Griff Marketing and Associates

Griff Marketing and Associates

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Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#1 Sep 25, 2013
Wondering if anybody on here works for them or knows anything about them. They're a new marketing firm in Johnson City. Their website is sort of ambiguous to what they do and being a new business they have no reviews yet on the internet. I was thinking about checking them out, but I don't know if it's a legit marketing job or one of those companies that will have you going door to door handing out coupons.
Allistair

Elizabeth, NJ

#2 Oct 3, 2013
Another Smart Circle start up. Need to know more? Just google Smart Circle and you will see how they operate. Canadian guys doing business in the US by incorporating start up businesses as partners and then bleeding everyone dry. An MLM by any other means would have been illegal, but guess what, starting a business in the US and promising them the moon is not. Parker, if you are reading this, no offense, but don't ruin your life because someone promised you the moon! You will not really make any business profit selling car wax, pizza, dead sea salt masks or mops!
Mel

Johnson City, TN

#3 Oct 3, 2013
Have basically the same question about Epic Dynasty Management. Anyone know anything about this company? Thanks!
Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#4 Oct 3, 2013
Allistar - Thanks for letting me know. I'm very familiar with Smart Circle. I worked for another Smart Circle company that used to be in Johnson City. I would never work for them again. I could write an article about how shady the company is, but I will just say that they will promise you the stars and outright lie to keep you doing a crappy job for crappy pay as long as possible.

Mel - I'm pretty sure they are also a Smart Circle company. I would ask them if you go in for an interview. If you're just looking for sales experience it could be a worthwhile venture. Otherwise it's a waste of time.
Lou

Bristol, TN

#5 Oct 3, 2013
Hi,

Thanks for these comments; they have opened my eyes. Don't know if you saw all the different job positions that this company was hiring for on myriad job sites, Captain Obvious, but I applied to Griff for a couple of different jobs. The funny thing is, when I got a telephone call from its president, he told me that there was only one job available-management trainee. That made me very suspicious of the reputableness of this organization. Why would they advertise for different jobs and say that there was really only one job to be had!? Is this a tactic of Smart Circle, also? If so, why?
Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#6 Oct 3, 2013
Lou wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for these comments; they have opened my eyes. Don't know if you saw all the different job positions that this company was hiring for on myriad job sites, Captain Obvious, but I applied to Griff for a couple of different jobs. The funny thing is, when I got a telephone call from its president, he told me that there was only one job available-management trainee. That made me very suspicious of the reputableness of this organization. Why would they advertise for different jobs and say that there was really only one job to be had!? Is this a tactic of Smart Circle, also? If so, why?
What you have described sounds a lot like Smart Circle. They flood job boards with ads because the company is a revolving door. When one person goes in two are coming out.
Amy

Johnson City, TN

#7 Oct 21, 2013
In my opinion, a job is a job. And for anyone who is out there searching for a job day-in-day-out shouldn't have too much to complain about if they are called for an interview. I have worked for Smart Circle for almost three years under my own corporation and have nothing but good things to say about it. I have a career, I have a solid financial income, I have a retirement fund, and can take a vacation whenever I want, and I pride myself on the fact that I have been able to give many people an opportunity that I don't just talk about. I actually make it happen. For someone who likes a 9-5, answering to other people, and putting in requests for days off...this may not be the right opportunity for you. But for someone who is willing to work hard, someone who would like to retire early, and bank a lot of money in the meantime, I can tell you it's real.
Hot Wings

Johnson City, TN

#8 Oct 22, 2013
Amy wrote:
In my opinion, a job is a job. And for anyone who is out there searching for a job day-in-day-out shouldn't have too much to complain about if they are called for an interview. I have worked for Smart Circle for almost three years under my own corporation and have nothing but good things to say about it. I have a career, I have a solid financial income, I have a retirement fund, and can take a vacation whenever I want, and I pride myself on the fact that I have been able to give many people an opportunity that I don't just talk about. I actually make it happen. For someone who likes a 9-5, answering to other people, and putting in requests for days off...this may not be the right opportunity for you. But for someone who is willing to work hard, someone who would like to retire early, and bank a lot of money in the meantime, I can tell you it's real.
I disagree that anyone without a job should be grateful for any interview. There are organized groups, gangs, criminals, conmen, thiefs, perverts, you name it, who target job seekers.

