Evolution vs Bible...Which is correct?
hillbillyboy

Johnson City, TN

#215 Oct 25, 2012
Sumerianchic wrote:
If one does not believe the science, why do they continue to see doctors for their ailments? Why not just pray and when the True miracle happens, that will be all the proof us non believers need. Oh wait, you do run to the doctor whenever you need a real cure. As far as hillbily goes with his radio isotopes and sounding extremely smart, if i may say so, I can assure you that he would beg that doctor to do that new fangled radio isotope stuff to get rid of that cancer. So Hillybilly, If science is flawed why would you ever believe in any science? You like to pick and choose what you believe, just like a christian to tell everyone else they are wrong. YOUR Jesus did preach that way and neither should you.
You are building a straw man argument. I never said that science was flawed.

I said the science (pseudo-science) that supports evolution theory is flawed. And then I explained it and proved it.

And the atheist responded with philosophy, red herrings, crude attacks, and straw man arguments (such as yours).

Are there any atheist out there who are even capable of carrying on a discussion about evolution, and staying on track?

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#216 Oct 25, 2012
hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
You are building a straw man argument. I never said that science was flawed.
I said the science (pseudo-science) that supports evolution theory is flawed. And then I explained it and proved it.
And the atheist responded with philosophy, red herrings, crude attacks, and straw man arguments (such as yours).
Are there any atheist out there who are even capable of carrying on a discussion about evolution, and staying on track?
I have tried several occasions but you never replied and just accused me of being an athiest and evolution something something.

I was just simply asking what version of the bible has you so influenced and asked you about a scenario of being born in the wild, that you believe you still wouldve came to found "jesus" instead of another "religion".

Take Care
Stevester

Southbury, CT

#217 Oct 26, 2012
Christians get angry when people don't buy into their beliefs..
hillbillyboy

Johnson City, TN

#218 Oct 26, 2012
sir unknown wrote:
<quoted text>
I have tried several occasions but you never replied and just accused me of being an athiest and evolution something something.
I was just simply asking what version of the bible has you so influenced and asked you about a scenario of being born in the wild, that you believe you still wouldve came to found "jesus" instead of another "religion".
Take Care
What you keep posting are red herrings that have nothing to do with the OP.

You are not posting anything to do with the science of either evolution or creationism. You are trying to tack the thread off topic with irrelevant questions of philosophy.

Do you have anything to say that is relevant to the scientific discussion of evolution?
hillbillyboy

Johnson City, TN

#219 Oct 26, 2012
Stevester wrote:
Christians get angry when people don't buy into their beliefs..
Do you have anything relevant to say about the science of these issues?

Attacks and insults arent (believe it or not) the same as actual science.

So, can you post something that has anything to do with science?
Stevester

Southbury, CT

#220 Oct 26, 2012
hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have anything relevant to say about the science of these issues?
Attacks and insults arent (believe it or not) the same as actual science.
So, can you post something that has anything to do with science?
Calm down Earl, pray for strength or whatever it is you do, take a deep breath. Don't anger so quickly.. WWJD?
Mr Twister

Southbury, CT

#221 Oct 26, 2012
It was Ancient Aliens people
hillbillyboy

Johnson City, TN

#222 Oct 26, 2012
Stevester wrote:
<quoted text> Calm down Earl, pray for strength or whatever it is you do, take a deep breath. Don't anger so quickly.. WWJD?
So you are just another troll, with nothing useful to add to the thread?
Mr Twister

Southbury, CT

#223 Oct 26, 2012
hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are just another troll, with nothing useful to add to the thread?
I'm not trying to say that it's Aliens, but it's Aliens..
Mr Twister

Southbury, CT

#224 Oct 26, 2012
Ancient scripts show pics of the Virgin Mary being abducted by UFO's.. It's Aliens man, cosmic alien Jews man. They made the pyramids and everything
Elmer Gantry

Johnson City, TN

#225 Oct 26, 2012
YouTube: Why do people laugh at creationists?(part 1)
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Since: May 12

Location hidden

#226 Nov 2, 2012
hillbillybonehead is getting upset because all the free thinkers aren't discussing his horseshit spill about rocks. lol guess everyone that dont believe in the zombie jew is an atheist and/or a troll. worry about your rocks and other shit that doesnt matter but by all means ignore the fact that the poof theory not only sounds stupid but is in fact impossible unlike evolution.
seems the poof theory is flawed like most byble fables. so how bout that boat? and many other ludicrous fables? hey, why not jump in a blue whales gut and ride around for a bit? thats possible right? you first!

