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Jonathan

Kingsport, TN

#21 Oct 27, 2012
and booker, that is exactly the problem...the government would spend money protecting a house with all those expensive security measures when the smart thing to do is save your money and just buy the shotgun

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#22 Oct 27, 2012
Indeed, national education is 100 times more important, than any foreign policy, regardless of what anyone believes their media tells them.

The opening of a real job market, would be fantastic also, not what scraps the country throws at the population. Hell when we do open new factories, the foreign compensation alone, outweighs any possibility of success, along with our debt. It truly ends up shipping the money and the jobs back out of the US and brings in more foreign debt.

Honestly we deserve to drop ALL military spending, keep all the soldiers pensions,pay, and benefits. Dismantle all current funding elsewhere and future projects. Also drop every aspect of homeland security all over the country. No one would ever know the difference, well except for a few bills going down.

Oh and personally if the military budget got to be neutralized, I believe the corrupt banks and private equity firms, should have to pay for ALL military personnel's wages and benefits. While also providing steady job markets for them. Cause yes they do have that much influence in the states.

Take Care
Jonathan

Kingsport, TN

#23 Oct 27, 2012
no im sorry i cant agree with that sir unknown...we absolutely need a military budget...national defense is very important...what i am saying is $100 billion is still an insane amount of money and is 1/7 of the $700 billion we spend annually...we need our military but we have enough that we can afford some cut backs...take the $600 billion you save and build factories and plants to create jobs and kick start the economy

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#24 Oct 27, 2012
Jonathan wrote:
no im sorry i cant agree with that sir unknown...we absolutely need a military budget...national defense is very important...what i am saying is $100 billion is still an insane amount of money and is 1/7 of the $700 billion we spend annually...we need our military but we have enough that we can afford some cut backs...take the $600 billion you save and build factories and plants to create jobs and kick start the economy
Aye man I cannot argue with that logic at all, but this is a goal we both know, WILL never be done, due to the hiding of truth to the public. If the public was truly aware of funding they would SCREAM for this corruption to end, knowing they are paying for large scale government fuck ups.

But I just read the latest Bloomberg report, and sadly to say the military budgets are small potatoes, compared to the current global market, and the Fed Reserve, trying to make taxpayers of the US, foot what they can of the bill.

I have learned one thing for sure, do not watch interest rates on the dollar and loans. Specifically watch derivatives of the global economy.

The Fed bailouts and world bank bailouts, has left "someone" with an unanswered 75 trillion debt, and thats JUST in the past 2 years. I would really hate too imagine the REAL debt, I have heard the rumored 2.4 quadrillion and thought it was kind of a sham, but god damn I truly believe it is in that ballpark.

Real investors or anyone, who is going to concern themselves with REAL financial problems, needs to watch derivatives and forget the rest, derivatives are the TRUTH, to the matter. Sadly though, their are massive banking firms that do not even know of real derivatives and the real agendas backing them.

On the military again, I believe if there is any funding saved at all for military, it should only be for homeland defense, not letting a whole entire corrupt organization in the name of homeland defense take its place. We should have no more spending far as "advancement" as far as "weapons & defense", we should focus our funds on the "right" things, such as preventive economics and also preventive humanity measures. Those should come first in my opinion, and there is no way of doing so.

Also honestly, I do not even think 700 billion is even close to the real amount per year on "military" spending, its just what they can "show" on paper, not the real funneling that has been happening, and the playing of ANY country, who has a "resource" we can snatch up.

Take Care, and enjoying the conversation must say

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#25 Oct 27, 2012
Also on the creation of new jobs, how can we ever get these "projects" on the go, with the current setup we have, there is no way the new businesses, could come close to covering the interest rates alone, especially if you tried to keep the funding "in house" so to speak. Our US dollar has no value, and soon as we tried to spend our own money for national help, instead of making global rich happier, the elite rich will start asking for some "return" in assets and lots would be exposed, and most "leaders" know that cannot happen, cause that would create such an epidemic and superduperuper hyperinflation, that no one could even possibly fathom.

