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Hillbillyboy

United States

#71 Sep 19, 2013
We should get rid of a socialist program that is mandatory (the government OWNS the people)..that bankrupt the country, that put millions out of work, that cut the hours of millions more...and then require (force) them to buy a commercial product whos price is going up and up and up.

Or have them face trhe armed agents of the IRS who will penalize them into oblivion, imprison them, take away thier lands and property, etc etc etc.

All for the huge profits of the fat-cat CEOs of the insurance companies.

(Who are going to string people along for a couple of years, charge them insurance rates 3, 5 10 times what it was before Obamacare and give them the least, and cheapest treatment (if any), and then bail out of the program altogether after a couple of years)

None of these things come with medicare and medicaid.

They come with Obamacare, and Obamacare alone.

The liberals just keep on twisting the discussion in an effort to avoid the facts.

That is because all they have is the stale, threadbare, same old BS talking points that we can all see the daylight through now.
Messiah Obama

Kingston, PA

#72 Sep 19, 2013
I hope Obama gets elected again. If not as President, then as World Leader. Because Obama is a hero, and not just any hero-- Obama is the MESSIAH. He is a brilliant orator, brilliant enough to win a Nobel Peace Prize. They don't get awarded to just anyone, especially not just for talking. And look at all he's done for the country. Most just don't want to give him the credit. Obama has to deal with cynics and nihilists all day, and yet he still hasn't been dragged down. He's still the bright ray of hope he's always been. And see what he's done for LGBT rights? What a great man! He even has his own song, and SCHOOL CHILDREN sing it. You know why? Because the education system loves Obama. Without Obama, we'd have someone who WASN'T Obama, and that would set progress back drastically, especially in the civil rights department. Obama also said that he has debt, just like all of the college kids. And that makes him someone we all can relate to, and it shows that he understands. Obama is a real leader. We just need to support him more. Look at how stressed he is! He has so much on his plate. As the Messiah, he has to win though. Go Obama!! Obama is the true hero of the people.
idiot

Abingdon, VA

#73 Sep 19, 2013
Needed wrote:
<quoted text> So we should get rid of Medicare and Medicaid? Is that what your saying?
You're wasting your time with these pinheads. They can't answer your question because all they know how to do is spew the Faux news talking points!
Patriot

United States

#74 Sep 20, 2013
http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

The answer is simple - get behind the repeal effort. Call your reps in congress and tell them to vote to defund the disastrous Obamacare.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#75 Sep 20, 2013
idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
You're wasting your time with these pinheads. They can't answer your question because all they know how to do is spew the Faux news talking points!
I take note that you seem to be in love with typing the word "FAUX" news...even though you...um...arent responding to any post that has a Fox news link in it, and there hasnt been one in a while.

You must just like typing the word "Faux"?...

Creepy.....

(A guy lost in his own mind)

Anyway...

Since none of you liberals EVER address any issues brought up, or the points of your opponents, we shall just talk around you and address the audience.

Obama touted the Cleveland Clinic in his speeches when he was selling Obamacare.

But now they are going to have to make budget cuts, talking layoffs...due to Obamacare...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/clev...

The liberals here will never address these points. They will just try to turn the debate to blame Bush and Fox News (because they like typing the word "Faux", and they will come up with fake, ginned up, out-house emotionalism.

"Its for the children"...

"Republicans are mean"...

"Faux News is mean"...

But, its grown up time in America. We cant allow the democrats to wreck the nation and ruin our people for no better reason than somebody likes to type "Faux" instead of Fox.

And to the liberals, they put no more actual thought into the "Faux" thing, than they do in supporting Obamacare.

America cant afford any more "thought free", PC mind numbing agenda.

We must stop Obamacare now. Here is where you can go to sign a petition to do just that...

http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

America dont need cutesy spelling tricks. America needs responsible grown ups to stand up and sign the petition to stop Obamacare, before we go over a cliff from which there is no going back.
Patriot

United States

#76 Sep 20, 2013
The libs and low info masses don't have a clue anymore, no hope, no change and certainly not going forward. Their only responses are to attack the facts and live in misery. Misery loves misery.
Needed

Banner Elk, NC

#77 Sep 20, 2013
The fact is that many employers do not offer insurance. Especially around here. The median income is low in this area so many cannot afford coverage. Obamacare will help many in our region. Those are some facts.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#78 Sep 20, 2013
Needed wrote:
The fact is that many employers do not offer insurance. Especially around here. The median income is low in this area so many cannot afford coverage. Obamacare will help many in our region. Those are some facts.
Um..no. Those are not the facts. They are the talking points that were used to sell the law. But it turns out that they are just lies.

