Gvt. shutdown............so what?

Gvt. shutdown............so what?

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The Wind

Kingsport, TN

#1 Oct 1, 2013
I really don't see much being affected by the "shutdown" for the average American. The monies needed to keep the gvt. afloat are still in affect. The Congressmen still get paid, the pet projects still are funded, mail is still delivered, etc. Sure, you can't go visit a federal park, but who does anyway? Maybe a shutdown is for the best. The stock market is going to go hog wild over it.......just another excuse to jive us all. While the parties feud with one another, I guarantee big money is making a profit from it. I say, let the gvt. shut down for no less than 120 days. We may see some benefit from it, but with the usual strings attached. Can't get much worse than it is already. Somebody is going to have to bring their marbles back to the childish game.
Ed Smith

Knoxville, TN

#2 Oct 1, 2013
I agree. Let's try it for a year or so, and see if we really miss it.
We the people

United States

#3 Oct 1, 2013
This government is so big and corrupt and deficit needs cutting and this shutdown may make the dictators in charge wake up and talk and not rule but don't bet on it. Dictators never listen until too late.
AAhh

Jonesborough, TN

#4 Oct 1, 2013
This happens every decade or so. It's not a big deal, unless you happen to be one of the people furloughed without pay. But a lot of them probably welcome the time off. At least it will save some money for a few days. It's being overblown. It's happened several times before and nothing bad happened. Everything essential keeps running. Lighten up folks.
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#5 Oct 1, 2013
Our economy could contract .03% if the gov't continues to be shut down for two weeks. That is bad. Millions of Fedaeral workers and their families are affected. No big deal? Republicans are lame.
no govment needed

United States

#6 Oct 1, 2013
AAhh wrote:
This happens every decade or so. It's not a big deal, unless you happen to be one of the people furloughed without pay. But a lot of them probably welcome the time off. At least it will save some money for a few days. It's being overblown. It's happened several times before and nothing bad happened. Everything essential keeps running. Lighten up folks.
Many of those jobs are salary jobs and will not miss a cent of their pay. Maybe just maybe this will cut the national debt 5 cents but never get your hopes up for any change for the people, we have become complacent for being lied to.
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#7 Oct 1, 2013
no govment needed wrote:
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Many of those jobs are salary jobs and will not miss a cent of their pay. Maybe just maybe this will cut the national debt 5 cents but never get your hopes up for any change for the people, we have become complacent for being lied to.
Reagan was against Medicare. Are you against that? Reagan raised the debt limit numerous times? That OK? Reagan raised taxes 11 times. You for that? Reagan even said the he didn't worry about the deficit because "its big enough to take care of itself." What about that?
Reagan is dead get overit

United States

#8 Oct 1, 2013
Server wrote:
<quoted text> Reagan was against Medicare. Are you against that? Reagan raised the debt limit numerous times? That OK? Reagan raised taxes 11 times. You for that? Reagan even said the he didn't worry about the deficit because "its big enough to take care of itself." What about that?
The potus is obama, so you believe in spend spend spend spend and never pay back? Thought so! You communist lib socialist have no common sense or decency. Just make up more bs and lies and demand everyone to believe it and follow like sheep. Grow up and grow a set of responsibility.
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#9 Oct 1, 2013
Reagan is dead get overit wrote:
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The potus is obama, so you believe in spend spend spend spend and never pay back? Thought so! You communist lib socialist have no common sense or decency. Just make up more bs and lies and demand everyone to believe it and follow like sheep. Grow up and grow a set of responsibility.
I mis-posted the Reagan quotes. They were meant to respond to another tread. It seems the Republicans are the ones that don't want to pay back. They got the credit rating of the U.S. downgraded in 2011 by threatening to shut down the gov't and not increasing the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling is raised to pay bills we already racked up, in other words pay our bills. Republicans are against that or play chicken with it in an attempt to extort some right wing agenda. They seem like the dead beat non-bill paying party to me. Where am I wrong?
Welfare Treats

Abingdon, VA

#10 Oct 1, 2013
What about all of the welfare? Those of us working don't really have to worry about it but I did hear that WICK or WIC (milk and cheese supplements of some kind I think ???) would be cut out or delayed. What about the food stamp wagon? Can we park it for a while too? Does the shut down affect that in any way?
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#11 Oct 1, 2013
Welfare Treats wrote:
What about all of the welfare? Those of us working don't really have to worry about it but I did hear that WICK or WIC (milk and cheese supplements of some kind I think ???) would be cut out or delayed. What about the food stamp wagon? Can we park it for a while too? Does the shut down affect that in any way?
are you "pro-life" or "anti-choice"? I'd about bet on it.
The Wind

Kingsport, TN

#12 Oct 1, 2013
If the government is truly shut down, why are we still paying federal taxes? This "shut down" is nothing new, just Congress clowning around again with scare tactics. Of course it doesn't affect their pay. Meanwhile, foreign countries are horse laughing at the whole dramatic play. No money is really being saved. I'll bet some of our representatives are scheming at ways to make more fortune for themselves from it.
UP your DEBT