There is absolutely no way of spinning this to not come to a shit dead end, for our country. We have allowed the wrong people run our economy for way too long, and they have drove it to the ground and pretty much straight to the core of the earth. We are literally playing a game, that has "game over" all over the screen, but too many people still want to play the game regardless of the knowing fact, its ALL over, and there is nothing no one can do about it now, accept start facing the shitstorm now, instead of waiting even more.

We will be the next Iran,Greece,France, and so on so on. Even worse though, you cannot pull the majority of citizens away from politics and personal agendas, to even talk some "sense" into larger issues that will terminate our existence, even past a 3rd world country.

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Booker Phillips

Marion, VA

#27 Oct 27, 2012
sir unknown wrote:
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What history books would you prefer me to read?
Umm could you name a war we have "went" to that hasnt been fraudulent or over greed?
How would you like it if a country simply came onto your land, and demanded when and where you will be places, and puts curfews on people? Or takes away your "freedoms" in an overnight blitz and DEMANDS that you follow them?
Could you name just ONE trade that "helps" our country and its citizens, and not those who already on the elite rich level, or the ones trying to help the ultimate rich.
Maybe you could read something that hasnt been proofread by congress or government and see the REAL things happening in this nation..
Maybe you could tell me why we do not help our the starving people of the world, but instead go wherever there are "resources" that profits can be made on. WE would rather FORCE "democracy" on other countries than help out a direly stranded country, than HELP even our OWN damn people, much less any other country that needs it.
Maybe we do have interests all over the globe, but could you speak upon what we do that actually BENEFITS our citizens?
Hell could you actually name ONE thing our government has done to EVER help our PEOPLE out, and not claim to be the "well being" of our nation, which means its lining someones pockets, even more.
Maybe you could explain why martial law bill was passed this year, that will forcefully allow military to take over each and every state?
MAYBE....
Take Care
1) Read a book on international trade and why it is necessary.
2) Read the Monroe Doctrine.
3) That is what happens to countries with no defense.
4) Unless you're willing to trek your happy ass down to Colombia and bring the coffee back yourself, somebody else is going to make money off of doing so. The same with every other foreign trade. See number 1.
5) I form my own opinions.
6) With the combined humanitarian aid given to foreign countries by the US, US-based humanitarian aid organizations, and our churches, we provide three times the aid than all other countries combined.
7) Every time a terrorist is killed, every citizen in our country becomes safer. Every time you get to read an uncensored book, or speak out against your government, or arm yourself, or are afforded the due process of law, or are provided low-income public housing, or receive food stamps, or are successful in preventing law enforcement from entering your home without permission, etc, etc, etc, you can thank your government.
8) See number 7.
9) That's a question for the Obama supporters.







Booker Phillips

Marion, VA

#28 Oct 27, 2012
Jonathan wrote:
and booker, that is exactly the problem...the government would spend money protecting a house with all those expensive security measures when the smart thing to do is save your money and just buy the shotgun
I know many a home owner who had their shotguns stolen. Think about it.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#29 Oct 27, 2012
Booker Phillips wrote:
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1) Read a book on international trade and why it is necessary.
2) Read the Monroe Doctrine.
3) That is what happens to countries with no defense.
4) Unless you're willing to trek your happy ass down to Colombia and bring the coffee back yourself, somebody else is going to make money off of doing so. The same with every other foreign trade. See number 1.
5) I form my own opinions.
6) With the combined humanitarian aid given to foreign countries by the US, US-based humanitarian aid organizations, and our churches, we provide three times the aid than all other countries combined.
7) Every time a terrorist is killed, every citizen in our country becomes safer. Every time you get to read an uncensored book, or speak out against your government, or arm yourself, or are afforded the due process of law, or are provided low-income public housing, or receive food stamps, or are successful in preventing law enforcement from entering your home without permission, etc, etc, etc, you can thank your government.
8) See number 7.
9) That's a question for the Obama supporters.
1. How about you actual speak on what you learned, instead of just telling me to read, when I openly discuss my research. Why do YOU feel its necessary, especially when it is corrupt.