For the working poor around here, and nation wide, Obamacare is a catch 22. It is a bottomless pit opening beneath thier feet.

Check this out...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-25/work...

There we go. The promised subsidies for Obamacare to help the working poor buy insurance, aint coming.

But the poor will still have to buy the "Cadillac", over-priced Obamacare plans, or face the IRS and loose everything and go to jail for tax evasion. Unless they pay the ridiculously high Obamacare penalty that is part of the "Mandate".

(That is what the IRS does with people who dont pay thier "taxes".

It would be nice if the liberals could learn to differentiate between the Obamacare talking points, and reality. They are not the same.
Messiah Obama

Kingston, PA

#79 Sep 20, 2013
Artist: Will.I.Am
Song: Yes We Can (Barack Obama Song)

Lyrics:

It was a creed written into the founding documents that declared the destiny of a nation.
Yes we can.
It was whispered by slaves and abolitionists as they blazed a trail toward freedom.
Yes we can. Yes we can.
It was sung by immigrants as they struck out from distant shores
and pioneers who pushed westward against an unforgiving wilderness.
Yes we can. Yes we can.
It was the call of workers who organized;
women who reached for the ballots;
a President who chose the moon as our new frontier;
and a King who took us to the mountain-top and pointed the way to the Promised Land.
Yes we can to justice and equality.
(yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can...)

Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.
Yes we can to opportunity and prosperity.
Yes we can heal this nation.
Yes we can repair this world.
Yes we can. Si Se Puede
(yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can...)

We know the battle ahead will be long,
but always remember that no matter what obstacles stand in our way,
nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change.
We want change!
(We want change! We want change! We want change...)

We have been told we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics who will only grow louder and more dissonant.
We've been asked to pause for a reality check.
We've been warned against offering the people of this nation false hope.
But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope. We want change!
(We want change! I want change! We want change! I want change...)

The hopes of the little girl who goes to a crumbling school in Dillon are the same as the dreams of the boy who learns on the streets of LA;
we will remember that there is something happening in America;
that we are not as divided as our politics suggests;
that we are one people;
we are one nation;
and together, we will begin the next great chapter in America's story with three words that will ring from coast to coast;
from sea to shining sea - Yes. We. Can.
(yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can, yes we can...)
Messiah Obama

Kingston, PA

#80 Sep 20, 2013
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama
Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama
Messiah Obama

Kingston, PA

#81 Sep 20, 2013
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!"
Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!
Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country's economy number one again!
Hooray Mr. President, we're really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!
So continue ---- Mr. President we know you'll do the trick
So here's a hearty hip-hooray ----
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Needed

Banner Elk, NC

#82 Sep 20, 2013
Hillbillyboy, you are insane. The right is afraid Obamacare will work well and they will have to eat crow. Why don't they try to fix what they see wrong with it? The pure existing thing, the children til 26 thing, and the no lifetime caps thing are good so far. Stop the fear.
Regressions here it comes

United States

#83 Sep 20, 2013
Working Poor Losing Obamacare as States Resist Medicaid

“We are very concerned that in some states there will be people who are not at 100 percent of poverty so they will not, absent Medicaid expansion, qualify for any financial assistance for health insurance,” Kathleen Sebelius, the U.S. health secretary, said yesterday in a briefing for reporters.

“There will be a huge gap between what they can afford and what is available,”

Insurance rates are set by the federal and state government.” and now obamacare.

Obama To Labor Unions With Multi-Employer Health Plans: Drop Dead
LOL and they put him where he is today. LOL
Hillbillyboy

United States

#84 Sep 20, 2013
Needed wrote:
Hillbillyboy, you are insane. The right is afraid Obamacare will work well and they will have to eat crow. Why don't they try to fix what they see wrong with it? The pure existing thing, the children til 26 thing, and the no lifetime caps thing are good so far. Stop the fear.
"Fixing" Obamacare is like "fixing" World War Three.

How do you make either one of them OK?

(By preventing them from happening)

As to the right spreading fear about Obamacare, its not fear, its reality.

Here are some nice folks with good jobs and employer subsidized health insurance that are going to loose thier jobs due to Obamacare...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/clev...

