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Our Government is pathetic and it's our fault

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JustMe

Johnson City, TN

#1 Sep 30, 2013
This was a good read-

What if we could change the way our elected officials served their time in office by voting on their pay scale? It would be interesting to see how efficient our congress could actually be if they were forced to do their jobs, right?

For the 2013 calendar year, Congress has already planned to take 239 days off; this seems to be quite disproportional to the number of vacation days the average American employee is granted which is only 13. That is over half of the year that our elected officials have granted themselves while they have yet to approve one single day required time off for the rest of us.

Americans are not required to obtain a certain number of vacation days by the government, yet other countries such as those in the European Union get four weeks mandatory paid vacation. Apparently Congress has decided that they are worthy of paid time off while we all wake up and go to our places of employment and have to do actual work.

The average pay for a United States Senator, according to Senate.gov , is a staggering $174,000 per year of service. These representatives are elected into office by the people to run this country while they allot themselves over half of the year for time off making nearly $73,000 more than a married couple at the high end of the middle class.

On top of their ridiculous salaries, which is provided by the taxpayers, are the health benefits, travel expenses, and other things that we might not have heard of which are provided to Congress. There are funds allocated for things such as a “furniture and furnishing allowance”. Yes, you read that correctly. Congress is allowed $40,000 for state office furniture and or furnishings.—“Each Senator is authorized $40,000 for state office furniture and furnishings for one or more offices, if the aggregate square footage of office space does not exceed 5,000 square feet. The base authorization is increased by $1,000 for each authorized additional incremental increase in office space of 200 square feet.”–(Congressional Salaries and Allowances Report)

Congress gets paid far better than most Americans while doing less than half the work that is expected of them.“We the people” elect these individuals to oversee our government and we expect them to do their jobs, which clearly they are not doing very well. If an American worker wanted to take over half the year off for vacation they would be laughed at and told to get back to work. If Congress decides to do the same thing, not only do they give themselves that time off but WE pay for it. We don’t want to pay taxes for “the takers” in this country and yet some of the worst offenders of “taking” are our elected officials. Congress doesn’t want to provide universal healthcare and yet they have it provided for them on our dime. There are serious matters to be dealt with such as the Sequester and yet instead of formulating some sort of compromise, they went on vacation.

Elected officials need to be held to the same standards as the rest of Americans. Their pay should be based upon results, just like any other job in this great nation. If they choose to do nothing, then they should not be paid for it. Why should we allow them to use our tax dollars to give themselves a vacation especially in a time of crisis when decisions need to be made and policies need to be put into place to solve an issue?

If we don’t do what is expected of us at our place of work, we are reprimanded or fired; this should apply to congress as well.

Contrary to what they may believe about themselves, Congress should not be and exception to the rule. They are not special, but rather elected officials who should be paid based upon performance and allowed the same number of vacation days as the average American. In my opinion, they should also be required to use the same healthcare plan as the rest of America so that they can perhaps gain some perspective.
We the people

United States

#2 Oct 1, 2013
Until 100 million plus march on Washington and demand it nothing changes.
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#3 Oct 1, 2013
Republicans are lame!
Sherry

United States

#4 Oct 1, 2013
Server wrote:
Republicans are lame!
You are demon possessed.
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#5 Oct 1, 2013
I need health care coverage because neither of my jobs provide it. If that's demon possessed then my head is spinning and I'm hurling green pea soup!
Truth

Watauga, TN

#6 Oct 1, 2013
Sherry wrote:
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You are demon possessed.
I know you sherry, and you are demon possessed. Don't matter how much you go to church....you are absolutely LOST
Boston