2. What about it? Roosevelt threw that shit out the window, when he announced we was going to be "international police". So what the fuck do you mean...

3. We have NO defensive funding to spend, so how do you figure its ok to go further into debt, than we already are.

4. Then why does our happy ass need the coffee in the first place. Its basically saying, hey if we want it or desire it, we deserve it? That the bullshit that got us in trouble.

5. I would LIKE to see the opinions, minus the hatred and just telling people to read,read,read,read.

6. Could you HAPPILY provide this so called aid, or maybe evidence of who it truly helps. I mean since children are literally starving to death all over the globe, and we are only considered with oil resources and conquering more profits and all?

7. Which "terrorists" are you talking about killing? The same terrorist who are only defending their freedoms and their own country? Those terrorist? Or the terrorist that WE, the United States have been for decades. We ARE the largest terrorist group in the world and take away from so many peoples countries, over and over. We leave whole entire ecosystem devastated, let alone the people in it. We are the bullies who has never had our ass kicked, and act upon that. Sadly though it aint going to last much longer.

8. What...

9. How about ANY political supporter? They are all misinformed or have hidden agendas of their own. The ones who truly DO want to make a positive difference are never given a chance in this nation or never lobbied by the multi-billion corporations.

Take Care
Booker Phillips

Marion, VA

#30 Oct 27, 2012
Maybe if you read a little more and expressed your opinions a little less, your ramblings might be worth reading. Everything I have stated is based on fact or first-hand knowledge. If you are so concerned about their validity, confirm them yourself.

Since you are obviously so obsessed with a self-sustaining society free of political and military intervention, might I suggest a hilltop in Tibet. But like most people of similar being, you like to speak in disdain of your country while having no problem enjoying all of its comforts. You know, the aforementioned abilities afforded to all Americans to be able to read an uncensored book, or speak out against our government, or arm ourself, or being afforded the due process of law, or being provided low-income public housing, or receiving food stamps, or being successful in preventing law enforcement from entering our home without permission, etc, etc, etc - all those things you conveniently ignored.

And since you are so fond of answering questions, you seem to keep dodging the question of why are so many foreigners trying so desperately to enter our glorious country if it is so bad.
Beg asked

Johnson City, TN

#31 Oct 27, 2012
Booker Phillips wrote:
Maybe if you read a little more and expressed your opinions a little less, your ramblings might be worth reading. Everything I have stated is based on fact or first-hand knowledge. If you are so concerned about their validity, confirm them yourself.
Since you are obviously so obsessed with a self-sustaining society free of political and military intervention, might I suggest a hilltop in Tibet. But like most people of similar being, you like to speak in disdain of your country while having no problem enjoying all of its comforts. You know, the aforementioned abilities afforded to all Americans to be able to read an uncensored book, or speak out against our government, or arm ourself, or being afforded the due process of law, or being provided low-income public housing, or receiving food stamps, or being successful in preventing law enforcement from entering our home without permission, etc, etc, etc - all those things you conveniently ignored.
And since you are so fond of answering questions, you seem to keep dodging the question of why are so many foreigners trying so desperately to enter our glorious country if it is so bad.
They want to enter because of the quality of life, but WE have a duty to combat those of you who think that these WAYS IF LIFE were somehow granted by the likes of you. We earned them, and we have inalienable rights as having np been born American. Also, we have a duty to combat oppression. It's your thought process that has our history books filled with autrocities against mankind. We will not allow you to do it again. You can't write a post without mentioning food stamps. FU. Rey take over 30% out of my taxes and I want it going to food. I want yours to subsidize the already wealthy like Exxon and AT&T. Geez, do they need food? Yu seem to approve of helping the wealthy but can't open your mouth without bitching about food stamps. FU. I hope you're hungry one day. Also, I don't like worms that kiss up to the wealthy. It sickens me to see butt kissing. What? Do you think it's going to secure yourself a spot in the new world order? We let hard work earn ourselves into a position with a firm that they simply can't do without us. Your types find some kind of angle or blackmail that makes it impossible to get rid of you. Your whole life is a lie. And that's what the history books say. Got it?
Riptide

