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just wondering

Newport, TN

#1 Aug 18, 2008
Subject: Johnson City Honda POW/MIA Flag Retutned!!!!!!!!
As most of you know, TN4 presented a POW Flag to Johnson City Honda a couple of months ago. RT TN 4 along with Church Bros. Inc. are co-sponsor for bringing the Vietnam Memorial Wall to Johnson City next June. We are actively seeking sponsorships {money} to pay for the expense of bringing the Wall here. A volunteer entered Johnson City Honda this week to ask if they would be interested in sponsoring the Wall. Owner, Joe Trujillo looked at the info, threw it into the trash and said "I'm not supporting these DAMN Vets".
Yesterday Mark Paul and I tried to see Joe twice with no luck. His personal secretary asked if we would like to make an appointment! We had an appointment set for 9:00 a.m. this morning to meet with Mr. Trujillo but at 8:40 a.m. my phone rang. It was Joe's secretary saying "bad news, Mr. Trujillo refuses to meet with you". I thanked her for her efforts. Mark Paul, Debbie Beeson and myself went to the dealership and asked for the Flag back and explained to his secretary that Joe did not deserve to fly the FLAG when he has that kind of attitude toward our Veterans.
SO: the Flag is in our possession!
ALSO: there will be a peaceful demonstration in the median outside Johnson City Honda on Saturday August 23rd starting at 9:30 a.m.
Please spread the word to all Veterans Groups to join in to let Mr. Trujillo know that we HEAR him loud and clear.
Rick Strader
President RT TN 4
Rod Hensley

United States

#2 Aug 19, 2008
I can't comment on Joe's alleged comment, but I can comment on his character and it's outstanding and one I aspire to achieve. Whether true or false it sounds like a smear campaign.
John Hames

Johnson City, TN

#3 Aug 19, 2008
I sent a comment to their web page site www.johnsoncityhonda.com we will see if they reply.
just wondering wrote:
Subject: Johnson City Honda POW/MIA Flag Retutned!!!!!!!!
As most of you know, TN4 presented a POW Flag to Johnson City Honda a couple of months ago. RT TN 4 along with Church Bros. Inc. are co-sponsor for bringing the Vietnam Memorial Wall to Johnson City next June. We are actively seeking sponsorships {money} to pay for the expense of bringing the Wall here. A volunteer entered Johnson City Honda this week to ask if they would be interested in sponsoring the Wall. Owner, Joe Trujillo looked at the info, threw it into the trash and said "I'm not supporting these DAMN Vets".
Yesterday Mark Paul and I tried to see Joe twice with no luck. His personal secretary asked if we would like to make an appointment! We had an appointment set for 9:00 a.m. this morning to meet with Mr. Trujillo but at 8:40 a.m. my phone rang. It was Joe's secretary saying "bad news, Mr. Trujillo refuses to meet with you". I thanked her for her efforts. Mark Paul, Debbie Beeson and myself went to the dealership and asked for the Flag back and explained to his secretary that Joe did not deserve to fly the FLAG when he has that kind of attitude toward our Veterans.
SO: the Flag is in our possession!
ALSO: there will be a peaceful demonstration in the median outside Johnson City Honda on Saturday August 23rd starting at 9:30 a.m.
Please spread the word to all Veterans Groups to join in to let Mr. Trujillo know that we HEAR him loud and clear.
Rick Strader
President RT TN 4
John Hames

