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Hillbillyboy

United States

#1 Sep 6, 2013
Well, the jobs report got revised downward since it came out shortly ago. The initial hopeful glowing report that the mainstream media released with gusto, has been sharply revised downward, and quietly so.

(Seems like they do that every quarter these days)

It seems that the jobs growth rate now (after the revision) isnt even enough to keep up with population growth. In other words...zero job growth.

(if it isnt enough to keep up with population growth, it actually is a contraction, or loss, of jobs)

But it gets worse...

The Obama labor department is interested in inventing new ways to tweak and spin employment the numbers, so they dont look so bad for Obama. The statistics are tabulated in incredibly deceptive ways.

One way they do this is to just not count people as unemployed after thier benifits are exhausted.

Oh, they are still unemployed. They are just not counted.

The actual job participation numbers are at a 35 year low...

http://bostonherald.com/business/business_mar...

Yup...a 63.2 % job participation rate lowest since 1978, when another liberal democrat (Jimmy Carter) was masterminding another spectacularly unsuccessful economic plan.

And it gets worse, since Obamacare now defines somebody who works 30 hours a week as "fulltime".

(Remember when it used to be 40 hours?, before Obama messed everything up?)

And even the number of part time jobs (29 hours or less) is falling (see top of this post for details)

So, there we go, Obamanomics in a nutshell.

But lets not get too gloomy. We can still admire him on how he is handling the Benghazi scandal (cover up), and the IRS scandal (cover up), and the Fast and Furious scandal (cover up) and the delays and waivers for the ruling elite to spare them from Obamacare,..oh yes,and his brilliant handling of the Syria "Redlines".

Obamanomics...a study in planned (and predictable) failure, from the failed policy of the worst President in American history..
Fact Is

United States

#2 Sep 8, 2013
Labor force participation is at the lowest point since the malaise of the Carter presidency. President Obama’s economic policies have guaranteed a lower standard of living for Americans.

Prospects are grim for their return to gainful employment because the economy refuses to grow under Obamanomics.
A recent report by Gordon Green and John Coder of Sentier Research paints the disturbing picture. On the whole, we’re less well off than we were 13 years ago. Our median income, currently $52,000, is 7 percent lower than it was in 2000, using constant dollars. It’s an especially tough punch in the gut to our youth, who’ve seen nearly 10 percent of their income evaporate. Nearly every other demographic category — married or single, man or woman — has been hit.
97% of new jobs in 2013 have been part time

Obama is an ideological Marxist. Communism sucks on all levels. This core utopian ideology has already murdered and starved billions to death , plenty of examples for anyone to see. Obama care for example was always about government control of lives and has nothing to do with health care, jobs , lower cost , the economy or anything else other than control. Figure it out , time you wake up and revolt.
billyboy

Abingdon, VA

#3 Sep 8, 2013
Another public service message from the folks at Faux news
Hillbillyboy

United States

#4 Sep 9, 2013
billyboy wrote:
Another public service message from the folks at Faux news
Care to comment on these other news sources (non-fox news) that are saying much the same thing as Fox news about Obamas failed economic plans?

Just jump right in and make some excuses for him...

Or, how about the top 25 Obama excuses for the failed economy?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/9147/top-25...

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0403...

How about analysis by experts of his economic speeche?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-dissect-ob...

Or the failed energy policy of Obamanomics?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57597966/...

There are many others that do not come from Fox news. But we will stop with these.

You wont read them anyway, and have proven yourself unwilling to provide any kind of rebuttal beyond a one-liner (usually laced with profanity, or the tired ole "Blame Bush and Fox News" reply).

But, others will read them, and they will know that you cannot make a serious defense of Obamas failed economic policies.
for billboys blind sheep

United States

#5 Sep 9, 2013
billyboy wrote:
Another public service message from the folks at Faux news
"What is more worrisome than the fact that the United States has an inadequate president, is that the public still accords the incumbent a significant degree of support. If the American people, who have responded to intelligent leadership so often within living memory, has become so morally obtuse that it buys into this flimflam, the problem is more profound than I imagined." -- Conrad Black

Collapse of American Influence Recalls Disintegration of Soviet Union, Fall of France - The New York Sun
Hillbilly Man

United States

#6 Sep 9, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>Care to comment on these other news sources (non-fox news) that are saying much the same thing as Fox news about Obamas failed economic plans?