Watauga, TN

#7 Oct 1, 2013
JustMe wrote:
This was a good read-
What if we could change the way our elected officials served their time in office by voting on their pay scale? It would be interesting to see how efficient our congress could actually be if they were forced to do their jobs, right?
For the 2013 calendar year, Congress has already planned to take 239 days off; this seems to be quite disproportional to the number of vacation days the average American employee is granted which is vacation.
Elected officials need to be held to the same standards as the rest of Americans. Their pay should be based upon results, just like any other job in this great nation. If they choose to do nothing, then they should not be paid for it. Why should we allow them to use our tax dollars to give themselves a vacation especially in a time of crisis when decisions need to be made and policies need to be put into place to solve an issue?
If we don’t do what is expected of us at our place of work, we are reprimanded or fired; this should apply to congress as well.
Contrary to what they may believe about themselves, Congress should not be and exception to the rule. They are not special, but rather elected officials who should be paid based upon performance and allowed the same number of vacation days as the average American. In my opinion, they should also be required to use the same healthcare plan as the rest of America so that they can perhaps gain some perspective.
Very good post. WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. WE ARE TO BLAME. I MEET PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHATS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN SULLIVAN COUNTY, MUCH LESS WASHINGTON.........ITS THEIR DUTY AS AMERICANS TO GIVE A HOOT. BUT ITS NOT JUST WASHINGTON, IT RIGHT HERE. OUR OWN RON RAMSEY (?biggest crook in Tennessee) handed out 18 raises to his staff during a state employee wage freeze that he himself put into place. His little bookkeeper ? She was making $168,000 and he gave her another $7000......... WE NOT ONLY LET THAT HAPPEN, WE RE ELECTED THE THUG OVER AND OVER.... Now we live in one of the worst economic and corrupt areas of the country. THINK GLOBALLY, ACT LOCALLY. UNTIL,WE GET SCUM LIKE RAMSEY OIT OF OFFICE AND BACK TO AUCTIONING OFF FARM ANIMALS, FORGET WASHINGTON,

DAVID HAWK, GREENEVILLE TN, DRUNK ON SUNDAY MORNING PUNCHES HIS WIFE WHILE SHES HOLDING A BABY. THEY REDUCED THE SENTENCE, SLAP ON THE WRIST, AND RE ELECTED The SCUM (no offense to scum).

Phil Roe enters congress worth $1 million. Practices LEGAL INSIDER TRADING. SOMETHING ANYONE ELSE WOULD GO TO FEDERAL PRISON FOR. SO CONGRESS PUT OUT A BILL TO STOP CONGRESSMAN FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. HE VOTED AGAINST IT. HE DOESNT REPRESENT US. HES GOT $3 million man. You people bought the Hokie dokie, and you know what? You're so apathetic that you will re-elect the scum.

I see these men as no different than say THE HELLS ANGELS. They travel in packs, break every law they can find, never fight fair, and they are godless, gutless cowards.

And it's our fault.......... We elected them and continue to.......
Last bastion

Watauga, TN

#8 Oct 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
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I know you sherry, and you are demon possessed. Don't matter how much you go to church....you are absolutely LOST
No reply , sherry?
Hillbillyboy

United States

#9 Oct 6, 2013
Server wrote:
I need health care coverage because neither of my jobs provide it. If that's demon possessed then my head is spinning and I'm hurling green pea soup!
Instead of being willing to see our freedom taken away by socialist, why dont you join the military?

(I did)

After your honorable discharge, you can go to the VA and get coverage as a veteran.

Until the stupid liberals start messing around with your benefits, as they always seem to have some hidden hatred for veterans.

But, anyway, you could do that (join the military) to get your health coverage, instead of supporting some left wing maniac who will see all of our freedoms thrown under the bus of communism.

Whats the matter, not got the guts for it?
PrObama

Columbus, OH

#10 Oct 6, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
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Instead of being willing to see our freedom taken away by socialist, why dont you join the military?
(I did)
After your honorable discharge, you can go to the VA and get coverage as a veteran.
Why would I want to stand in line at the VA with the rest of you fakers who are claiming PTSD? I've got too much self-respect for that.
notafan

Johnson City, TN

#11 Oct 6, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
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Instead of being willing to see our freedom taken away by socialist, why dont you join the military?
(I did)
After your honorable discharge, you can go to the VA and get coverage as a veteran.
Until the stupid liberals start messing around with your benefits, as they always seem to have some hidden hatred for veterans.
But, anyway, you could do that (join the military) to get your health coverage, instead of supporting some left wing maniac who will see all of our freedoms thrown under the bus of communism.
Whats the matter, not got the guts for it?
Possibly you don't know this, but the military has physical requirements and turns down people that don't meet them. Not everyone can get into the military.(Please look up the definitions of communist and socialist and see if you can make a decision as to which would apply to our elected President.)
Sherry

United States

#12 Oct 6, 2013
Server wrote:
I need health care coverage because neither of my jobs provide it. If that's demon possessed then my head is spinning and I'm hurling green pea soup!
John you know, we know you don't have any job. Your pathological lying needs to stop, we all know you. Maybe you are demon possessed!
Would you like for us to arranged a exorcist done on you?
Sherry

