What Obama should be working on...

What Obama should be working on...

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Hillbillyboy

Carmel, IN

#1 Apr 16, 2013
It aint pushing more knee-jerk, feel good, tyrannical laws.

It aint golfing with Tiger Woods (He and Biden have had what, eight vacations between them this year?)

It aint ginning up fake "sequester pain" ( with the exceptions made for his and Bidens vacations,of course).

It aint cuting Social security and disability while giving hundreds of millions to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

It aint destroying the Constitution.

He should be worried about this...

http://smallbusiness.foxbusiness.com/entrepre...

Thats right, Bees.

Obama should be worried about why our bees are dying off. Without them,our crops will not get pollinated (and we all stave to death)

We cant live without food crops, you see.

So, this is important.

Anybody agree that there is a problem with the bees?

As for me, I am indeed worried about it. If the bees die out, then all this political stuff wont have any meaning.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#2 Apr 16, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
It aint pushing more knee-jerk, feel good, tyrannical laws.

It aint golfing with Tiger Woods (He and Biden have had what, eight vacations between them this year?)

It aint ginning up fake "sequester pain" ( with the exceptions made for his and Bidens vacations,of course).

It aint cuting Social security and disability while giving hundreds of millions to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

It aint destroying the Constitution.

He should be worried about this...

http://smallbusiness.foxbusiness.com/entrepre...

Thats right, Bees.

Obama should be worried about why our bees are dying off. Without them,our crops will not get pollinated (and we all stave to death)

We cant live without food crops, you see.

So, this is important.

Anybody agree that there is a problem with the bees?

As for me, I am indeed worried about it. If the bees die out, then all this political stuff wont have any meaning.
I've noticed in the past decade that they're aren't as many. On the farm I grew up on 2 or 3 hives (in trees) just died off.. Those hives had been in those trees as long as I can remember..
Pop

Jonesborough, TN

#3 Apr 16, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
<quoted text>
I've noticed in the past decade that they're aren't as many. On the farm I grew up on 2 or 3 hives (in trees) just died off.. Those hives had been in those trees as long as I can remember..
You know what, I have noticed the same thing.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#4 Apr 17, 2013
Pop wrote:
<quoted text>You know what, I have noticed the same thing.
Remember when the fields would be alive with bees after the buttercups bloomed? Not anymore, they're few and far between.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#5 Apr 17, 2013
I think I have only seen one honey bee this year, where the place used to be full of them.

My corn didnt do well last year either. Not pollinated enough by the bees.

Cant the government come up with a program to breed honey bees and release them?
Hillbillyboy

United States

#6 Apr 17, 2013
Just in case anybody hasnt heard about the CCD thing (Colony Collapse Disorder), here is a short video about it. Its just enough to get us a feel of immersion into this thread...



CCD. What is causing it?

What of the Africanized honey bees (killer bees). Is CCD affecting them too?
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#7 Apr 17, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
Just in case anybody hasnt heard about the CCD thing (Colony Collapse Disorder), here is a short video about it. Its just enough to get us a feel of immersion into this thread...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =unca1QR3nLsXX

CCD. What is causing it?

What of the Africanized honey bees (killer bees). Is CCD affecting them too?
Thanks for the link man, I hope to find more info about this soon..
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#8 Apr 17, 2013
I saw a show quite awhile ago about the Africanized bees cross breeding with honey bees. There's no telling, those Africanized bees may be carriers of a disease that the honey bees aren't immune to.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#9 Apr 18, 2013
Well, I did find an interesting article on this...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology/inse...

One thing (I know it sounds crazy) that caught my attention was that some researchers think that CCD may have something to do with the bees losing the ability to navigate.

Hmm.

Most animals use an electromagnetic awareness of the Earths geomagnetic field for navigation purposes.

The Magnetic Sense of Animals...

http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/magsense/

If the tiny bees navigational processes are being disrupted...

Geomagnetic disturbances?

Electronic Disturbances? What could cause that?

Increased modern communications systems? Cell phone over use, solar flares, polar shift?

Are there any other magnetic anomalies that have affected animal migration and navigation patterns?
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#10 Apr 18, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
Well, I did find an interesting article on this...

http://science.howstuffworks.com/zoology/inse...

One thing (I know it sounds crazy) that caught my attention was that some researchers think that CCD may have something to do with the bees losing the ability to navigate.

Hmm.

Most animals use an electromagnetic awareness of the Earths geomagnetic field for navigation purposes.

The Magnetic Sense of Animals...

http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/magsense/

If the tiny bees navigational processes are being disrupted...