Just jump right in and make some excuses for him...

Or, how about the top 25 Obama excuses for the failed economy?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/9147/top-25...

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/0403...

How about analysis by experts of his economic speeche?

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/experts-dissect-ob...

Or the failed energy policy of Obamanomics?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57597966/...

There are many others that do not come from Fox news. But we will stop with these.

You wont read them anyway, and have proven yourself unwilling to provide any kind of rebuttal beyond a one-liner (usually laced with profanity, or the tired ole "Blame Bush and Fox News" reply).

But, others will read them, and they will know that you cannot make a serious defense of Obamas failed economic policies.
1.) You're an ideologue and it's useless trying to argue with an ideologue.

2.) You're an idiot and it's useless trying to argue with an idiot.
Today

United States

#7 Sep 10, 2013
Other than starting wars, President Obama’s Biggest Failure Is Clear: The Economy. President Obama just doesn’t get it. With 24 million Americans struggling for work, anemic economic growth, and 1 in 5 Americans living in poverty, his greatest failure – by far – is his broken promise to fix the economy. Americans know this is his greatest failure, look at the propped up polls even.

Jobs today are in retail, hospitality, restaurants/bars, or part time—all lower wage sectors. This is also part of the economy that has reduced many full-time workers to 29-hour work weeks to avoid the economic pain of Obamacare. The result: statistically more jobs, but lower pay and fewer hours, which damages the economy and hurts working Americans. These 29-hour workers must find new second jobs, just to maintain their income. The new obamacare wave is people having 2-20 hour jobs.
Barack Obama is killing the US economy. The jobs report continues to reflect that. The most worrisome of all, is that In 3 more years, unless he is stopped or his course is changed, he may very well finish the job.
durp

Abingdon, VA

#8 Sep 10, 2013
Today wrote:
Other than starting wars, President Obama’s Biggest Failure Is Clear: The Economy. President Obama just doesn’t get it. With 24 million Americans struggling for work, anemic economic growth, and 1 in 5 Americans living in poverty, his greatest failure – by far – is his broken promise to fix the economy. Americans know this is his greatest failure, look at the propped up polls even.
Jobs today are in retail, hospitality, restaurants/bars, or part time—all lower wage sectors. This is also part of the economy that has reduced many full-time workers to 29-hour work weeks to avoid the economic pain of Obamacare. The result: statistically more jobs, but lower pay and fewer hours, which damages the economy and hurts working Americans. These 29-hour workers must find new second jobs, just to maintain their income. The new obamacare wave is people having 2-20 hour jobs.
Barack Obama is killing the US economy. The jobs report continues to reflect that. The most worrisome of all, is that In 3 more years, unless he is stopped or his course is changed, he may very well finish the job.
What wars did he start?
Hillbillyboy

United States

#9 Sep 10, 2013
durp wrote:
<quoted text>
What wars did he start?
Well, he talked himself into a corner with his silly "Red Lines" talk on Syria. Here is his "Redlines" talk...



And when push came to shove, he wet himself and panicked.

He couldnt put together an international coalition to bomb as much as an outhouse in Syria. He never even made an attempt to reach out to the people (let alone our allied people) to support a war (instead, he went golfing as our "coalition" dried up and our allies fled.

(But I suppose that he had a good score on his golf game?)

And when he realized (eventually) that our allied coalition had disbanded, he wet himself again, panicked again, and passed the buck on to Congress.

And when reporters asked him about the "Redlines", he then actually had the dishonesty to say that he never set the "Redlines" regarding Syria. Here is his "I didnt set any Red Lines" talk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

So, Obama says that he didnt set the redlines, the world did. Hmm...right?

Was it the same "world" that refused to be part of the coalition to bomb Syria? I dont remember hearing of any other national leader in the world mention anything about "Redlines".

If the "world" (whomever that may mean?) were the ones who set the redlines, then why are there only American Naval ships in the area threatening to bomb Syria?

Where exactly, is "the world" in all of this?

(All we can see of the world in this, is that they want no part of it)

Oh, Obama also is trying to pass the blame on to Congress now. But...Congress hasnt even approved the use of force, and it looks like they arent going to.

So, it was Obama, and Obama alone, that used the "Redlines" talk. He must take all of the blame.

And now, it looks like Vladimir Putin has outsmarted Obama. He has pretty much stymied Obama now, so that Obama would have to jump over an unreachable standard of aggression in the eyes of "the world" in order to strike Syria.