United States

#13 Oct 6, 2013
Truth wrote:
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I know you sherry, and you are demon possessed. Don't matter how much you go to church....you are absolutely LOST
Obviously you do not know me nor know anything about the truth.
Are you a follower of your messiah obama or just follow along as his sheep? I have started research and thinking of a documentary on it.
Sherry

United States

#14 Oct 6, 2013
notafan wrote:
<quoted text>Possibly you don't know this, but the military has physical requirements and turns down people that don't meet them. Not everyone can get into the military.(Please look up the definitions of communist and socialist and see if you can make a decision as to which would apply to our elected President.)
Both!
notafan

Johnson City, TN

#15 Oct 6, 2013
According to the news, Boener is announcing his plans for the government to default. No bills can be pain, including our military. Our great nation is gone. Hope the tea party will be happy at their destruction. How very, very sad!
notafan

Johnson City, TN

#16 Oct 6, 2013
*paid*
brenda s crumley 61

Morristown, TN

#17 Oct 7, 2013
well said boston & just me. we are all americans.
Uncle Rhesus

Kingsport, TN

#19 Oct 7, 2013
How can we be to blame when there are no honest candidates from either party to choose from? All you hellbent posters who want a change, I nominate you as the fools who will stand up against the status quo and the powers that be. Everybody has a solution, but none will take the heat, knowing your "supporters" will stab you in the back when it comes down to brass tacks. Shit or get off the pot! I dare any of you keyboard heroes to do more than whine! It is sad but true, fess up. Viva la Revolution, LOL!
Hillbillyboy

United States

#20 Oct 10, 2013
Uncle Rhesus wrote:
How can we be to blame when there are no honest candidates from either party to choose from? All you hellbent posters who want a change, I nominate you as the fools who will stand up against the status quo and the powers that be. Everybody has a solution, but none will take the heat, knowing your "supporters" will stab you in the back when it comes down to brass tacks. Shit or get off the pot! I dare any of you keyboard heroes to do more than whine! It is sad but true, fess up. Viva la Revolution, LOL!
Its a common deceptive trick of the atheist/socialist extremist, to convince the gullible that we might just as well throw up our hands, because everybody is wrong.

That is the thinking of the 1970s.

The point of that sort of thinking is to simply lower the standards of morality that we hold our politicians to. It eliminates the PRESUPPOSITION that elected officials will represent the interest of the nation.

Once that lowering of standards is reached, its far easier for democrats to win, you see. Lower standards of morality is the environment that best suits them.

As for what should we do personally, well, the Tea Party stands on grass roots efforts to convince voters that our way of thinking (which is really just Reagan Republicans) is correct.

So, Im doing what Im supposed to do.

So, leave the phoney socialistic brainwashing thinking of the 1970s behind, and start to think for yourself.

You might find it refreshing?
Uncle Rhesus

Kingsport, TN

#21 Oct 10, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
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Its a common deceptive trick of the atheist/socialist extremist, to convince the gullible that we might just as well throw up our hands, because everybody is wrong.
That is the thinking of the 1970s.
The point of that sort of thinking is to simply lower the standards of morality that we hold our politicians to. It eliminates the PRESUPPOSITION that elected officials will represent the interest of the nation.
Once that lowering of standards is reached, its far easier for democrats to win, you see. Lower standards of morality is the environment that best suits them.
As for what should we do personally, well, the Tea Party stands on grass roots efforts to convince voters that our way of thinking (which is really just Reagan Republicans) is correct.
So, Im doing what Im supposed to do.
So, leave the phoney socialistic brainwashing thinking of the 1970s behind, and start to think for yourself.
You might find it refreshing?
That's not good enough,HB. As I said before there are no honest candidates to choose from. The Tea Party politicians are nothing more than a whore master in church and they rally behind what they think will get votes. When it is all said and done, they are no more or less morally corrupt than any other politicians. You seem to think Reagan was some kind of saint but you have forgotten the union busting and corporate power he thrived on, the trickle down theory (you know, it). Stand and deliver, HB. I nominate you as the next big thing! Here's the "billion dollar plan" guaranteed to get you in the lime light:.........
First, get a billion dollars.
We can use that to get you nominated. Then we can use that money to bribe and glad hand all the other politicians and corporations, buy off the media, make false promises, etc. Congratulations, you are in!

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