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#227 Nov 2, 2012
Elmer Gantry

Johnson City, TN

#228 Nov 2, 2012
The argument of teaching the biblical story of creation (or really any of the ancient creation myths) in public school science classes as a valid alternative to the scientific theory of evolution makes as much sense as teaching students the "stork brings the baby" theory as a valid alternative to teaching human biological reproduction.
intelligent male

Charlotte, NC

#229 Jan 27, 2013
Evolution wins, hands down. LOGIC > FAITH

“The blessings of liberty”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#230 Jan 28, 2013
intelligent male wrote:
Evolution wins, hands down. LOGIC > FAITH
Of course logic wins. Faith isn't logical. Faith is faith. Faith is for people who have been so desperate that they refuse to accept logical ideas. It's for people who will go beyond common sense and logical explanations and trust a feeling a deep seeded belief. The bible wasn't written for logical thinking people it was written to believers. I don't care how much schooling you have or how high your IQ is there are things that can not be explained with science or logic. Very simple little laws like the law of gravity you might be able to explain how it works but you can not explain why in all the vastness of this galaxy the orbit of the moon and the rotation of the earth, you can't explain why it creates a perfect environment to support life and why gravity is at the perfect level. Science can't explain child birth and human intelligence again there has been volume after volume written explaining the how but nobody can explain why it's so perfect. We are so fragile and yet we live comfortably. In a perfect environment.

I'm a man of faith and I look at the "logic" of science and I don't shake my head and disagree with all of it. Some of it is a pretty close guess. However, I can never quite figure out the theory of evolution which apparently, according to other posts on this very thread is a proven theory. I look at the chart that shows all the links and I wonder why there isn't phases in between the links. I mean why don't we see half bird and half fish or half mammal and half reptile??? It seems to me that in the past 300 years or so that man has started recording research that someone would have discovered an animal or a fossils or a skeleton showing the "evolutionary" process. I mean didn't it happen in tiny increments? And if so where's the proof? Or maybe not maybe a fish just laid and egg and it washed up on shore and got buried in the sand and when it hatched it was a bird. But wait doesn't that defy other laws of nature? Oy this logic stuff gets confusing.

Why is it so distasteful to believe "and God made"?

Faith is for those who find no logic in logic.
Booker Phillips

Elizabethton, TN

#231 Jan 28, 2013
Happy Dad wrote:
<quoted text>Of course logic wins. Faith isn't logical. Faith is faith. Faith is for people who have been so desperate that they refuse to accept logical ideas. It's for people who will go beyond common sense and logical explanations and trust a feeling a deep seeded belief. The bible wasn't written for logical thinking people it was written to believers. I don't care how much schooling you have or how high your IQ is there are things that can not be explained with science or logic. Very simple little laws like the law of gravity you might be able to explain how it works but you can not explain why in all the vastness of this galaxy the orbit of the moon and the rotation of the earth, you can't explain why it creates a perfect environment to support life and why gravity is at the perfect level. Science can't explain child birth and human intelligence again there has been volume after volume written explaining the how but nobody can explain why it's so perfect. We are so fragile and yet we live comfortably. In a perfect environment.
I'm a man of faith and I look at the "logic" of science and I don't shake my head and disagree with all of it. Some of it is a pretty close guess. However, I can never quite figure out the theory of evolution which apparently, according to other posts on this very thread is a proven theory. I look at the chart that shows all the links and I wonder why there isn't phases in between the links. I mean why don't we see half bird and half fish or half mammal and half reptile??? It seems to me that in the past 300 years or so that man has started recording research that someone would have discovered an animal or a fossils or a skeleton showing the "evolutionary" process. I mean didn't it happen in tiny increments? And if so where's the proof? Or maybe not maybe a fish just laid and egg and it washed up on shore and got buried in the sand and when it hatched it was a bird. But wait doesn't that defy other laws of nature? Oy this logic stuff gets confusing.
Why is it so distasteful to believe "and God made"?
Faith is for those who find no logic in logic.
Very well stated. I have alwyas been intrigued by scientists' abilities to provide explanations for most natural occurrences, yet have never definitively been able to provide adequate evidence proving how man came to exist. I guess what has intrigued me the most is how easily non-believers are able to discount the teachings of the Bible, yet are able to give credence to a concept that is constantly refuted.