So, Obama tried to start a war he had no intention of following through with and actually winning. But he couldnt even do that right.

There we go, Obama cant even rattle a sabre convincingly. Another Obamamess.

And the liberals will, of course, blame it all on Bush and Fox News...and Congress...and "the world", and the garbage man...and asteroids...and people using ATM machines...and Bush..and Fox News...anybody but Obama.

But I think now that most people are waking up and seeing that Obamas game is nothing more that one of blaming everyone and everything else for his failures.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#10 Sep 10, 2013
Hillbilly Man wrote:
<quoted text>
1.) You're an ideologue and it's useless trying to argue with an ideologue.
2.) You're an idiot and it's useless trying to argue with an idiot.
If your position was a valid one, you could defend it with something other than insults and attacks.

But since you have nothing to refute these news links with, I conclude that you are defeated, and that you do, deep down, know and understand that Obamas policies are a disaster.
idiot

Abingdon, VA

#11 Sep 10, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, he talked himself into a corner with his silly "Red Lines" talk on Syria. Here is his "Redlines" talk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XEg8XFRc-LcXX
And when push came to shove, he wet himself and panicked.
He couldnt put together an international coalition to bomb as much as an outhouse in Syria. He never even made an attempt to reach out to the people (let alone our allied people) to support a war (instead, he went golfing as our "coalition" dried up and our allies fled.
(But I suppose that he had a good score on his golf game?)
And when he realized (eventually) that our allied coalition had disbanded, he wet himself again, panicked again, and passed the buck on to Congress.
And when reporters asked him about the "Redlines", he then actually had the dishonesty to say that he never set the "Redlines" regarding Syria. Here is his "I didnt set any Red Lines" talk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
So, Obama says that he didnt set the redlines, the world did. Hmm...right?
Was it the same "world" that refused to be part of the coalition to bomb Syria? I dont remember hearing of any other national leader in the world mention anything about "Redlines".
If the "world" (whomever that may mean?) were the ones who set the redlines, then why are there only American Naval ships in the area threatening to bomb Syria?
Where exactly, is "the world" in all of this?
(All we can see of the world in this, is that they want no part of it)
Oh, Obama also is trying to pass the blame on to Congress now. But...Congress hasnt even approved the use of force, and it looks like they arent going to.
So, it was Obama, and Obama alone, that used the "Redlines" talk. He must take all of the blame.
And now, it looks like Vladimir Putin has outsmarted Obama. He has pretty much stymied Obama now, so that Obama would have to jump over an unreachable standard of aggression in the eyes of "the world" in order to strike Syria.
So, Obama tried to start a war he had no intention of following through with and actually winning. But he couldnt even do that right.
There we go, Obama cant even rattle a sabre convincingly. Another Obamamess.
And the liberals will, of course, blame it all on Bush and Fox News...and Congress...and "the world", and the garbage man...and asteroids...and people using ATM machines...and Bush..and Fox News...anybody but Obama.
But I think now that most people are waking up and seeing that Obamas game is nothing more that one of blaming everyone and everything else for his failures.
hey dumbshit, the Syrian crisis isn't a war. And I know it burns you dickhead righties up that Obama has successfully brought the crisis toward a positive conclusion (i.e. Assad not gassing his people any more and not one shot fired!).
Neighbor

Kingsport, TN

#12 Sep 10, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>Well, he talked himself into a corner with his silly "Red Lines" talk on Syria. Here is his "Redlines" talk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XEg8XFRc-LcXX

And when push came to shove, he wet himself and panicked.

He couldnt put together an international coalition to bomb as much as an outhouse in Syria. He never even made an attempt to reach out to the people (let alone our allied people) to support a war (instead, he went golfing as our "coalition" dried up and our allies fled.

(But I suppose that he had a good score on his golf game?)

And when he realized (eventually) that our allied coalition had disbanded, he wet himself again, panicked again, and passed the buck on to Congress.

And when reporters asked him about the "Redlines", he then actually had the dishonesty to say that he never set the "Redlines" regarding Syria. Here is his "I didnt set any Red Lines" talk...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

So, Obama says that he didnt set the redlines, the world did. Hmm...right?

Was it the same "world" that refused to be part of the coalition to bomb Syria? I dont remember hearing of any other national leader in the world mention anything about "Redlines".