Johnson City, TN

#32 Oct 27, 2012
Beg asked wrote:
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They want to enter because of the quality of life, but WE have a duty to combat those of you who think that these WAYS IF LIFE were somehow granted by the likes of you. We earned them, and we have inalienable rights as having np been born American. Also, we have a duty to combat oppression. It's your thought process that has our history books filled with autrocities against mankind. We will not allow you to do it again. You can't write a post without mentioning food stamps. FU. Rey take over 30% out of my taxes and I want it going to food. I want yours to subsidize the already wealthy like Exxon and AT&T. Geez, do they need food? Yu seem to approve of helping the wealthy but can't open your mouth without bitching about food stamps. FU. I hope you're hungry one day. Also, I don't like worms that kiss up to the wealthy. It sickens me to see butt kissing. What? Do you think it's going to secure yourself a spot in the new world order? We let hard work earn ourselves into a position with a firm that they simply can't do without us. Your types find some kind of angle or blackmail that makes it impossible to get rid of you. Your whole life is a lie. And that's what the history books say. Got it?
You sound exactly one of those individuals who use their food stamps for food and use their own money for beer, cigarettes, tattoos and putting some loud mufflers on their car. Then after doing that, they wonder why they can't get ahead and it must be the rich screwing them. Yes, food stamps are a great way to temporarily help a deserving soul out. However, there are a lot of people scamming the system just to get free food. Nobody has every led a happy and productive life relying on the government for sustenance while blaming it all on the rich. Got it?
Booker Phillips

Marion, VA

#33 Oct 27, 2012
Beg asked wrote:
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They want to enter because of the quality of life, but WE have a duty to combat those of you who think that these WAYS IF LIFE were somehow granted by the likes of you. We earned them, and we have inalienable rights as having np been born American. Also, we have a duty to combat oppression. It's your thought process that has our history books filled with autrocities against mankind. We will not allow you to do it again. You can't write a post without mentioning food stamps. FU. Rey take over 30% out of my taxes and I want it going to food. I want yours to subsidize the already wealthy like Exxon and AT&T. Geez, do they need food? Yu seem to approve of helping the wealthy but can't open your mouth without bitching about food stamps. FU. I hope you're hungry one day. Also, I don't like worms that kiss up to the wealthy. It sickens me to see butt kissing. What? Do you think it's going to secure yourself a spot in the new world order? We let hard work earn ourselves into a position with a firm that they simply can't do without us. Your types find some kind of angle or blackmail that makes it impossible to get rid of you. Your whole life is a lie. And that's what the history books say. Got it?
There have been many days I went hungry. I didn't like the feeling, so I went to college, got a career, went back to school at night, and got a better career. I didn't blame everybody else for my woes; I blamed myself and then did something about it. The one thing I realized, unlike you and the millions of deadbeats like you, is that the problem lies within. The opportunities are there for everyone. You can take advantage of them or you can lie around in self-pity crying like a little bitch. Got it?

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#34 Oct 28, 2012
Booker Phillips wrote:
Maybe if you read a little more and expressed your opinions a little less, your ramblings might be worth reading. Everything I have stated is based on fact or first-hand knowledge. If you are so concerned about their validity, confirm them yourself.
Since you are obviously so obsessed with a self-sustaining society free of political and military intervention, might I suggest a hilltop in Tibet. But like most people of similar being, you like to speak in disdain of your country while having no problem enjoying all of its comforts. You know, the aforementioned abilities afforded to all Americans to be able to read an uncensored book, or speak out against our government, or arm ourself, or being afforded the due process of law, or being provided low-income public housing, or receiving food stamps, or being successful in preventing law enforcement from entering our home without permission, etc, etc, etc - all those things you conveniently ignored.
And since you are so fond of answering questions, you seem to keep dodging the question of why are so many foreigners trying so desperately to enter our glorious country if it is so bad.
You have not named one damn "comfort" yet. You have no freedom in this country, no matter how you look at it. This country is becoming more restrictive everyday.

