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Sep 17, 2012
 

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Sunday's Johnson City Press was quoting former city commissioner Dan Mahoney complaining about the tax breaks Bass Pro Shop will be getting. This is funny since the TAX and SPEND COMMISSIONER GAVE NO THOUGHT to this regarding other businesses when he was commissioner.
Of course there were many Mahoney blunders. As he was quoted in the 90's its just business.
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Sep 19, 2012
 
It might be "just business" but it's unfair
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Sep 19, 2012
 
Competition is healthy! If this makes Mahoney's prices more in line with other stores, it's a plus for consumers.
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Sep 19, 2012
 
Competition Welcome wrote:
Competition is healthy! If this makes Mahoney's prices more in line with other stores, it's a plus for consumers.
It won't. They're to prideful & greedy. They'll price themselves outta business
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Sep 20, 2012
 
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It won't. They're to prideful & greedy. They'll price themselves outta business
I would not be so sure about that. They have been in business for many years and are still going strong
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Sep 21, 2012
 
if bass pro, and cabelas both come to town all the small shops will close up, they can not compete with a store that deals in such volume. watc and see i give them and other small outdoor type stores maybe a year after the other stores open,
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Mahoney's has been the "only game in town" for so many years, and they have made their fortune many times over. Competition will be good. Mahoney's will have to lower their prices, or go home.
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Sep 21, 2012
 
Competition Welcome wrote:
Competition is healthy! If this makes Mahoney's prices more in line with other stores, it's a plus for consumers.
Not only does Cabela's and Bass Pro get a discount for volume buying, they get (essentially) a free building. If Dan were to receive (free)$20 million to build a new store, THEN it would be a fair competition.

Having said that, I'd bet that Mahoney's is somehow keeping Mast out of Johnson City.
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As a small business owner & somebody that has past political experience, Dan Mahoney should know how this works. Corporations will receive any & all entitlements and the benefits that come with them, while small businesses will have to scratch & claw their way to stability. Bass Pro Shop & Cabella's will employ more people, with better benefits, & will help level off pricing through competition. Mahoney was upset when Dick's sporting goods moved into the J.C. Mall down from him & he will always be upset whenever another competitor comes in to make him evaluate & adjust his pricing. I remember his political terms & the team that he was on always attempted to stagnate Johnson City with no Corporate growth & no plan of growth for the future. He is a typical politician, and he will do what is best for himself & himself only. Get over it Dan, you are starting to sound like a Cry Baby. It should be what is best for the citizens of Tri Cities & not for the 15-20 employees at Mahoney's.
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Ironic wrote:
As a small business owner & somebody that has past political experience, Dan Mahoney should know how this works. Corporations will receive any & all entitlements and the benefits that come with them, while small businesses will have to scratch & claw their way to stability. Bass Pro Shop & Cabella's will employ more people, with better benefits, & will help level off pricing through competition. Mahoney was upset when Dick's sporting goods moved into the J.C. Mall down from him & he will always be upset whenever another competitor comes in to make him evaluate & adjust his pricing. I remember his political terms & the team that he was on always attempted to stagnate Johnson City with no Corporate growth & no plan of growth for the future. He is a typical politician, and he will do what is best for himself & himself only. Get over it Dan, you are starting to sound like a Cry Baby. It should be what is best for the citizens of Tri Cities & not for the 15-20 employees at Mahoney's.
Agree..he sounds like most politicians who are just out for themselves and their wealthy buddies.
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Most of you don't even know the terms of what exactly enticed both Cabelas and Bass Pro Shops to come here. The property tax incentive was one thing, but the sales tax incentive was the other. In short, the local portion of the sales tax won't be local. So if the community is not getting any property tax or sales tax, what is the benefit other than a few jobs? In short, all local citizens are paying for both stores to be here. Maybe its a good thing, but maybe its not. The BPS in Sevierville has a large store, but everything around it went out of business.

Dan's political philosophies are not the issue here. His issue is why a community has decided to support one business and not others through their tax payments. Both stores profits aren't even staying in the local community. It just seems like there is a better way to create jobs than to spend over $30 million for 60 jobs. For example, the state could have created 5 or 6 discount tobacco stores that sell lottery tickets and created the same amount of jobs for a whole lot less. Those are the businesses that thrive around here.

