Medical Center drops employee insurance

Medical Center drops employee insurance

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Wow

Kingsport, TN

#1 Mar 29, 2014
It's over. MSHA informed all employees that if they are not full time they are losing their insurance. Going to try to pay off their billion dolla' debt on the backs of their employees.
Huh

Elizabethton, TN

#2 Mar 29, 2014
Wow wrote:
It's over. MSHA informed all employees that if they are not full time they are losing their insurance. Going to try to pay off their billion dolla' debt on the backs of their employees.
How many companies have you heard of that pays part time employees benefits? Are you kidding? Welcome to the real world. I can't believe MSHA actually did this for a while. You sound like a spoiled employee.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#3 Mar 29, 2014
MSHA is a horrible company to work for. What Wow didn't mention is that in addition to discontinuing benefits, they've also made it impossible for any part time employees to convert to full time and maintain their benefits since they are using a 6 month look back formula to determine full time status. Since they've given only 3 months notice of this disgusting policy change, they've insured all part time employees will have at least a 3 month lapse in coverage.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#4 Mar 29, 2014
Huh wrote:
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How many companies have you heard of that pays part time employees benefits? Are you kidding? Welcome to the real world. I can't believe MSHA actually did this for a while. You sound like a spoiled employee.
FWIW, It's not at all uncommon for companies to make insurance and other benefits available to part time employees. The sad fact here is that MSHA is in serious financial trouble and this is just one more way for them to cut some expenses. I would expect to see Sycamore Shoals close soon and watch for MSHA to weasel out of the Erwin Hospital deal as well.
Awful

Jonesborough, TN

#5 Mar 29, 2014
MSHA cares nothing about their employees.. Their livelihood or their patients for that matter! One day you have a job and the next day you don't! No loyalty.. Not a care or concern in the world accept whats best for them!
Duh Huh

Kingsport, TN

#6 Mar 29, 2014
Hey, Huh. You sound like one of the MSHA communications minions who is hanging on for your life.

Hospitals typically offer benefits to 30 hour employees to lure them to stay with the hospital. This new decision will result in many formally valued team members headed for higher ground.
Huh

Elizabethton, TN

#7 Mar 29, 2014
Duh Huh wrote:
Hey, Huh. You sound like one of the MSHA communications minions who is hanging on for your life.
Hospitals typically offer benefits to 30 hour employees to lure them to stay with the hospital. This new decision will result in many formally valued team members headed for higher ground.
First, I am not associated with MSHA in any way. However, I have been affiliated various healthcare organizations across the country and am affiliated with a non-MHSA healthcare organization now.

What you are seeing is what is now being experienced to various degrees by most all healthcare organizations. Due to the ACA, healthcare organizations will be receiving less revenues. Less revenues means a necessity to lower costs. Some of these cost decreases will come in the form of compensation to employees. Healthcare is no different than any other business. Many healthcare organizations are simply laying off part time workers and some are laying off a lot of full time workers. ACA cuts in Medicare and Medicaid resulted in less money going to healthcare organizations.

In my opinion, MHSA has not managed costs very well over time and they are not in a position to absorb a whole lot of revenue decreases, especially when government funding is being limited. Have you seen what happened to Detroit after the near collapse of the auto industry in this nation? Remember when oil prices had a steep decline and what that did to areas like Houston? This is no different.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#8 Mar 29, 2014
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>First, I am not associated with MSHA in any way. However, I have been affiliated various healthcare organizations across the country and am affiliated with a non-MHSA healthcare organization now.

What you are seeing is what is now being experienced to various degrees by most all healthcare organizations. Due to the ACA, healthcare organizations will be receiving less revenues. Less revenues means a necessity to lower costs. Some of these cost decreases will come in the form of compensation to employees. Healthcare is no different than any other business. Many healthcare organizations are simply laying off part time workers and some are laying off a lot of full time workers. ACA cuts in Medicare and Medicaid resulted in less money going to healthcare organizations.

In my opinion, MHSA has not managed costs very well over time and they are not in a position to absorb a whole lot of revenue decreases, especially when government funding is being limited. Have you seen what happened to Detroit after the near collapse of the auto industry in this nation? Remember when oil prices had a steep decline and what that did to areas like Houston? This is no different.
One main problem with MSHA is that the king has been allowed to sit on the hill in his crystal palace above the little people and receive a ton of money for being there. Administration of MSHA makes entirely too much money in my opinion. Fix that part and they could be one step closer to fixing other financial issues.
haha

Asheboro, NC

#9 Mar 30, 2014
lrw14 wrote:
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One main problem with MSHA is that the king has been allowed to sit on the hill in his crystal palace above the little people and receive a ton of money for being there. Administration of MSHA makes entirely too much money in my opinion. Fix that part and they could be one step closer to fixing other financial issues.
Maybe if they had some of that multi-million dollar bonus they gave Dennis von der Fart the year before he quit back they could continue to provide benefits.
Indepentently Wealthy

United States

#10 Mar 30, 2014
obamacare is everywhere....you get what you vote for idiots...
nurse

Kingsport, TN

#11 Mar 30, 2014
VonDerFark drove it into the ground and jumped ship. The new CEO obviously was desperate for a new position or he would never have agreed to come here....or he is just ignorant.