They hope that desperation or "grateful" attitude you desire works to their benefit. I went on a blind type interview many years ago. The initial contact was vague but promised I would be extremely interested once I heard about the opportunity. After a fair amount of hype and pump it was a vacuum cleaner saleman job. Honest work but not for me. One local gay man knew I was looking for a job in a certain field. He bragged he had lots of friends from Nashville in that business and offered we meet them. Needless to say I could see through his ruse. Be careful young people, and unemployed, there are many potholes out there. You may have to drive around some to reach your destination.
Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#9 Oct 22, 2013
Hot Wings wrote:
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I disagree that anyone without a job should be grateful for any interview. There are organized groups, gangs, criminals, conmen, thiefs, perverts, you name it, who target job seekers.
They hope that desperation or "grateful" attitude you desire works to their benefit. I went on a blind type interview many years ago. The initial contact was vague but promised I would be extremely interested once I heard about the opportunity. After a fair amount of hype and pump it was a vacuum cleaner saleman job. Honest work but not for me. One local gay man knew I was looking for a job in a certain field. He bragged he had lots of friends from Nashville in that business and offered we meet them. Needless to say I could see through his ruse. Be careful young people, and unemployed, there are many potholes out there. You may have to drive around some to reach your destination.
I couldn't agree with you more. I have a college degree in marketing and the only jobs I can find are pyramid schemes and door to door selling that any high school dropout could do.
Seannacus

Indian Trail, NC

#10 Nov 12, 2013
How do they pay? Like salary or commission?
Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#11 Nov 13, 2013
Seannacus wrote:
How do they pay? Like salary or commission?
I haven't worked for Griff Marketing, but I have worked for their parent company, Smart Circle. They usually pay minimum wage vs. commission. This means you have a base pay of minimum wage but if your commission is higher in a week than what you made in minimum wage that's what you get. Only managers who own their own office get benefits.

One important thing to know is like many sales jobs they do work on a claw back system. Meaning that if you make less in commission in a week than what they have paid you in minimum wage, they will take the difference out of future pay checks. Claw back is cumulative and if you're not exceptionally good at sales it's easy to get waist deep in it.
Amy

New York, NY

#12 Nov 25, 2013
We do not do clawback. At all. I would absolutely refuse because I don't even think that should be legal. It is unethical and unjust and we will NEVER do clawback. My organization, as well as GMA I can assure, are businesses of honesty and integrity. I am aware of other businesses that do clawback and do not appreciate that form of compensation. It is hourly vs performance, so ultimately, a person can determine their own income. One thing to know is that managers ansolutely get benefits, but all-inclusive trips to Jamaica aren't so bad either (;
Captain Obvious

Knoxville, TN

#13 Nov 27, 2013
Amy wrote:
We do not do clawback. At all. I would absolutely refuse because I don't even think that should be legal. It is unethical and unjust and we will NEVER do clawback. My organization, as well as GMA I can assure, are businesses of honesty and integrity. I am aware of other businesses that do clawback and do not appreciate that form of compensation. It is hourly vs performance, so ultimately, a person can determine their own income. One thing to know is that managers ansolutely get benefits, but all-inclusive trips to Jamaica aren't so bad either (;
That's good. My biggest quarrel with my last Smart Circle job was the clawback system and that I was never told about it when I came aboard. Knowing that you don't do clawback I find solace in your company and it's probably a decent place to work.
Orange white

United States

#14 Feb 6, 2014
Mel wrote:
Have basically the same question about Epic Dynasty Management. Anyone know anything about this company? Thanks!
I talked to epic and was told sit in Walmart everyday and make 100 dollars for every satellite sold
Josh

Knoxville, TN

#15 Mar 30, 2014
This is good advice - if a job description ever lists twenty different responsibilities and one of them is sales. The only thing you will ever do at that job is sales.
Logical Thinker

Vernon Hills, IL

#16 Apr 1, 2014
Anyone else notice "Amy", the only person defending this company, listed herself from two differnet states?

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