Geomagnetic disturbances?

Electronic Disturbances? What could cause that?

Increased modern communications systems? Cell phone over use, solar flares, polar shift?

Are there any other magnetic anomalies that have affected animal migration and navigation patterns?
I guess at this stage of hypothesis one should keep an open mind to all possibilities until they're proven impossible. Bees may be more sensitive to those magnetic anomalies.

Sounds like a long shot tho..
Hillbillyboy

United States

#11 Apr 18, 2013
Yeah, and why just honey bees? Why not wasps and hornets declining too?

Do honeybees need to navigate longer distances than wasps or hornets in their everyday tasks?
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#12 Apr 18, 2013
For whatever reason it's happening its a cause I would support if a government program got involved to investigate and start repopulation programs. Issues like this that effect everyone in the US population are what The Federal Government was started for isn't it?
joe

Linville, NC

#13 Apr 20, 2013
Neonicotinoids. Look it up.
He preen

Bluff City, TN

#14 Apr 20, 2013
They're looking hard into it. It's been going on for a while. This planet is in a perfect BALANCE. some people care and some people don't. The ones that don't should be removed. I would deport the Koch Brothers completely off this planet .....
Hillbilly boy

United States

#15 Apr 21, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
For whatever reason it's happening its a cause I would support if a government program got involved to investigate and start repopulation programs. Issues like this that effect everyone in the US population are what The Federal Government was started for isn't it?
I quite agree. The role of government is to do the needed things for the people, that the people cannot do for themselves.

(Ill actually steer around any political references for the sake of preserving a good thread). In fact, I wish I had opened the thread differently to avoid political references at all. My apologies there.

But yes, this is something that transcends politics. Without the bees, then we are in real trouble no mater what side of the political spectrum we come from.

The real question might be...can the Federal government even do anything helpful about this before it is too late?

Is it too late to get the research done and come up with a repopulation plan?

Has the Federal government ever looked into this before? Has anything been tried before to save the bees?
Hillbilly boy

Chicago, IL

#16 Apr 22, 2013
We really know so little about animals, and why they do things.

Like, why do dolphins like to swim under the bowsprit of sailing vessels? They still do it today.

I can think of nothing in the natural world that would replicate this instinct in dolphins to do this.

Any ideas?
jUst curiouser

Kingsport, TN

#17 Apr 23, 2013
Just for the record, companies like Monsanto are deeply involved with genetics, cloning, and "Round Up" resistant strains of vegetables. They are claiming patent rights to same. A farmer cannot legally plant the seeds of a previous harvest without violating their "patent rights", and even if they could, more than likely the plants would just revert to the worser traits of the hybrid seed. With their self established rights, that are supported by the government, and honeybees are no longer needed for their needs, and to hell with the rest of us. I enjoy my back yard garden, but it may soon become a thing of the past. Sorta sounds like pot growers growing Sensemilla, doesn't it? Cloning does not involve pollination, it's done in vitro, more or less. Lord help us, we are being led down the same road as the honeybees!
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#18 Apr 23, 2013
jUst curiouser wrote:
Just for the record, companies like Monsanto are deeply involved with genetics, cloning, and "Round Up" resistant strains of vegetables. They are claiming patent rights to same. A farmer cannot legally plant the seeds of a previous harvest without violating their "patent rights", and even if they could, more than likely the plants would just revert to the worser traits of the hybrid seed. With their self established rights, that are supported by the government, and honeybees are no longer needed for their needs, and to hell with the rest of us. I enjoy my back yard garden, but it may soon become a thing of the past. Sorta sounds like pot growers growing Sensemilla, doesn't it? Cloning does not involve pollination, it's done in vitro, more or less. Lord help us, we are being led down the same road as the honeybees!
You bring up some very interesting and down right scary topics. I never really thought about it that way..
Hillbilly boy

United States

#19 Apr 24, 2013
So, are the honey bees being deliberately killed off so that only the seeds from big business corporations will carry our crop load in the future?

And thus,nature is being deliberately cut out of the food supply loop?

(A frightening thought)

At first, I must dismiss it entirely as ludricrous. But then, I do see strange things going on in Washington, from both parties.

From democrats...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/31/ob...

And from Republicans...



And...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Could that explain these things?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I dont know about any of this stuff. I just found it on the net, and I brought it up for discussion.

But I dont think that any of these government directions and policies are going in the right direction to help the bees, do you?
patient

Johnson City, TN

#20 Apr 25, 2013
Thank you for the interesting information and for using this forum as it was intended to be used.

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