Abingdon, VA

#13 Oct 1, 2013
Server wrote:
<quoted text> I mis-posted the Reagan quotes. They were meant to respond to another tread. It seems the Republicans are the ones that don't want to pay back. They got the credit rating of the U.S. downgraded in 2011 by threatening to shut down the gov't and not increasing the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling is raised to pay bills we already racked up, in other words pay our bills. Republicans are against that or play chicken with it in an attempt to extort some right wing agenda. They seem like the dead beat non-bill paying party to me. Where am I wrong?
Simple math people: The National debt was $6T when Bush took office and @$10T after 8 years. The first 4 years of this administration debt climbed to $16.5T and they are wanting more. End of 2012 the national debt was 103.9% of the GDP. The first time this had ever happened. Just stupid. Running the country in the ground. Yes we should pay our bills but we don't need to do it by funding things we can't afford. There's not a working home in America that operates that way. If they do then they lose everything-Bankruptcy!! Now for the non working home it is good math because they are getting something for nothing -free food-cell phones -health care- money for bastard kids etc...
Worker

Johnson City, TN

#15 Oct 1, 2013
All of you people who are saying this shut down is no big deal really has no idea how the world actually works do you? To the hundreds of thousands of workers this affects to the research labs that trying to cure cancer to the regulatory agencies making sure our food is safe to eat or medicine safe to take. None of which can get back to work until this is over. That doesn't even mention the economic impact and the 2 billion dollars this is costing us. Just because the government isn't working doesn't mean the country is somehow saving money. Do me a favor, stop voting. Our entire nation will be better off
Server

Banner Elk, NC

#16 Oct 1, 2013
UP your DEBT wrote:
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Simple math people: The National debt was $6T when Bush took office and @$10T after 8 years. The first 4 years of this administration debt climbed to $16.5T and they are wanting more. End of 2012 the national debt was 103.9% of the GDP. The first time this had ever happened. Just stupid. Running the country in the ground. Yes we should pay our bills but we don't need to do it by funding things we can't afford. There's not a working home in America that operates that way. If they do then they lose everything-Bankruptcy!! Now for the non working home it is good math because they are getting something for nothing -free food-cell phones -health care- money for bastard kids etc...
You are mistaken. Most American homes have mortgages, car payments, student loan payments and other debt they service. Just like the gov't. I believe that we as a society should help one another out in order to make life better for all. There is no reason why a family should go bankrupt because of an accident or illness in the U.S. I also believe the care someone gets should not be determined by the size of their bank account.
lol

Johnson City, TN

#17 Oct 1, 2013
This part of the state is ignorant. I guess when all you do is walk to your mailbox to get your check, there is no need to know what is going on in this country.
UP your DEBT

Abingdon, VA

#18 Oct 2, 2013
Server wrote:
<quoted text> You are mistaken. Most American homes have mortgages, car payments, student loan payments and other debt they service. Just like the gov't. I believe that we as a society should help one another out in order to make life better for all. There is no reason why a family should go bankrupt because of an accident or illness in the U.S. I also believe the care someone gets should not be determined by the size of their bank account.
Spoken like a true welfare recipient. We were not talking about accidents that prevent people from paying their bills. We are talking about spending money that isn't there to spend. A mortgage and cars are things that are earned not given or supplied. If people accrue debt they need to have the means to pay for it. We as a society help more than any nation in the world. We have spoiled 1/2 our citizens into being welfare recipients and made a free ride an acceptable form of employment. We as a society should help those who help them selves. Soda, chips, candy bar and all that stuff being bought with the EBT system is abuse. If you want luxuries EARN THEM. Sending Billions overseas as AID continually when the countries never prosper or become self sufficient they just continue to squander and keep the hand out. From your post though I am sure you know all about that though.
lolo

Kingsport, TN

#19 Oct 2, 2013
lol wrote:
This part of the state is ignorant. I guess when all you do is walk to your mailbox to get your check, there is no need to know what is going on in this country.
If it's so bad here, why don't you walk your smart ass down to your mailbox and keep on walking until you get back up north?
Ed Smith

Knoxville, TN

#20 Oct 2, 2013
Server wrote:
<quoted text> You are mistaken. Most American homes have mortgages, car payments, student loan payments and other debt they service. Just like the gov't. I believe that we as a society should help one another out in order to make life better for all. There is no reason why a family should go bankrupt because of an accident or illness in the U.S. I also believe the care someone gets should not be determined by the size of their bank account.
You and Karl Marx would get along quite well.
Ed Smith

Knoxville, TN

#21 Oct 2, 2013
Server wrote:
<quoted text> I mis-posted the Reagan quotes. They were meant to respond to another tread. It seems the Republicans are the ones that don't want to pay back. They got the credit rating of the U.S. downgraded in 2011 by threatening to shut down the gov't and not increasing the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling is raised to pay bills we already racked up, in other words pay our bills. Republicans are against that or play chicken with it in an attempt to extort some right wing agenda. They seem like the dead beat non-bill paying party to me. Where am I wrong?
Quit kidding yourself....We aren't "paying our bills" now.....we're simply borrowing from anyone fool enough to still lend to us, and printing the rest ( about 50% of the total ).

When the day comes, in the not-to-distant future that we have to print 100%, and the rest of the world won't take a US buck for anything, we will find out the true cost of what we have to import and you'll see the standard of living here drop somewhere south of 3rd world countries.

All the Tea Party republicans are doing is attempting to slow this up.....I doubt they will be successful, there are way to many folks bitching and whining about "me...me....me", and eventually the merry-go-round will crank up for a while more.

But understand, the days of the American Empire are limited....these ARE the good old days.

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