If the "world" (whomever that may mean?) were the ones who set the redlines, then why are there only American Naval ships in the area threatening to bomb Syria?

Where exactly, is "the world" in all of this?

(All we can see of the world in this, is that they want no part of it)

Oh, Obama also is trying to pass the blame on to Congress now. But...Congress hasnt even approved the use of force, and it looks like they arent going to.

So, it was Obama, and Obama alone, that used the "Redlines" talk. He must take all of the blame.

And now, it looks like Vladimir Putin has outsmarted Obama. He has pretty much stymied Obama now, so that Obama would have to jump over an unreachable standard of aggression in the eyes of "the world" in order to strike Syria.

So, Obama tried to start a war he had no intention of following through with and actually winning. But he couldnt even do that right.

There we go, Obama cant even rattle a sabre convincingly. Another Obamamess.

And the liberals will, of course, blame it all on Bush and Fox News...and Congress...and "the world", and the garbage man...and asteroids...and people using ATM machines...and Bush..and Fox News...anybody but Obama.

But I think now that most people are waking up and seeing that Obamas game is nothing more that one of blaming everyone and everything else for his failures.
You didn't answer durp's question. All you did was deflect, obfuscate and lie. In other word's -- your usual method of handling debate. No matter what comeback you have, or what right-wing talking points you link to, you cannot refute that. Durp's question and your response are already published. Good day to you, sir.
President of lies

United States

#13 Sep 10, 2013
durp wrote:
<quoted text>
What wars did he start?
Libya was O's war. What about letting 4 Americans fight for their lives for 20 hours while O was not going to be bothered cause he had a fundraiser to go to next day? Remember that?

and Hitlery "what difference does it make now"?

Thanks to O Russia and China are now the in charge super powers.
Hey idiot

United States

#14 Sep 10, 2013
idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
hey dumbshit, the Syrian crisis isn't a war. And I know it burns you dickhead righties up that Obama has successfully brought the crisis toward a positive conclusion (i.e. Assad not gassing his people any more and not one shot fired!).
Syria is at war, Libya was war, but you libs still think Vietnam was just a democrat led conflict that got 58000 Americans killed and thousands more maimed for life. As of TODAY, Assad went right back to bombing and shooting people with bullets and bombs as usual but this is OK per big O and our present community organizer regime.
You do live up to your name.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#15 Sep 10, 2013
idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
hey dumbshit, the Syrian crisis isn't a war. And I know it burns you dickhead righties up that Obama has successfully brought the crisis toward a positive conclusion (i.e. Assad not gassing his people any more and not one shot fired!).
Um, you liberals are wrong again, as per usual.

Russia is behind this "Peace" deal (not Obama). It was Putins initiative to trap Obama in John Kerrys own stupid and under thought words (as per usual) that came from his usual running of the mouth without thinking.

The Russians are involved (running things) now, and the "Peace deal" is an all Russian show.

Its not too hard to guess how it really will go.

Assad will nominally (on paper) place his chemical weapons under the control (on paper, at least) of Russian technicians in Syria.

(The weapons will never leave Syria, or ever really not be under Assads control)

Um...who do you think gave Assad those chemical weapons to start with?

And besides, what if (rather...when) chemical weapons are used again in Syria, Assad can play his trump card now (that Obama just gave him) and say..."Hey, look, it wasnt me! Ive already placed all my chemical weapons under UN (Russian) controll. It was the rebels that did it".

So the world will blame the rebels, if/when Assad uses chemical weapons again.

What will Obama do then? Bomb the rebels?

See how Obama is not in control of the situation?

See how nothing is really solved?

See how the future use of chemical weapons in Syria is virtually assured now?

But, it dont matter. Obama and the libs have a way out to protect Obamas image. And that is all that this was ever about anyway.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#16 Sep 10, 2013
Now, back to Obamanomics...

Obama is hitting the economy with a Tsunami of more (and ever more agressive) regulations.

The result is the driving away of Capital. You know...money?

The stuff that fuels economic activity and recovery?

Here is an excerpt from a link that explains it...

"There are many reasons why investors are choosing to put their money in places other than the United States. Developing countries are growing faster, 95 percent of the world’s population lives outside the U.S., and other countries are embracing free markets for the first time. But, as Cato scholar Daniel Ikenson notes in a new paper, some of that decline in investment is also due to the deteriorating business climate in the U.S. As recently as 2000, the U.S. ranked second in the annual Economic Freedom of the World Report. It fell to eighth by 2005, and all the way to 18th after just four years under Obama. The main driver of the fall is heightened regulation.….

