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Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#21 Oct 29, 2013
Proud Tennesseean wrote:
Let's talk balls for a minute, Booker Phillips. I'll meet you anywhere between here and jonesborough and let you call me a coward to my face. You bitch about spending 3.7 trillion dollars helping Americans but not a word about the 4 trillion your pu mass Crawdord Cowboy spent killing innocent people in the Middle East. Pro-life my ass. You're a murderous, Mathhew Hill ass wipe and ill cowardly say it to your face.
You're the Fing enemy, not bin Lasen. He was killing people who were killing his people. You're killing your own people. FU.
Fuel that to your fire, dipshit !
Your grammar, spelling and pointless comment must be precisely why you are defending the waste of trillions of dollar to support bloated generations of deadbeats on Welfare.

I don't like having to spend money of wars but at least the money spent on the military is for a worthy cause. They fight to keep our country free, to allow us all the opportunity (if we are willing to WORK for it) to have the American dream. That is benefit to all of us.

Just exactly what is the benefit to throwing trillions of dollars at the long list of Welfare programs? What good does it do to keep feeding people who contribute nothing and just keep making more babies so we have generations of slugs with their hand out. Not getting educated or skilled, not trying to better themselves, irresponsibly making babies they can't afford, many times they are criminals. Welfare is a huge waste of money, all the trillions spent and yet, more deadbeats keep lining up because now they feel it is owed to them and there is no incentive for them to work at making their lives better or to take care of their own children.

Sorry, Welfare is a dead end street. You are not entitled to a part of the paycheck your neighbor works to earn. It does not matter that YOUR children are hungry, key words there "your children" meaning they are YOUR responsibility. You have no right to burden our society with your children's needs...be a parent and support your own children.
Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#22 Oct 29, 2013
Booker Phillips wrote:
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Nice try. Let me be a little more exact just so you won't have any excuses. Wal-mart in Eliz. I'll give you gas money when you get there. I'll be in a black Chevy Silverado x-cab pickup with Carter County tags. I'll have an American flag bumper sticker on the left side that says "American Made." I'll be in one of the very last rows just in case you had hoped you wouldn't be able to find me. After that, I have 30 acres of unadulterated hunting property with no houses or other standing buildings within 5 miles besides an old barn I store hay in that should aptly serve your request. And I believe you better be serious.
Matthew Hill, huh? You'll wish.
You bein' a working man...with this Welfare state you're gonna have to change your bumper sticker to "American Maid" since we taxpayers are apparently the nanny, maids and bankers for the slugs who think we should be glad to provide for them and their kids because they got a sob story.
Booker Phillips

Elizabethton, TN

#23 Oct 29, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
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You bein' a working man...with this Welfare state you're gonna have to change your bumper sticker to "American Maid" since we taxpayers are apparently the nanny, maids and bankers for the slugs who think we should be glad to provide for them and their kids because they got a sob story.
I never thought of it that way, but no truer words have been spoken.
RIP once free America

United States

#24 Oct 30, 2013
Welcome to the USSA the new communist socialist country ruled by tyranny and a dictator. Just what we needed another Hitler.
Needed

Banner Elk, NC

#25 Oct 30, 2013
Did any of you hear about the McDonalds that told their employee they would help them get assistance? That is not even included in the $100B in the corporate welfare figure. It is sad that these millionaires and billionaires and these wealthy corporations rely on the taxpayer to supplement their employees incomes. What do you folks think about that?
Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#26 Oct 30, 2013
Needed wrote:
Did any of you hear about the McDonalds that told their employee they would help them get assistance? That is not even included in the $100B in the corporate welfare figure. It is sad that these millionaires and billionaires and these wealthy corporations rely on the taxpayer to supplement their employees incomes. What do you folks think about that?
I think it's time for folks who can't afford to live on their income go find better jobs or take two jobs, whatever it takes to support THEMSELVES and provide for THEIR OWN family. Minimum wage jobs are meant to be a starter job for high school or college kids looking to get work experience and make a buck while they prepare themselves for a real career. Those jobs are not intended to support an uneducated, unmotivated adult with 3 babies. It is not the taxpayers responsibility to support people who are making babies they can't afford and anybody who can't make more than minimum wage has no business having children.
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#27 Oct 30, 2013
Needed wrote:
Did any of you hear about the McDonalds that told their employee they would help them get assistance? That is not even included in the $100B in the corporate welfare figure. It is sad that these millionaires and billionaires and these wealthy corporations rely on the taxpayer to supplement their employees incomes. What do you folks think about that?
I think it is sad that individuals rely on their employer to sustain what they think is a fair standard of living when their new standard of living includes cell phones, flat screen tv's, computers, iPads, home theater, etc. Offer something to your employer that he or she is willing to pay more for and you might just get more money. Relying on your employer or the government to sustain a high quality of life is a losing proposition if you don't do anything to help yourself. These employers are providing opportunities to earn a living. If you don't think you can earn a living at a particular place of employment, find employment elsewhere. Handouts breed more handouts. Handouts breed a gimme culture. Qualifying for food stamps used to be shameful. Now it is a badge of honor that an individual beat the system. You are contributing to this new culture. Hope you're proud.
yep