Johnson City, TN

#4 Aug 19, 2008
This is the Reply Sound like a hoax to me.
John
Being raised as a "military brat" and moving from post to post, I must admit that the e-mail that has been being sent around has been very difficult.
After my meeting with the RT 4 and the Wall committee, I feel both left with a very positive feeling about each other, I ONLY hope that this e-mail is broadcast with the same flurry as the one that had the false and factitious quotes.
Please read below
Joe Trujillo
Johnson City Honda
jtrujillo@johnsoncityhonda.com
2806 North Roan Street
Johnson City, TN 37601
www.johnsoncityhonda.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rick strader [mailto:fullmooncoyote@yahoo.c om]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:08 PM
To: JOE TRUJILLO
Subject: Fw: Johnson City Honda
Joe,This email was sent this afternoon and I wanted you to have a copy.Thank you for a productive meeting today.I will see you tomorrow with your POW/MIA flag.Sincerely,Rick Strader
--- On Mon, 8/18/08, rick strader <fullmooncoyote@yahoo.com > wrote:> From: rick strader <fullmooncoyote@yahoo.com >> Subject: Johnson City Honda> To: fullmooncoyote@yahoo.com> Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 3:34 PM
The Vietnam Memorial Moving Wall Committee, RT TN 4representatives and I met with Mr. Joe Trujillo and five ofhis staff this morning and had a heart to heart discussionabout the events of the past week. Mr Joe Trujillo assured us that he has NEVER said anything derogatory regarding Veterans, and in fact has always supported Veterans from allwars as his father served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. Hisbrother was killed in action in Vietnam and his name is onthe Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C. which Joe hasvisited many times. The five staff members who met with us were all Vets including his General Manager, Tom Kelly, a marine himself. They all spoke very highly of Mr. Trujillo and his record of supporting Veterans. We find absolutely no reason to question or doubt this man's word. Mr.Trujillo and his staff have suffered enough grief over thismisunderstanding. Please cease and end all negative action toward Mr. Trujillo and Johnson
City Honda. Please take time to forward this email to all concerned. There will be NO demonstration of any kind on Saturday, August 23.Thank you,Rick StraderPresidentRolling Thunder Tn.
just wondering

Morristown, TN

#5 Aug 19, 2008
That is great news. My father is retired military and I would have hated to see any company deal with somethis this way. I will send this back to the people who had forwarded it to me and let them know this wasn't true.People should never start and send around this kind of email as it can hurt a reputation of anyone.
Yuri

Kingsport, TN

#6 Aug 20, 2008
I certainly can't vouch for the authenticity of the original e-mail, but I can tell you that Johnson City Honda is by far the worst dealership to deal with in this area. Rude salesman, horrible negotiation, and even worse service department. There's another post on here about JC Honda.

I would hope the e-mail isn't true but with their business reputation, who knows?
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#7 Aug 22, 2008
Someone sent this out without getting all the facts and not only hurt Johnson City Honda but veterans and the efforts to bring the Veterans moving wall. I hope the damage done can be corrected.There are unanswered guiestion still remaining .The facts of how this came about need to be told .After slaming this man sending out a e mail is not enough .
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#8 Aug 22, 2008
just wondering wrote:
That is great news. My father is retired military and I would have hated to see any company deal with somethis this way. I will send this back to the people who had forwarded it to me and let them know this wasn't true.People should never start and send around this kind of email as it can hurt a reputation of anyone.
Rolling thunder sent out the e mail
Pi--ed Veteran

Knoxville, TN

#9 Aug 22, 2008
Rick Strader has some explaining to do! First of all I don't believe that someone who would take the time to collect funds for the Vietnam War Memorial Wall and then decide to lie about poor ole JC Honda. I just can't believe it! I'm sure Rick Strader is no idiot considering he is the President of Rolling Thunder Chapter 4. I believe he verified it through the person who originally let the cat out of the bag on JC Honda! It's amazing that just after the incident supposedly happened Joe refused to meet with Rick.(" His personal secretary asked if we would like to make an appointment! We had an appointment set for 9:00 a.m. this morning to meet with Mr. Trujillo but at 8:40 a.m. my phone rang. It was Joe's secretary saying "bad news, Mr. Trujillo refuses to meet with you".) WHY? I believe it was simply because he said it and didn't give a good damn at the time! Then when the Shi* hit the fan Joe wants to cry foul!
My questions are to Rick Strader! Did you or did you not verify the story with the person who originally told it? Why did you take their POWMIA Flag and then give it back? What did Joe tell you to convince you that the person was not telling the truth? Did you expect Joe to honestly admit to making the statement?
Something Stinks about this entire thing! Personally,I think the man made the statement.I'd just like to know why the Rolling Thunder President collapsed like a Jelly Fish out of water after talking to Joe! Simply, I just don't think someone would Pick JC Honda and poor ole Joe to lie about. Further when people get preachers speaking on their behalf, and start screaming about family members who were patriots it sends up red flags in my mind. Benedict Arnold was a great Patriot until he turned traitor! Mr. Strader you caused this mess it's up to you to inform the community if it was a lie or you just jelly fished! Which is it?
pi--ed vet