According to the Heritage Foundation, Obama has inflicted nearly $70 billion worth of regulatory burdens on the U.S. economy since he was sworn into office, including $23.5 billion in new regulatory costs in 2012 alone. That number will only increase as Dodd-Frank and Obamacare come online. Obama’s “war on coal” is also inflicting hundreds of billions in new regulatory costs."

And that came from here...

http://lonelyconservative.com/2013/09/obamas-...

So now that we have explained yet another of ther failed policies of Obama, it is time for the liberal trolls to come and blame Bush and Fox news, and sling a few insults and one liners in our direction.

But, we know the truth, dont we fellow conservatives?
idiot

Abingdon, VA

#17 Sep 10, 2013
Hey idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
Syria is at war, Libya was war, but you libs still think Vietnam was just a democrat led conflict that got 58000 Americans killed and thousands more maimed for life. As of TODAY, Assad went right back to bombing and shooting people with bullets and bombs as usual but this is OK per big O and our present community organizer regime.
You do live up to your name.
Not gassing people is he? Whats your solution to this crisis you brain trust?
hey billyboy

United States

#18 Sep 10, 2013
billyboy wrote:
Another public service message from the folks at Faux news
There's no need to make up a single thing about Obama - he provides more than enough ammunition. You're just too blind, or too racist, to see or admit it.

billyboy, you are a typical short sighted liberal who hasn't got a clue what fiscal and Constitutional conservatives such as myself stand for, and how in fact our ideals very much serve to foster better standards of living and greater wealth for everyone.

These are the very ideals that allowed America to build the strongest middle class in the world, and to become the greatest nation in the world. Our poor have about 1/3rd more living space than the middle class in the EU, and far more personal property and services such as cars, TV's, cell phones, computers, etc.

Conservative ideals are what this nation was founded on, and what allowed us to develop about the best standard of living anywhere, the greatest scientific, technological and industrial bases, and the most free and open society to exist and last for any length of time.

You want liberal policies and unions? billyboy their claims all sound great, don't they? Well, my friend, simply take a good hard look at Detroit. That's what liberal policies and strong unions result in, every time. It's a wasteland fraught with violent crime and no city services anymore. It's got HALF the population it had in it's heyday, only something like 25% of kids even managing to make grade standards and half dropping out entirely, and crime as bad as the worst third world nations.

That's what you want to turn all of America info, one huge Detroit.

In fact, under Reagan the middle class utterly flourished. Under Clinton, who was dragged back to the middle kicking and screaming by Republican control of congress, the middle class and poor did ok. Under Bush the income inequality was flat, plateaued. Under your hero Obama, income inequality has skyrocketed.

Under Obama poverty levels, welfare roles, disability roles, food stamp use, unemployment, has all skyrocketed and stayed at historically high levels. Young black men have about a 40% unemployment rate. A vast number of people have dropped out of the middle class into poverty. And for the first time ever - EVER - middle class incomes have actually fallen.

In fact it is your short sighted liberal policies that kill the poor and keep them poor, that decimate the middle class, and that result in lower wages for all while increasing the wealth of the richest.

Try for once billyboy looking at actual outcomes instead of merely the feel good up front promises and empty rhetoric. And stop soaking up the hard left liberal talking points lies as if they were gospel, stop demonizing others simply because you don't understand their position, and learn about what the other side actually stands for and WHY.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#19 Sep 10, 2013
Well, not everything is down under Obama. The poverty rate is up...

http://the-american-journal.com/census-us-pov...

In fact, it has swelled under Obama. In fact, its the highest (46 millions) since the Census has been tracking the poverty rate.

And with Obamacare killing jobs faster than you can dial the food stamp number on your Obamaphone, I think we are set to see the economic crash pretty soon that will look a lot like 1929 all over again.

Obamacare at work killing jobs...

http://blog.heritage.org/2013/03/11/ten-stori...

Obama, wrecking the economy, a muddled foreign policy, taking away freedoms and making us into a police state, and making heart wrenching poverty the new norm.

Socialism sucks.
More Facts

United States

#20 Sep 16, 2013
http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/

Something for the sheep to read daily.

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