United States

#28 Oct 31, 2013
Needed wrote:
Did any of you hear about the McDonalds that told their employee they would help them get assistance? That is not even included in the $100B in the corporate welfare figure. It is sad that these millionaires and billionaires and these wealthy corporations rely on the taxpayer to supplement their employees incomes. What do you folks think about that?
So you are a jealous freeloader lib democrat socialist who wants to destroy America!
Booker Phillips

Elizabethton, TN

#29 Oct 31, 2013
Needed wrote:
Did any of you hear about the McDonalds that told their employee they would help them get assistance? That is not even included in the $100B in the corporate welfare figure. It is sad that these millionaires and billionaires and these wealthy corporations rely on the taxpayer to supplement their employees incomes. What do you folks think about that?
Are you talking about the same McDonalds that has been one of the 2,000+ companies thus far to be granted "special" ACA waivers by the Obama Administration? Did you get a "special" waiver?
Needed

Banner Elk, NC

#30 Oct 31, 2013
You are all wrong. I'm saying that taxpayers are subsidizing employees (that means people that WORK) by giving them assistance because they do not make enough at their jobs. One of you said they are "starter jobs". Do you know what the demographic make up of fast food workers is? Look it up. You may be surprised. Usually you right wingers are saying these people do not work. One of you even called me a freeloader. You people have your heads up your you know whats!
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#31 Oct 31, 2013
Needed wrote:
You are all wrong. I'm saying that taxpayers are subsidizing employees (that means people that WORK) by giving them assistance because they do not make enough at their jobs. One of you said they are "starter jobs". Do you know what the demographic make up of fast food workers is? Look it up. You may be surprised. Usually you right wingers are saying these people do not work. One of you even called me a freeloader. You people have your heads up your you know whats!
You are either not very smart or seriously misinformed. Most people working at a fast food establishment are older teenagers or young adults. If there are older employees in a fast food establishment, they are there for a reason. The reason could be they have no skills. The reason could be they have some sort of attitude problem. The reason could be they recently were released from prison. The reason could be they have purple hair. Do you get it? Older people working at a fast food establishment are what many employers deem unhirable individuals due to one or more of the above reasons. They are working there due to choices they made in life. Most taxpayers don't feel responsible for bad choices.
Fact is

