ to forgive our sins and determine to obey Him for the rest of our lives. That way we can know God and find peace again.
The Bible says: So you will be saved, if you honestly say, Jesus is Lord, and if you believe with all your heart that God raised Him from death. God will accept you and save you, if you truly believe this.(Romans 10:9-10)
Is there any good reason why you cannot turn your life over to Jesus Christ right now?
How to give your life to Christ:
1. Admit you are a sinner and need forgiveness.
2. Believe that Jesus Christ died for you on the Cross and rose from the grave.
3. Through prayer, confess that Jesus Christ is the only way to God and commit to live for Him for the rest of your life.
What to Pray:
Dear Lord Jesus,
I know that I am a sinner and need your forgiveness. I believe that You died on the cross for my sins and rose from the grave to give me life. I know You are the only way to God so now I want to quit disobeying You and start living for You. Please forgive me, change my life and show me how to know You. In Jesus' name. Amen.
How you can know you are forgiven:
The Bible, God's Word says: You were saved by faith in God, who treats us much better that we deserve. This is God's gift to you, and you have done nothing on your own (Ephesians 2:8).
For those who put their faith in Jesus: He gave them the right to be the children of God... God Himself was the one who made them His children (John 1:12-13).
What do I do Now?
As you draw close to the Lord, He will teach you His ways and give you His strength. There are some practical steps you can take to come closer to God and to allow Him to guide you.
Prayer:
It is important to spend time in prayer every day. Just as you can not grow without eating food each day, so your spirit must be fed in order for growth to occur in our walk with the Lord. The good news is that as children of God we have access to His presence any time we need it. You actually have the right to come before God and to share with Him your intimate thoughts, desires and fears. Prayer is simply talking to your heavenly Father.
Bible Reading:
The Bible is the main way God has chosen to tell us about Himself. Learning what God says in the Bible is a very important part of your new life. As you read His Word, ask God to show you how various passages apply to your life. A good place to start your study is in the Gospel of John in the New Testament. Find an easy to read, modern translation like the New International Version, or the New American Standard then reference it to the King James Version.
Fellowship:
When you gave your life to Jesus Christ, you became a vital part of God's family, the Church. As you get involved in a local church you will receive strength and encouragement from other believers. But you will also give something vital of yourself back to others. This is one reason why being involved in a local church is so important -- and why the Bible says not to neglect meeting together with other believers (Hebrews 10:25).

[VermontChristian]

As you learn about Him through prayer, Bible reading and fellowship with other Christians, God will guide you and give you the wisdom you need for every challenge in life. May God richly bless you as you continue to follow Him.
"What this means is that those who become Christians become new persons. They are not the same anymore, for the old life is gone. A new life has begun!" (2 Corinthians 5:17).
"I write this to you who believe in the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life" (1 John 5:13).
Suggested Reading
The Gospel of John
1 John
The Psalms and Proverbs

[Rick in Kansas]

skidsee wrote:

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I actually read the report from the Vermont Commission on Family Recognition and Protection, did you? You really don't have to answer that question, because I already know that you haven't. The report itself says that it was not part of the commission's mandate to recommend one way or another:
"The Commission's charge does not ask it to make a specific recommendation on whether Vermont should grant gay and lesbian couples access to civil marriage. The Commission believes that making such a recommendation would undercut the purpose
and usefulness of its work and this report. Simply put, we were asked to listen to the
testimony of Vermonters on these issues, to look at the legal issues, and to report on what we found. It is the role of Vermont's policy-makers and elected officials to read and reflect on this report and in their best judgment determine what steps to take in their role as public servants of the people of Vermont. Accordingly, the Commission does not reach that recommendation."

Read for yourself, or in your case it would probably be better to have someone read it to you, as it does contain some awfully big words that you might not understand.
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/WorkGroups/FamilyC...
This part of the report is at the bottom of page 28 and the top of page 29...

Proving you to be an idiot is way too easy because you just provide so much help, but damn if it isn't fun...

[Dubya]

skidsee wrote:

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No,I think you've been reading too much Bill Moyer or don't read at all.It's the Liberal that believes in Darwinism.And if it's true and you're for Fruit(Gay)marriage,then why hasn't Darwinism weeded out those who don't reproduce?Sad,you are such a hypocrite.Bad Liberal,BAD!!Now go read some Ann Coulter.

You didn't even understand what I wrote; talk about idiots. Anyone who listens to Ann Coulter can be excused for having half a mind, though.

[Anthony]

skidsee wrote:

Although they are druids,Liberals masquerade as rationalists,adopting a sneering tone of scientific and moralistic sophistication,which is like being condescended to by Rosie o'Donnel.Liberals hate science because science states Gay/bi men are mostly and mainly responsible for AIDS.They will literally run from the room,lightheaded and nauseated when told of data that suggests AIDS does indeed discriminate,nuclear power is not scary and dangerous or men and women have different abilities in math and science.

You have got to be kidding me ? Crawl out from under your homophobic rock and get your facts straight.

[Jesse in Philly]

Some of you backwards hill billys up there need to get with the times. The era of descrimination is over, and you need to stop justifying your hate through your religion. Seriously, grow up and accept science.

[Dubya]

skidsee wrote:

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Your chest cavity is lighting up,your seat at Applebee's is ready.

Seems like you have a sense of humor (which I find unusual in most "conservatives"). Glad to see it!

[progressive]

skidsee wrote:

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In order to get over my fear of intimidating people like,let us say,movie stars,police officers,politicians,celebriti es and even self-proclaimed retarded "Troll Bashers," I try to imagine them performing oral sex on me.

I *knew* it!

Skidsee, I'm so proud of you for finally leaping out of the closet! You are to be commended for coming forward and expressing yourself as you *truly* are. It's difficult for homosexuals to do that, even still. What with homophobic people running rampant and babbling nonsense everywhere, it's hard to make that judgment call.

I'm glad you defied fear and finally put yourself out there as the proud g4y man that you are! Kudos!

[OMG]

All I NEED TO KNOW I LEARNED AT APPLEBEE'S.

[progressive]

skidsee wrote:

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Oh,stop it.You I caught you laughing.Admit I got you,and believe you me there's more to come.
See,in 3 seconds it takes a 25 foot jungle anaconda to squeeze out your last breath-you got one chance to kill it,one chance to live.For me it was a serious occassion for reflection.Would I ever see my mother again or the angelic faces of the children I taught at our local church's sunday school.And was I crazy to venture into deepest,darkest Africa armed with only a Swiss Army knife? I think not! I mean,how could I refuse after the President of Amnesty International personally asked me rescue Mwat Zambato,a political prisoner of Uganda.My conscience wouldn't have it any other way,no sir!
Anyway,I killed that serpent with 3 quick thrusts from my Swiss Army knife,rescued Mr Zambato and made it back just in time to tell Progressive wimp boy why I was away for a week.Some of us have loftier persuits in life.

And some of us need to:

A) take our meds
B) pull our heads out of our rectums
C) learn how to spell
D) lay off the television a bit
E) lay off the crack pipe

skidsee, I can't wait to see you later this summer. It will be a pleasure watching you make an a55 of yourself.:)