OFFICERS DUI they are human but driving

OFFICERS DUI they are human but driving

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Above the Tall

Bristol, TN

#1 Apr 22, 2014
I think they have to always do the right thing on and off duty what do you think ?
Wait and See

Johnson City, TN

#2 Apr 22, 2014
To answer your question, most cops will tell you they're "on duty" 24/7 so I guess they should act like it. I also think they should be held to a higher standard. "They're only human" is not a valid excuse for poor decision making, if it were our jails would be near empty.

I'm guessing you're talking about the accident involving two off duty officers that crashed on Old State Rt. 34. Last I read alcohol was not definitely shown to be a factor, the article said it may have been a factor which is vague and sensationalistic to say the least. I'm reserving judgement until more of the facts are known.
Golly Gee

Johnson City, TN

#3 Apr 22, 2014
Wait and See wrote:
To answer your question, most cops will tell you they're "on duty" 24/7 so I guess they should act like it. I also think they should be held to a higher standard. "They're only human" is not a valid excuse for poor decision making, if it were our jails would be near empty.
I'm guessing you're talking about the accident involving two off duty officers that crashed on Old State Rt. 34. Last I read alcohol was not definitely shown to be a factor, the article said it may have been a factor which is vague and sensationalistic to say the least. I'm reserving judgement until more of the facts are known.
Well the JC Press confirmed it thru the THP and no seat belt was worn by one and alcohol was a factor. Let's see what internal investigation the Sheriff does on all those deputies who where at the party and mainly any supervisors who were there that let this happen?!
NCTN

Mountain City, TN

#4 Apr 22, 2014
Where does the responsibility end? If it was a cop party then how many others drove drunk that night? Hmmm A bunch of hypocrites if you ask me.
tired of it

Campobello, SC

#5 Apr 22, 2014
Golly Gee wrote:
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Well the JC Press confirmed it thru the THP and no seat belt was worn by one and alcohol was a factor. Let's see what internal investigation the Sheriff does on all those deputies who where at the party and mainly any supervisors who were there that let this happen?!
Yes because it happens often that when someone is driving drunk or intoxicated that we hunt down and arrest wherever they came from. If its a bar then we get gas and BURN IT DOWN.
Do u have any idea how silly you sound??? Cops ARE held to a higher standard. It is why when YOU get arrested u loose a day of work. And when THEY make a bad choice they loose their jobs and everything that go with it.
Its a sad thing to see an officer make a bad/stupid choice and pay with everything that makes them them. So why dont you sit the propaganda down for a little while Mr. Ford and try to remeber what its like to be a COP not a freaking mud slinging politicial dog and get ahold of your cronies and stop trying to use this.
Truth will come out

Johnson City, TN

#6 Apr 22, 2014
NCTN wrote:
Where does the responsibility end? If it was a cop party then how many others drove drunk that night? Hmmm A bunch of hypocrites if you ask me.
How do any of you know it was a cop party? Where did you hear that? All that I have seen it was two cops in a car and alcohol was listed as a factor by using no scientific testing other than "observed" by the THP officer. The THP officer did draw blood and it was sent off to the TBI to be tested. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding. I am reserving judgment until the results of the blood test comes in. My uncle was arrested on a traffic stop by Jonesborough PD ten years ago and blew a 0.0 turns out he had a head injury from the wreck that caused his speech to be slurred and he was found not guilty.
Whatever

Johnson City, TN

#7 Apr 23, 2014
Golly Gee wrote:
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Well the JC Press confirmed it thru the THP and no seat belt was worn by one and alcohol was a factor. Let's see what internal investigation the Sheriff does on all those deputies who where at the party and mainly any supervisors who were there that let this happen?!
Where was it confirmed that no seatbelt was worn?? That is a supposition, not fact. Just because he was thrown from the vehicle is not proof he was not wearing a seatbelt. Seat belts are not infallible. It could have broken or been defective. There hasn't been time for the THP officer investigating to even get his report in much less have it concluded. No BAC is back so no level of intoxication can even be determined, yet. I keep hearing about a party and supervisors being there. This is not confirmed and is only a rumor that is being perpetuated for a negative political campaign. Shame on those who are using this to throw mud and blame people who were not there and cannot oversee the personal lives of all his employees.
Keeping quite

Bristol, TN

#8 Apr 23, 2014
It looks like it was keep quite until they judged the direction the wind was blowing to gage the effects this close to voting . I hope its just a dream and all this didn't happen but it looks like it did . Good lawyers at a great cost can make most things go away ..
Whatever

Johnson City, TN

#9 Apr 23, 2014
Keeping quite wrote:
It looks like it was keep quite until they judged the direction the wind was blowing to gage the effects this close to voting . I hope its just a dream and all this didn't happen but it looks like it did . Good lawyers at a great cost can make most things go away ..
Since it's been all over the news and social media, it has hardly been kept quiet (not quite).
Prep walk

Bristol, TN

#10 Apr 24, 2014
Are rules and procedures for us and one for Officers who put themselves and others at risk different under the current sheriff ?
Whatever

