Mountain States Health Alliance Says ...
Just me

Jonesborough, TN

#143 Mar 14, 2013
Over 80% of the public has MRSA in their nasal cavities. People pick their nasty noses and touch everything. It is in their homes, too. This isn't just a hospital problem.
marlboroman

Jonesborough, TN

#144 Mar 14, 2013
wonder woman wrote:
<quoted text>You may be correct on this but obesity doesn't affect others the way smoking does. And yes I am overweight.
Yes obesity does affect others. Most of the same conditions listed earlier are also caused by being obese. Whether its a cigarettes or a cupcake the results are the same. The weapon is just different. My point being it affects the cost of health care. Those who choose a healthy lifestyle pay for those who don't. It will catch up to you at some point and those pill bottles rattling in your purse are not the answer. Just like picking up a pack of cigarettes isn't. The last time I visited a MSHA facility my nurse was extremely overweight and out of breath from pushing me to X-ray in a wheel. I had a sinus infection and a lung infection as well being a pack a day smoker at the time. I'm quite sure I could have ran circles around her at the time. I since quit smoking for my own reasoning. I do feel being a health related organization they should first be concerned about her health and not the ones on a cigarette break. Unless of course she smoked as well. This is America though, we each live as we choose. But why should it affect how we make a living. Both points are contradictory to themselves. I highly doubt anyone can even see that.
cleaninguphospit al

Johnson City, TN

#145 Mar 14, 2013
Just me..........You are 100 percent wrong! What has been written can be proven. No one said YOU were doing drugs, now did they?
Just me

Jonesborough, TN

#146 Mar 14, 2013
cleaninguphospital wrote:
Just me..........You are 100 percent wrong! What has been written can be proven. No one said YOU were doing drugs, now did they?
Yes. Furious George insinuated I was part of the problem.
And I am not wrong. I was part of a conducting a study at another hospital. People have MRSA in their noses before they ever enter the hospital. Also, I haven't ever seen a family member wash their hands, but I have seen them lay all over family members who do not have intact skin and who are compromised.
cleaninguphospit al

Johnson City, TN

#147 Mar 14, 2013
Just me..........I read the post as you are possibly part of the problem with the JCMC not have their priorities in the right order. You protesteth too much.
If you haven't seen a family member wash their hands, then your study was flawed, or you were not at the JCMC.

My opinion is you are part of the problem. You dismiss serious issues and concentrate on your nose picking.

Have you had friends/family die of MRSA at the JCMC?

Are you aware of what steps must be taken to totally clear a room of MRSA after an infected person has been in the room?
Just me

Jonesborough, TN

#148 Mar 15, 2013
cleaninguphospital wrote:
Just me..........I read the post as you are possibly part of the problem with the JCMC not have their priorities in the right order. You protesteth too much.
If you haven't seen a family member wash their hands, then your study was flawed, or you were not at the JCMC.
My opinion is you are part of the problem. You dismiss serious issues and concentrate on your nose picking.
Have you had friends/family die of MRSA at the JCMC?
Are you aware of what steps must be taken to totally clear a room of MRSA after an infected person has been in the room?
I am a RN. I have been a nurse long enough to say I am experienced. Since you obviously do not have any idea how difficult it is and how high the level of commitment must be to have a license, I'm going to pretend you are not trying to insult me. To say I am possibly part of the problem is ridiculous. Nurses, doctors, and other healthcare professionals don't want infected patients. We go to school and work long shifts to help people. Our priority is the patient.
Although in all my years, I haven't seen a family member wash their hands, the study in which I was a part wasn't about washing hands. It was one in which patients noses were swabbed as they were admitted to assess the amount of MRSA already present in patients as they entered the hospital. During the study, all the patients who "got MRSA" already had it in their noses when they were admitted. You can't blame hospitals for that.
If you have a problem with JCMC, then take them to court and do something about it. However, this isn't a JCMC problem. This is happening all over the country. This is a public health education issue. MRSA doesn't just exist in hospitals. Clearing the room is irrelevant if the family brings germs to the clean room and touches everything in the hospital with nasty hands. If patients aren't washing their own hands, the same results follow.
You seem to want to blame me for something that happened in which I was not a part. I wash my hands. I presented you with a documented, journaled explanation for the spread of MRSA, but since the blame doesn't rest only on JCMC, you don't want to hear it.
I am not longer going to be a part of this discussion with you. You have an agenda and want to try to blame me, a complete stranger for this problem. I strongly suggest you look into grief counseling. Before you go, wash you hands.:)
cleaninguphospit al

Johnson City, TN

#149 Mar 15, 2013
My comments were not all directed at you.
Grief counseling?? for me?? Advising me to take the JCMC to court? Seriously???

If you are an RN and not working by choice, please, please keep doing so.

My point is the JCMC has far worse and much more dangerous issues to be addressed before they address smoking.

Example: inside the foyer is a red phone to call for a ride to the parking lot, but no wipes to clean the phone prior to use. Yes, there is a hand sanitizer dispenser, but that can't clean the phone which has every person who used the phones germs on it.

The JCMC doesn't pass the sniff test from the time you enter the hospital.

I appreciate all the hard working, caring nurses who work long hours. You don't pass that test, you take everything as being toward you personally and blame the PATIENTS for everything.