Knoxville, TN

#10 Aug 22, 2008
just wondering wrote:
Subject: Johnson City Honda POW/MIA Flag Retutned!!!!!!!!
As most of you know, TN4 presented a POW Flag to Johnson City Honda a couple of months ago. RT TN 4 along with Church Bros. Inc. are co-sponsor for bringing the Vietnam Memorial Wall to Johnson City next June. We are actively seeking sponsorships {money} to pay for the expense of bringing the Wall here. A volunteer entered Johnson City Honda this week to ask if they would be interested in sponsoring the Wall. Owner, Joe Trujillo looked at the info, threw it into the trash and said "I'm not supporting these DAMN Vets".
Yesterday Mark Paul and I tried to see Joe twice with no luck. His personal secretary asked if we would like to make an appointment! We had an appointment set for 9:00 a.m. this morning to meet with Mr. Trujillo but at 8:40 a.m. my phone rang. It was Joe's secretary saying "bad news, Mr. Trujillo refuses to meet with you". I thanked her for her efforts. Mark Paul, Debbie Beeson and myself went to the dealership and asked for the Flag back and explained to his secretary that Joe did not deserve to fly the FLAG when he has that kind of attitude toward our Veterans.
SO: the Flag is in our possession!
ALSO: there will be a peaceful demonstration in the median outside Johnson City Honda on Saturday August 23rd starting at 9:30 a.m.
Please spread the word to all Veterans Groups to join in to let Mr. Trujillo know that we HEAR him loud and clear.
Rick Strader
President RT TN 4
Rick Strader has some explaining to do! First of all I don't believe that someone who would take the time to collect funds for the Vietnam War Memorial Wall and then decide to lie about poor ole JC Honda. I just can't believe it! I'm sure Rick Strader is no idiot considering he is the President of Rolling Thunder Chapter 4. I believe he verified it through the person who originally let the cat out of the bag on JC Honda! It's amazing that just after the incident supposedly happened Joe refused to meet with Rick.(" His personal secretary asked if we would like to make an appointment! We had an appointment set for 9:00 a.m. this morning to meet with Mr. Trujillo but at 8:40 a.m. my phone rang. It was Joe's secretary saying "bad news, Mr. Trujillo refuses to meet with you".) WHY? I believe it was simply because he said it and didn't give a good damn at the time! Then when the Shi* hit the fan Joe wants to cry foul!
My questions are to Rick Strader! Did you or did you not verify the story with the person who originally told it? Why did you take their POWMIA Flag and then give it back? What did Joe tell you to convince you that the person was not telling the truth? Did you expect Joe to honestly admit to making the statement?
Something Stinks about this entire thing! Personally,I think the man made the statement.I'd just like to know why the Rolling Thunder President collapsed like a Jelly Fish out of water after talking to Joe! Simply, I just don't think someone would Pick JC Honda and poor ole Joe to lie about. Further when people get preachers speaking on their behalf, and start screaming about family members who were patriots it sends up red flags in my mind. Benedict Arnold was a great Patriot until he turned traitor! Mr. Strader you caused this mess it's up to you to inform the community if it was a lie or you just jelly fished! Which is it?
Steven Soles

Knoxville, TN

#11 Aug 22, 2008
Rod Hensley wrote:
I can't comment on Joe's alleged comment, but I can comment on his character and it's outstanding and one I aspire to achieve. Whether true or false it sounds like a smear campaign.
I'm proud of you. As Clint Eastwood once said, " A man has to know his limitations."
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#12 Aug 24, 2008
This is a good example of the hurt we cause when we say and do things without the facts .

Since: Aug 08

Kingsport, TN

#13 Aug 25, 2008
All of your people rushing to defend Mr. "JOHNSON CITY WAY" Trujillo are just plain naive. This guy didn't want to take the time to meet with the veterans group and most likely didn't want to be involved in the project.