Its already announced, dude. Its here, and its really happening.

Too late to fear it now, its a done deal.

What about this?

http://www.naturalnews.com/037235_Obamacare_f...

Perhaps you would care to cease regurgitating the same old stale talking points of Obamacare...and respond to the news articles in these two links?

These arent talking points. These are real people loosing thier jobs due to Obamacare. They are hurting now.

For them, its too late to fear.

Now, its time to suffer financial loss, job loss, and potential ruin because of Obamacare.

Talking Points wont take away thier financial pain, will it?
Wake Up People

Los Angeles, CA

#85 Sep 20, 2013
Working class Democrats and Republicans alike need to wake up and realize the train wreck that is Obamacare!!! Do your research people!!
The only people that are going to suffer from Obamacare are the working class

If The Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare is so great why are big businesses and Labor unions seeking exemptions from Obamacare? Why do small businesses get one more year before they must implement Obamacare? Could it be because it is too expensive for them to implement? Maybe it's giving them time to rework their insurance coverage plans or their work hours?

WE the working class are watching our hours being cut to 39 hour work weeks!!!! why? so businesses don't have to offers benefits to employees. DO YOU want to work a part time job for the rest of your life!!! Because that is where we are headed!!!

Companies get one more year but what about us little people. Come January we are required to have health insurance or we face being penalized by paying a fine from our income taxes

Did you know under Obamacare businesses are not required to cover spouses? So if you are under your spouses coverage you could be dropped. Don't believe me ask employees of the University of Virginia. Or coverage for a spouse can go up under employee health plans

Can't afford to cover your spouse ? Too bad!!! You have to! It's the law under Obamacare or you get fined on your taxes!!!

Did you know you could lose your doctor. Under Obamacare the govt has the authority to tell doctors to practice medicine where there is more need for doctors.

If you use the federal exchange program your health coverage is under scrutiny by a board , non doctors, that was formed to control overspending. What does that mean you could be denied certain tests or coverages based on factors such as age and or the longevity of your life, all in the name of spending control.

Only you and your doctor, ok maybe HMO carrier as well, should determine what procedures,medicine and treatments you may need. But according to Obamacare lovers it should be govt!!!

Do your research people!! You don't believe me look up the govt website that tries to explain Obamacare. I did!! Read between the lines of the big legal Mumbo jumbo words and see for yourself!!!

We only have 10 days to do something!!!

Sign the petition DontfundObamacare.com right now!!! Over 1.5 million people have!!!

Or look up Democrats against Obamacare

Let your government know that we the little people are aware of the train wreck that is Obamacare
idiot

Abingdon, VA

#86 Sep 20, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
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I take note that you seem to be in love with typing the word "FAUX" news...even though you...um...arent responding to any post that has a Fox news link in it, and there hasnt been one in a while.
You mean since YESTERDAY??? You type so much propogandist bullshit on here on so many different threads you can't keep up with the manure pile yourself...lol.
Wake Up People

Los Angeles, CA

#87 Sep 20, 2013
Regressions here it comes wrote:
Working Poor Losing Obamacare as States Resist Medicaid
“We are very concerned that in some states there will be people who are not at 100 percent of poverty so they will not, absent Medicaid expansion, qualify for any financial assistance for health insurance,” Kathleen Sebelius, the U.S. health secretary, said yesterday in a briefing for reporters.
“There will be a huge gap between what they can afford and what is available,”
Insurance rates are set by the federal and state government.” and now obamacare.
Obama To Labor Unions With Multi-Employer Health Plans: Drop Dead
LOL and they put him where he is today. LOL
Did you read the statement from Kathleen Sebelius? Most of the working class is not going to qualify to receive financial assistance for healthcare coverage from the govt BUT we will still need to purchase health care coverage for ourselves or face penalties when we file our taxes!!!! Its the law!!! If you think you are struggling now just wait until October and January!!!

Do something people!!! Don't just sit there go to DontfundObamacare.com !!!!'
Hillbillyboy

United States

#88 Sep 21, 2013
Yup, for the poor people, Obamacare is a catch 22.

They will not be able to afford Obamacare. But if they dont buy what they literally dont have the money to buy...

...then the IRS comes and takes everything they have, takes away thier kids..and puts them in federal prison for failing to pay thier Obamacare tax.

Proof the democrats hate poor people and children.

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