Johnson City, TN

#32 Oct 31, 2013
Pop wrote:
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You are either not very smart or seriously misinformed. Most people working at a fast food establishment are older teenagers or young adults. If there are older employees in a fast food establishment, they are there for a reason. The reason could be they have no skills. The reason could be they have some sort of attitude problem. The reason could be they recently were released from prison. The reason could be they have purple hair. Do you get it? Older people working at a fast food establishment are what many employers deem unhirable individuals due to one or more of the above reasons. They are working there due to choices they made in life. Most taxpayers don't feel responsible for bad choices.
There are those who have been dealt a bad hand, those going through trials, and those who had parents who may have abandoned them and family for person other than spouse or for drugs. If I were you I would get off my high horse. God may send a financial or health crisis your way to humble you. In no way do I support a long term welfare society.
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#33 Oct 31, 2013
Fact is wrote:
<quoted text> There are those who have been dealt a bad hand, those going through trials, and those who had parents who may have abandoned them and family for person other than spouse or for drugs. If I were you I would get off my high horse. God may send a financial or health crisis your way to humble you. In no way do I support a long term welfare society.
Lots of people have been dealt a bad hand. Working at McDonald's is a choice, not a mandate. Even having been dealt a bad hand, it is up to you to convince an employer you are worth higher than minimum wage and actually perform at a level that entices an employer to pay you more. Working at a fast food establishment is a chance to show what you can do. Without that chance, you might not have an opportunity to excel. One who has been dealt a bad hand also has family memebers, friends, their church, etc. to help them out. Why is it the very establishment that has taken a risk by hiring a person has to also ensure they maintain a standard of living they desire. Who knows what that standard of living is? These jobs are for younger individuals with not a lot of expenses. If you are older and that is your only choice, you have made a bad choice somewhere down the line. Even if you haven't, there are employers willing to give an older adult more of a chance than a younger person. But the reality is, if you don't like the wages they are paying, don't work there. It's simple.
Needed

Banner Elk, NC

#34 Nov 1, 2013
Pop. Are you that dense? The topic is welfare. If a large corporation that makes billions of dollars tells their employees they will assist them when they try to get food stamps or heating assistance... YOU as a taxpayer are subsidizing that company. The U.S. government gives large corporations including corporate farms over $100B in "corporate welfare" while it spends $60B in social welfare. if we were to add the people that work at Walmart and McDonalds who qualify and take advantage of these programs to the "corporate welfare" figures theres no telling what it would be. I say help poor people. You say screw them. You are misguided and I sincerely hope misfortune does not find you.
LOL

United States

#35 Nov 1, 2013
The obama welfare voters are reaping what they voted for/sowed and still dreaming they will never lose their freebee handouts and never having to work.

After all this is what the welfare prez ran on and got elected on twice. The plantation slave masters are back in control with history repeating itself.

Pop

United States

#36 Nov 1, 2013
Needed wrote:
Pop. Are you that dense? The topic is welfare. If a large corporation that makes billions of dollars tells their employees they will assist them when they try to get food stamps or heating assistance... YOU as a taxpayer are subsidizing that company. The U.S. government gives large corporations including corporate farms over $100B in "corporate welfare" while it spends $60B in social welfare. if we were to add the people that work at Walmart and McDonalds who qualify and take advantage of these programs to the "corporate welfare" figures theres no telling what it would be. I say help poor people. You say screw them. You are misguided and I sincerely hope misfortune does not find you.
Are you that dense? You obviously don't understand the welfare and food stamp programs. The money for these programs is already budgeted and appropriated. If a McDonald's employee doesn't get some of it, somebody else will. Welfare and Food Stamp payments are not going up simply because McDonald's is assisting their employees in getting some of it. With your philosophy, if an employee of Microsoft was getting food stamps for some reason, you would think Microsoft is being subsidized. When you spend more than you make, you are poor. This happens at all income levels. It was my understanding that McDonald's was assisting employees with budgeting their expenses.

You would opt to make the minimum wage $20.00 per hour. Are you willing to pay double for things such as hamburgers, retail goods, food, etc? Most people are not. Companies would go out of business in droves due to this less of a demand. What I am saying is if you aren't capable of earning what you are calling a "living wage", then you have to lower your standard of living. Get rid of the cell phone, cable tv, the flat screen tv, ride the bus, etc. Today, Americans aren't willing to do that and you want employers simply to foot the bill. This won't ever happen because it can't.
Retired