You may not agree with Dan's political motives, but at least he dedicated his personal time to serve. How many of you have done community service? Don't knock him for trying to improve the community by volunteering his time. If you didn't like what he was doing while in office, then you serve the community for a while.
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From what I've read, this is more than just a "few jobs". When all is said and done the entire complex will employ up to 2000 people so would be well worth spending a little money up front. To the people who say move into a vacant building somewhere in town that doesn't make any sense from a business perspective..they need to be on the interstate to get travel business and be the tourist attraction they want to be. They tried this whole thing about a big store running small stores out of business with Walmart too but that didnt happen and it won't happen with Bass Pro. Some local merchants need to get more realistic with their prices and this will give another outlet to help with healthy competition and reduce gouging of consumers.
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Sep 23, 2012
 
?huh
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A tourist attraction? I would rather try to fart nails than spend time in any of those stores.
fishing = bored in a boat
hunting = bored in a tree
camping = bored in a tarp
archery = bored at WJHL
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hmm wrote:
A tourist attraction? I would rather try to fart nails than spend time in any of those stores.
fishing = bored in a boat
hunting = bored in a tree
camping = bored in a tarp
archery = bored at WJHL
Well if you don't want to go you shouldnt go. But Bass Pro does just under $2B in annual sales so it appears millions of other people do enjoy going and it would help our local economy so I don't see a downside to this.
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Sep 24, 2012
 
The downside is that I don't want my tax dollars going towards the construction of that store, I agree with Dan on that. And if the local sales tax isn't staying here, then there's not much return on investment to the area from my taxes being invested in that store.

It's corporate welfare, and they don't provide any kind of public service or provide any kind of critical supplies to our area. If they made $2B in sales last year, they have plenty of cash to build a tourist attraction on their own withouth my taxes. And if they're not willing to invest their own dollars in the building, it probably tells you something about their internal projections for how much this store is really going to add to the local economy and their bottom line.
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Lana wrote:
Mahoney's has been the "only game in town" for so many years, and they have made their fortune many times over. Competition will be good. Mahoney's will have to lower their prices, or go home.
They can go home.....they have done great! They can retire their business and do well. However, there is a lot to be said for dealing with the same employees for years,ones who know exactley what they're talking about instead of some young teenager who was thrown out on the floor with no knowledge of anything about the outdoor sports! Trust me, I know
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BEAR wrote:
<quoted text>They can go home.....they have done great! They can retire their business and do well. However, there is a lot to be said for dealing with the same employees for years,ones who know exactley what they're talking about instead of some young teenager who was thrown out on the floor with no knowledge of anything about the outdoor sports! Trust me, I know
how do u know?
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Sep 25, 2012
 
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The downside is that I don't want my tax dollars going towards the construction of that store, I agree with Dan on that. And if the local sales tax isn't staying here, then there's not much return on investment to the area from my taxes being invested in that store.
It's corporate welfare, and they don't provide any kind of public service or provide any kind of critical supplies to our area. If they made $2B in sales last year, they have plenty of cash to build a tourist attraction on their own withouth my taxes. And if they're not willing to invest their own dollars in the building, it probably tells you something about their internal projections for how much this store is really going to add to the local economy and their bottom line.
Me, me, me...that's the problem with society anymore. If you don't see a direct benefit to yourself and your own bottom line you don't want it. Regardless of getting 2000 more jobs up and going in an already depressed job market. Regardless of the economic benefit those 2000 people will provide to the economy now that they have money to spend. Regardless of the economic boom this tourist attraction will provide to Bristol with people (one million+) not only going to Bass Pro but who will also patronize the local hotels, eateries, other stores, etc. Sometimes you just have to look past your own selfishness to see the benefits.
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Where does the 2000 jobs number come from? I only see estimates of 250-300 employed by Bass Pro. I'm guessing 95% of their merchandise will be sourced from their national supply chain, and that at best only 30% of the construction work will be sourced from the Tri Cities. And those jobs are temporary so they don't count much in the long run analysis. So if Sullivan County gives $25M, that's costing us $100,000 for each job created.

You're hoping that a halo effect will result in people staying and eating in the local area, but I would like see an economic impact study by an unbiased 3rd party like ETSU rather than the fantasy numbers from Bass Pro's PR firm.

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