Bad days ahead for us all. Unicoi got hosed.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#12 Mar 30, 2014
nurse wrote:
VonDerFark drove it into the ground and jumped ship. The new CEO obviously was desperate for a new position or he would never have agreed to come here....or he is just ignorant.
Bad days ahead for us all. Unicoi got hosed.
I don't think you can blame this all on VonderFrack, it's embedded in the culture of the management at MSHA.
teacher

Johnson City, TN

#13 Mar 30, 2014
EnufAlready wrote:
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I don't think you can blame this all on VonderFrack, it's embedded in the culture of the management at MSHA.
Also, the state of Tennessee has rejected the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Health Care Act. Your tax dollars aren't coming back to Tennessee because of our legislature and Haslam. Hospitals won't get paid for the treatment of the uninsured, so as in some other states, some hospitals will close. Trying to get a monoply on the health care in upper East Tennessee dug a big hole also. It is sad that our governor has rejected our tax dollars, but our fine GOP wants it that way and we are $crewed.
NC TN

Mountain City, TN

#14 Mar 31, 2014
teacher wrote:
<quoted text>Also, the state of Tennessee has rejected the Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Health Care Act. Your tax dollars aren't coming back to Tennessee because of our legislature and Haslam. Hospitals won't get paid for the treatment of the uninsured, so as in some other states, some hospitals will close. Trying to get a monoply on the health care in upper East Tennessee dug a big hole also. It is sad that our governor has rejected our tax dollars, but our fine GOP wants it that way and we are $crewed.
Republicans are lame.
Patient

Johnson City, TN

#15 Mar 31, 2014
EnufAlready wrote:
MSHA is a horrible company to work for. What Wow didn't mention is that in addition to discontinuing benefits, they've also made it impossible for any part time employees to convert to full time and maintain their benefits since they are using a 6 month look back formula to determine full time status. Since they've given only 3 months notice of this disgusting policy change, they've insured all part time employees will have at least a 3 month lapse in coverage.
You guys should be well off now. I just finished paying a little over 16,000. From my 20 percent copay. Somebody got a check for over 880,000. While I was staying at your resort I thought you people hated me for being there. Now after reading your comments I know you did not hate me. You hated your job. In return I will join in and hate your hospital too. I promise to never seek medical attention in Johnson City again. If an ambulance has to get me and I am coherent I will request welmont.
Patient

Johnson City, TN

#16 Mar 31, 2014
880000 was a typo. The total amount paid was a little over 80,000.
Sorry about your health

Abingdon, VA

#17 Mar 31, 2014
Patient wrote:
<quoted text> You guys should be well off now. I just finished paying a little over 16,000. From my 20 percent copay. Somebody got a check for over 880,000. While I was staying at your resort I thought you people hated me for being there. Now after reading your comments I know you did not hate me. You hated your job. In return I will join in and hate your hospital too. I promise to never seek medical attention in Johnson City again. If an ambulance has to get me and I am coherent I will request welmont.
I am sorry about your health issues but a ride to Bristol may not be much better. If you are forced to go to Bristol you probably won't get to choose Kingsport next time (hope not). I am not trying to be mean or anything it just seems to me our choices as a community are limited. Its like we have to choose who you want to be screwed by the government or a company. We do get to make the choice though.

Any body know any good Veterinarians?:-)
Say What

Elizabethton, TN

#18 Mar 31, 2014
Has anyone heard if layoffs are coming again? I've heard mumblings in regards to layoffs around summer time.
MSHA's budget has been cut across the board for all departments and it just got tighter.

Since: Mar 14

Johnson City, TN

#19 Apr 2, 2014
It seems MSHA may have realized it's policy change was a little too harsh. It's rumored they sent out an email to department managers basically allowing part-time with benefit employees to transition to full time with benefits (where positions are available) without being evaluated by the 6-month look back rule on or before 7/1/14. This, however, still does not change the fact that it is a horrible company to work for. I think, perhaps, the potential for bad press may have had an effect in this particular case, especially on the heals of the change that stopped the accrual of PTO for salaried employees.
JC Fan

Elizabethton, TN

#20 Apr 2, 2014
EnufAlready wrote:
It seems MSHA may have realized it's policy change was a little too harsh. It's rumored they sent out an email to department managers basically allowing part-time with benefit employees to transition to full time with benefits (where positions are available) without being evaluated by the 6-month look back rule on or before 7/1/14. This, however, still does not change the fact that it is a horrible company to work for. I think, perhaps, the potential for bad press may have had an effect in this particular case, especially on the heals of the change that stopped the accrual of PTO for salaried employees.
Here's an idea. If you don't like their policies, don't work there. Nobody is forcing you to accept a job there. Quit whining, geez!

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