Johnson City, TN

#11 Apr 24, 2014
Prep walk wrote:
Are rules and procedures for us and one for Officers who put themselves and others at risk different under the current sheriff ?
They are harsher for the officers if convicted of a DUI. A normal citizen will do their time, pay, their fine, and go on with their lives. An officer will do their time, pay their fine, and then lose their job, career, and a way to take care of their families. It doesn't matter which Sheriff is in office, that's the law. Situations like this have come up in the past and officers have been fired. Ironically, most of these officers are campaigning for Ford. Is Ford promising them their jobs back? Something to think about. Hmmmmmm!
Golly Gee

Kingsport, TN

#12 Apr 24, 2014
Whatever wrote:
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They are harsher for the officers if convicted of a DUI. A normal citizen will do their time, pay, their fine, and go on with their lives. An officer will do their time, pay their fine, and then lose their job, career, and a way to take care of their families. It doesn't matter which Sheriff is in office, that's the law. Situations like this have come up in the past and officers have been fired. Ironically, most of these officers are campaigning for Ford. Is Ford promising them their jobs back? Something to think about. Hmmmmmm!
I wish you would get your lies straight!! Ford cannot hire officers back that have lost there POST Commission certification or can he hire people with a criminal history and why would he? The current sheriff has people working for him that got their charges swept under the rug and I am sure you know who they are!!
Short sale

Bristol, TN

#13 Apr 24, 2014
The leaders get the credit when things go good they also should get the credit when the officers think they are above the laws they are tasked to enforce at the tax payers expense . They need to be pure and fair about enforcing the laws of TN or pay the price all the way up to the top .
OMG

Antioch, TN

#14 Apr 24, 2014
Short sale wrote:
The leaders get the credit when things go good they also should get the credit when the officers think they are above the laws they are tasked to enforce at the tax payers expense . They need to be pure and fair about enforcing the laws of TN or pay the price all the way up to the top .
So in ur thinking craig ford should have lost his job when freddie segernt did the thinga he did? Or is it different for ford because u believe his lies????
Boss Man

Kingsport, TN

#15 Apr 24, 2014
Short sale wrote:
The leaders get the credit when things go good they also should get the credit when the officers think they are above the laws they are tasked to enforce at the tax payers expense . They need to be pure and fair about enforcing the laws of TN or pay the price all the way up to the top .
That's where it gets sticky with nepotism! If it's your family or your friends family you can't punish them like you could with someone that is not close to you. Everyone knows how it is to work for someone who is the boss and has a relative working under them. If your not with the click, your always on the outside looking in no matter what you do.
in the know

Johnson City, TN

#16 Apr 24, 2014
Golly Gee wrote:
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I wish you would get your lies straight!! Ford cannot hire officers back that have lost there POST Commission certification or can he hire people with a criminal history and why would he? The current sheriff has people working for him that got their charges swept under the rug and I am sure you know who they are!!
I didn't say he could. I know he can't, but with all the lies he has already said one more couldn't hurt. The is no one with charges that I know of at WCSO that had ever been swept under any rug. You need to be better informed. If they were charged they would have done the time. Sheriff Graybeal would never cover up for ANYONE. I didn't call you a liar like you did me, but if the shoe fits....
in the know

Johnson City, TN

#17 Apr 24, 2014
Boss Man wrote:
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That's where it gets sticky with nepotism! If it's your family or your friends family you can't punish them like you could with someone that is not close to you. Everyone knows how it is to work for someone who is the boss and has a relative working under them. If your not with the click, your always on the outside looking in no matter what you do.
You are off topic. This has nothing to do with relatives or nepotism.
Boss Man

Kingsport, TN

#18 Apr 24, 2014
in the know wrote:
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You are off topic. This has nothing to do with relatives or nepotism.
Your off period! Yes it does as this whole thread has to do with if your relatives or friends of the Graybeal administration then you get away with whatever. If your not then you get caught you get left behind!
guest34789

Franklin, NC

#19 Apr 24, 2014
Boss Man wrote:
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Your off period! Yes it does as this whole thread has to do with if your relatives or friends of the Graybeal administration then you get away with whatever. If your not then you get caught you get left behind!
In the REAL world it works the OTHER way. Just like mr ford said its not a private business and general orders must be gone by at all times. Did it ever occur to anyone of you that are spewing this vile filth that the TWO relatives that work there actually have it harder than regular employees? I dont know them but i know HE has worked many many years and my friend says he earned every piece of rank hes gotten.. And shes worked there i dont know how long and my friend that works there says she works her tail off in multiple jobs hasnt ever gotten rank.

So you tell me wheres it at? This great big left behind thing you keep yelling about?
in the know

Johnson City, TN

#20 Apr 24, 2014
Boss Man wrote:
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Your off period! Yes it does as this whole thread has to do with if your relatives or friends of the Graybeal administration then you get away with whatever. If your not then you get caught you get left behind!
Not true. No relative if the Sheriff was involved in the unfortunate crash. You are making it about the Sheriff. These were adults on their time off in their own vehicle. Sheriff Graybeal has always upheld the law no matter who is involved.

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