Then when the news comes out from the vets that they are taking the fight back to Mr. "No Professionalism" Trujillo in the form of a protest and sending the news out, Joe of course decides that he should show his benevolent side and pretend like he loves the vets and this was all just a big misunderstanding.

Do you people not see that the e-mail that started this all was true? Mr. "Screw the customers" Trujillo only caved when he saw how big of a ruckus was going to be caused because it might affect his business. The fact that Mr. Strader caved in to this douchebag just shows how desperate they are for money and they'll sell their pride for a few dollars.

I'll be making sure that all of the people I know stay away from Johnson City Honda. As for Mr. Strader, I think Rolling Thunder needs new leadership - one with a spine that wont sell out.
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#14 Aug 25, 2008
I am a disabled veteran Mr Strader or Mr Trujillo dont speek for me my pride cant be bought . I hope those who wish to donate to help bring the Moving Wall will doso .The Wall represents something biger than either man HONOR.Dont judge us all by this.
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#15 Aug 25, 2008
people connect Vietnam Vets with Rolling Thunder that being said we deserve to know the truth . This looks bad on all veterans .Fact - Rolling Thunder is not a Veterans organization not all members are vets.We need the facts so we can deside ourselfs you put it out there we didnt.
Ron Dewese

Louisville, KY

#16 Aug 25, 2008
Yuri wrote:
I certainly can't vouch for the authenticity of the original e-mail, but I can tell you that Johnson City Honda is by far the worst dealership to deal with in this area. Rude salesman, horrible negotiation, and even worse service department. There's another post on here about JC Honda.
I would hope the e-mail isn't true but with their business reputation, who knows?
I have know Joe since his Greentree Toyota days and he was a prick then and from what I hear he's still a prick. He has always had a serious problem with his ego and this is not the first time it has gotten him into trouble. He has a reputation for treating his employees very bad. I have know idea if this storry is true or not but it souunds like something the jerk would do.
Sammy

Knoxville, TN

#17 Aug 26, 2008
Does anyone know how to get into touch with the Rolling Thunder Crowd or their president? They Started this mess. I'd like to hear what their President has to say about it all! Sounds to me like they need new leadership! The veterans in the area took another shot to the keester! If it's true stand up and be a man! If it's not..........STAND UP AND BE A MAN! It's either the TRUTH OR A LIE! Either way ROLLING THUNDER SHOULD CHANGE THEIR NAME TO SHAKE RATTLE & ROLL! Seems their org lost its spine somewhere along the way! Either STAND UP AND TELL THE TRUTH OR FADE AWAY! There are enough pretend VET orgs and groups in this country!
Veteran

Kingsport, TN

#18 Aug 26, 2008
Sammy wrote:
Does anyone know how to get into touch with the Rolling Thunder Crowd or their president? They Started this mess. I'd like to hear what their President has to say about it all! Sounds to me like they need new leadership! The veterans in the area took another shot to the keester! If it's true stand up and be a man! If it's not..........STAND UP AND BE A MAN! It's either the TRUTH OR A LIE! Either way ROLLING THUNDER SHOULD CHANGE THEIR NAME TO SHAKE RATTLE & ROLL! Seems their org lost its spine somewhere along the way! Either STAND UP AND TELL THE TRUTH OR FADE AWAY! There are enough pretend VET orgs and groups in this country!
Contact local chapter Rolling Thunder at - www.rollingthundertn4.com . I hope get a responce and answer if you do let us all know .
Sammy

Knoxville, TN

#19 Sep 2, 2008
It's clear Rolling Thunder needs new Leadership if this thing was spread around and wasn't true. Which is it? True or Not TRUE? ROLLING THUNDER?
veteran

Kingsport, TN

#20 Sep 3, 2008
When thoughts of Rolling Thunder comes to mind most connect Vietnam Veterans with them we have had a image problem for years and still do .This "blunder"hurts I dont think Rolling Thunder understands that or dont care .Some of us have spent allot of time trying to improve our image Rolling Thunder has a responcabilty to do the same .I have friends that are members of Rolling Thunder and they want the truth too.

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