Did you ever report an impaired health worker? Or did you wear your blinders (after you washed your hands).
Yinzer

Cookeville, TN

#150 Mar 15, 2013
Wouldn't it be nice if they focused on their staph infection problems they spread to every patient instead? That said, as much as I despise cigarette smoke and the smell, more offensive are the obese employees. They can be a danger in direct patient care as they are very cumbersome and get in the way. Their body habitus prevents them from moving quickly. They waste too much paid time in front of vending machines and in the bathroom from their bad food choices. I'm just saying....
cleaninguphospit al

Johnson City, TN

#151 Mar 15, 2013
Yinzer, I agree. How about a sensible rule, that each employee must come to work without any offensive smell......clean, no left over beer scent from partying.

The larger employees from what I have seen can not perform simple tasks due to their size. I feel sorry for them, but size is an issure.

Overall, I have not noticed many of the employees smelling offensive. MRSA is a lot more deadly than an offensive scent.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#152 Mar 24, 2013
The statistics below, from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, may help you make your point about the dangers secondhand smoke poses:
•Between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections (for children under 18 months of age); and,
•Respiratory tract infections resulting in 7,500 to 15,000 hospitalizations each year.
• An increase inthe number of asthma attacks and severity of symptoms in children with asthma.

A report from the International Union Against Cancer listed the following risks of secondhand smoke:
•An increased risk of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)
•A 20 percent increased risk of low birth weight (when the mother smokes)
•An increased risk of ear infections
•An increased risk of respiratory infections; young children who are exposed to second-hand smoke are more likely to be hospitalized for a serious respiratory illness.
•A 23 percent increased risk of asthma
•A 27 percent increased risk of chronic cough
•Decreased risk of lung function and increased risk of respiratory problems in adulthood
landms

Bristol, VA

#153 Mar 27, 2013
F*ckem thats what i say!!

Since: Mar 13

United States

#154 Mar 28, 2013
I think this is good. I have horrible allergies and asthma & If I'm around anyone who smokes, even if they aren't doing it in front of me, I choke up and have problems breathing because of the smell. A heavy smoker could be dangerous for someone who is having serious lung conditions. If it were a store or something like that I would think it wouldn't matter what people do on their own time but in a medical facility I think it would be great! It would also cut down on the cost that the company has to pay for medical insurance which could possibly mean more money to hire additional employees. A good idea!
employee

Johnson City, TN

#155 Apr 7, 2013
I am a non smoking Msha employee. I dont agree with the rule at all. They make us see the patients that walk through the door that smell like smoke. What about the patients that smoke and they are presenting for asthma and smoked all the way to the ER or doctors office. Or the patient that is on TNcare but afforded to buy cigarettes? Come on now its fair both ways. If we have to stop than the patients should too.. what is fair is fair..
Facts is facts

Johnson City, TN

#156 Apr 7, 2013
employee wrote:
I am a non smoking Msha employee. I dont agree with the rule at all. They make us see the patients that walk through the door that smell like smoke. What about the patients that smoke and they are presenting for asthma and smoked all the way to the ER or doctors office. Or the patient that is on TNcare but afforded to buy cigarettes? Come on now its fair both ways. If we have to stop than the patients should too.. what is fair is fair..
MSHA can not control the patients, but they can control their employees !
Pop

Jonesborough, TN

#157 Apr 7, 2013
employee wrote:
I am a non smoking Msha employee. I dont agree with the rule at all. They make us see the patients that walk through the door that smell like smoke. What about the patients that smoke and they are presenting for asthma and smoked all the way to the ER or doctors office. Or the patient that is on TNcare but afforded to buy cigarettes? Come on now its fair both ways. If we have to stop than the patients should too.. what is fair is fair..
What's fair is fair? You work, you get paid and get benefits. Now you want to dictate who they hire? You don't like it, work somewhere else.
Markus2

Knoxville, TN

#158 Apr 8, 2013
Well Im fat and I smoke and due to my excellent nursing skills I might just one day save you mother, wife, husband like I did on my last shift when someones husband died on the table and thanks to my skills they are alive and breathing now. So take that and stick it up your ass and smoke it!
employee

Morristown, TN

#159 Apr 8, 2013
Maybe you should read my post again your a patient that smokes and you come to the ER with an asthma attack but you smoked all the way to the ER or doctors office than we should not be able to treat you. Common sense people if you cant breath their is a reason. I just don't agree yes i work for them and get paid and its crappy pay considering our insurance too..
SmOkInG is NoT Illegal
Pop

Jonesborough, TN

#161 Apr 8, 2013
employee wrote:
Maybe you should read my post again your a patient that smokes and you come to the ER with an asthma attack but you smoked all the way to the ER or doctors office than we should not be able to treat you. Common sense people if you cant breath their is a reason. I just don't agree yes i work for them and get paid and its crappy pay considering our insurance too..
SmOkInG is NoT Illegal
Then you have the right to go work somewhere just like they have the right to hire who they want. This is America and medicine isn't socialized yet.
Pop

Jonesborough, TN

#162 Apr 8, 2013
Markus2 wrote:
Well Im fat and I smoke and due to my excellent nursing skills I might just one day save you mother, wife, husband like I did on my last shift when someones husband died on the table and thanks to my skills they are alive and breathing now. So take that and stick it up your ass and smoke it!
Sir, you're not going to be on this earth long enough to worry about. You stick it to yourself with your choices in life and the part about you saving a life means nothing when you are killing yourself.
Markus2

Knoxville, TN

#164 Apr 9, 2013
Hope you don't end up in the ER pop with a heart attack like the healthy man I coded he was out jogging and fell over with a massive coronary. Family wondered why him he was so healthy. Life deals us things. Quitting smoking is not easy and I didn't say being overweight is healthy but Im tired of people worrying about my damn business. People need to get a life and worry about their own instead of what everybody else is doing.

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