ALL Im asking for, is for you to name your facts, not "declaring" yourself, I talk about names,events, and titles that you can go look up. IM asking for them too be proven wrong, not what you can pump out in words of red,white,and blue. Somehow talking about your character and never touching on topics is proving your point, which is basically every presidential speech, so by all means if you feel the need to do so, go for it. Ive stated all the corrupt things, From Fed Reserve - 9/11 Lies - Martial Law. You never once proved or spoke against these matters, except for the idea I am wrong, cause YOU say so. And then happily call my research pitiful and misinformed, I would not waste my fucking time to just come talk shit.

“Unknown”

Since: Sep 12

Kingsport

#35 Oct 28, 2012
Booker Phillips wrote:
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There have been many days I went hungry. I didn't like the feeling, so I went to college, got a career, went back to school at night, and got a better career. I didn't blame everybody else for my woes; I blamed myself and then did something about it. The one thing I realized, unlike you and the millions of deadbeats like you, is that the problem lies within. The opportunities are there for everyone. You can take advantage of them or you can lie around in self-pity crying like a little bitch. Got it?
You must not know hunger either by the way, you can clarify all day that you can. True hunger and starvation like 40 % of the world that is dealing with it everyday, the last thing on their fucking mind is bettering their careers, its doing something to get a MEAL. Yes its either dumpster diving or robbing someone just too feed you or your family, not which classes your going to take or relate to people about how you had to do night school and work also, while going back home to a warm home and bed.



If your truly on your own with no help from anyone, it is literally impossible too follow that college "dream", cause YOU simply cannot afford it or the debt afterwards.

Once again lets hear ALL these opportunities that you speak of, instead of just simply stating that you have them and you can use them. For shits sake name them and lets see how solid your backing is on these topics, or is it going to be more of the George Bush approach and just simply speak with a flag wrapped around you and a eagle flying above your head.
Beg asked

Johnson City, TN

#36 Oct 30, 2012
Booker Phillips wrote:
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There have been many days I went hungry. I didn't like the feeling, so I went to college, got a career, went back to school at night, and got a better career. I didn't blame everybody else for my woes; I blamed myself and then did something about it. The one thing I realized, unlike you and the millions of deadbeats like you, is that the problem lies within. The opportunities are there for everyone. You can take advantage of them or you can lie around in self-pity crying like a little bitch. Got it?
Ad why you thugs seem to think you have a lock on "hard work" escapes me. I work with right wingers. MFs won't GD work. they won't do it. They are a constant burden on the GD payroll. If you say you went to college, then I guess I believe you. Good for you. I did too. So where does that leave us. I'm a deadbeat and you're not? See, the problem here is that you're stupid. Te top 2% are using your own stupidity against you by pointing at the freaking poor people like they have all the GD money. Are you really that FREAKING DUMB?

Ten bucks says you belong to the GD NRA...? Right....these MFers are running million dollar ads saying Obama wants to take people's guns away.....where does your insanity Freaking come from? D you MFers want civil GD war? Keep pushing.
Paul

Johnson City, TN

#37 Oct 30, 2012
Beg asked wrote:
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Ad why you thugs seem to think you have a lock on "hard work" escapes me. I work with right wingers. MFs won't GD work. they won't do it. They are a constant burden on the GD payroll. If you say you went to college, then I guess I believe you. Good for you. I did too. So where does that leave us. I'm a deadbeat and you're not? See, the problem here is that you're stupid. Te top 2% are using your own stupidity against you by pointing at the freaking poor people like they have all the GD money. Are you really that FREAKING DUMB?
Ten bucks says you belong to the GD NRA...? Right....these MFers are running million dollar ads saying Obama wants to take people's guns away.....where does your insanity Freaking come from? D you MFers want civil GD war? Keep pushing.
You're the stupid one, you can't even spell. How did you graduate from college not being able to spell? Sorry, you've been busted as a Redneck posing as someone with some sense. Just shut up

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