I guess whether you are are a believer or not, both groups rely on faith to some extent.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Southbury, CT

#232 Feb 2, 2013
Happy Dad wrote:
<quoted text>Of course logic wins. Faith isn't logical. Faith is faith. Faith is for people who have been so desperate that they refuse to accept logical ideas. It's for people who will go beyond common sense and logical explanations and trust a feeling a deep seeded belief. The bible wasn't written for logical thinking people it was written to believers. I don't care how much schooling you have or how high your IQ is there are things that can not be explained with science or logic. Very simple little laws like the law of gravity you might be able to explain how it works but you can not explain why in all the vastness of this galaxy the orbit of the moon and the rotation of the earth, you can't explain why it creates a perfect environment to support life and why gravity is at the perfect level. Science can't explain child birth and human intelligence again there has been volume after volume written explaining the how but nobody can explain why it's so perfect. We are so fragile and yet we live comfortably. In a perfect environment.

I'm a man of faith and I look at the "logic" of science and I don't shake my head and disagree with all of it. Some of it is a pretty close guess. However, I can never quite figure out the theory of evolution which apparently, according to other posts on this very thread is a proven theory. I look at the chart that shows all the links and I wonder why there isn't phases in between the links. I mean why don't we see half bird and half fish or half mammal and half reptile??? It seems to me that in the past 300 years or so that man has started recording research that someone would have discovered an animal or a fossils or a skeleton showing the "evolutionary" process. I mean didn't it happen in tiny increments? And if so where's the proof? Or maybe not maybe a fish just laid and egg and it washed up on shore and got buried in the sand and when it hatched it was a bird. But wait doesn't that defy other laws of nature? Oy this logic stuff gets confusing.

Why is it so distasteful to believe "and God made"?

Faith is for those who find no logic in logic.
That's the most outstanding answer EVER
Miss Information

Kingsport, TN

#233 Feb 21, 2013
I'll tell you what sticks in my craw.........these folk who claim that more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else! It's just one of those myths that have been around and is used ignorantly. Folks, I got news for you: wars are not fought in the name of religion. It's all for profit, power,greed for resources, egotism of leaders, racial hatred, etc. Many will hiss "O, what about the Crusades?" The Crusades were no more a holy war than any other and the casualties are very few in comparison to all other wars. Now, we hear of Jihad....which is nothing more than a quest for dominance. Look at ww1, ww2, Korea, the Crimean wars, the Norman conquests, Napoleonic wars, or any other wars fought since the beginning of time. You will find the root is not in any way connected to religion. The anti Christian sect is just using false information for their fuel.
BS Smelled

Johnson City, TN

#234 Feb 22, 2013
Miss Information wrote:
I'll tell you what sticks in my craw.........these folk who claim that more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else! It's just one of those myths that have been around and is used ignorantly. Folks, I got news for you: wars are not fought in the name of religion. It's all for profit, power,greed for resources, egotism of leaders, racial hatred, etc. Many will hiss "O, what about the Crusades?" The Crusades were no more a holy war than any other and the casualties are very few in comparison to all other wars. Now, we hear of Jihad....which is nothing more than a quest for dominance. Look at ww1, ww2, Korea, the Crimean wars, the Norman conquests, Napoleonic wars, or any other wars fought since the beginning of time. You will find the root is not in any way connected to religion. The anti Christian sect is just using false information for their fuel.
Nice try but the truth is that wars are usually about religion you just need to educate yourself about the "real" history of society (and you will not find it in any bible of any religion). Money, power, and religion go hand and hand and once you realize that little fact then everything else will suddenly make more sense to you. Religion was created by "control freaks" to scare people so they could control them. Politicians use this fear, gloom, and doom strategy all the time just like religions use it.

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