Johnson City, TN

#37 Nov 1, 2013
Pop wrote:
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Lots of people have been dealt a bad hand. Working at McDonald's is a choice, not a mandate. Even having been dealt a bad hand, it is up to you to convince an employer you are worth higher than minimum wage and actually perform at a level that entices an employer to pay you more. Working at a fast food establishment is a chance to show what you can do. Without that chance, you might not have an opportunity to excel. One who has been dealt a bad hand also has family memebers, friends, their church, etc. to help them out. Why is it the very establishment that has taken a risk by hiring a person has to also ensure they maintain a standard of living they desire. Who knows what that standard of living is? These jobs are for younger individuals with not a lot of expenses. If you are older and that is your only choice, you have made a bad choice somewhere down the line. Even if you haven't, there are employers willing to give an older adult more of a chance than a younger person. But the reality is, if you don't like the wages they are paying, don't work there. It's simple.
I think welfare was intended to help but not be a long term fix. I must admit things are different than they were 30-40 years ago. I bet you are retired and probably had a pie job or didn't have to pay for your own healthcare insurance. Today's job market is tough. Remember manufacturing job losses in last 10-15 years hurt many. Even easy pie jobs like inside sales and clerical feel the pinch. Pop needs a reality check but I do agree on some of what you say.
Just Sayin

Katy, TX

#38 Nov 1, 2013
Needed wrote:
Pop. Are you that dense? The topic is welfare. If a large corporation that makes billions of dollars tells their employees they will assist them when they try to get food stamps or heating assistance... YOU as a taxpayer are subsidizing that company. The U.S. government gives large corporations including corporate farms over $100B in "corporate welfare" while it spends $60B in social welfare. if we were to add the people that work at Walmart and McDonalds who qualify and take advantage of these programs to the "corporate welfare" figures theres no telling what it would be. I say help poor people. You say screw them. You are misguided and I sincerely hope misfortune does not find you.
What you don't understand is that "misfortune" doesn't affect educated, skilled, motivated and responsible people in the same way it affects the Welfare deadbeats in our society. You see, when a responsible adult is faced with misfortune they don't stick their hand out to the taxpayers for a handout, they turn to their savings account and other resources such as the insurance they pay premiums for, you know, those things responsible people have to be prepared for a rainy day.

The poor, for the most part, are poor because they have made poor choices throughout their lives, not taking advantage of America's free public education, not working hard while they are young to gain work experience and skills. Not planning their family and waiting to have babies after they have established a career or at least have a strong marriage and the financial ability to support their babies.

As the others are saying, the employers should not be expected to support anyone according to the lifestyle they want to live, it is up to the individual to prepare themselves and plan their lives so the income their employment is worth is enough to support them and their lifestyle. If that is not the case with the employer they have (McDonald's or Walmart for example) they should be looking to get a better job, work two jobs or lower their standard of living accordingly. The taxpayers should not be made responsible for their poor choices that made them "poor."
Dreamin

United States

#39 Nov 1, 2013
Retired wrote:
<quoted text>I think welfare was intended to help but not be a long term fix. I must admit things are different than they were 30-40 years ago. I bet you are retired and probably had a pie job or didn't have to pay for your own healthcare insurance. Today's job market is tough. Remember manufacturing job losses in last 10-15 years hurt many. Even easy pie jobs like inside sales and clerical feel the pinch. Pop needs a reality check but I do agree on some of what you say.
Yes, I am retired. I am not well off by any means and have at times had a hard time feeding and housing my family. Fortunately, those times are past me. The reason they are past me is because I finally learned that a good work ethic and taking the initiative to learn skills that employers can use is the best way to increase income. It took me a while, but I finally learned it. If I would have relied on the government safety net through the hard times, I would have never learned these lessons. I am simply trying to keep someone else from making the mistakes I did. Relying on governmental assistance programs makes you destined to poverty. Government assistance programs are addictive. Government assistance programs are not free, somebody is paying for them. The people paying for them are the exact same people you want more wages from. This is not rocket science.
Morals

Johnson City, TN

#40 Nov 1, 2013
This mother thinks Pop is right. I think we have had a moral breakdown since late 80's. We now make excuses for laziness and sin. We live in a throw away society teaching generations it's ok to cheat, steal and kill. We have a President who supports the Muslim faith, laziness and abortion(murder). Abortion not only destroys the baby but the mothers life and her family's life. My sister was married to a man who he made his 17 year old have an abortion it still haunts her to this day 21 years later and has had negative effect on her marriages. Her 2nd husband left because he could not handle it. We don't want to be bothered with jobs or children so we lay on our asses and persuade our children to kill. My ex- brother in law was an SOB who didn't want to be bothered. God will deal with the unjust. Get in church, get a job and if you or your children get pregnant do the right and responsible thing. Don't destroy future generations as I've seen abortion do.

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