Sen Corker and Alexander...Obama lapdogs
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Hillbillyboy

United States

#23 Sep 14, 2013
The Tea Party is slamming Corker and Alexander for grasping at procedural straws...to protect Obamacare from defunding efforts...

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130822/NE...

Instead of actually resisting and defunding Obamacare, they just want to send empty and meaningless gestures that result in them protecting Obamacare from the will of the people.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#24 Sep 17, 2013
The reason the GOP is so ineffective, is that the "Rino" establishment Leftwing Republicans, like Alexander and Corker) are so enamored with thier own sense of power, that they cant (or wont) see the rather obvious political games the left is playing.

Like this, on Obamacare...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

The only thing that matters to the democrats is the advancement of thier agenda. Facts dont matter.

If Obamacare cost 1000 times the projected cost, they dont care. Its all about advancing the agenda, and nothing else maters to them.

So, the democrats want to cram so many people on to Obamacare, that it will be politically impossible for the Republicans to ever repeal it in the future. They are days away from winning that dubious goal.

The only way to stop this, is to defund it now.

But, the GOP "Rinos",(like Corker, McCain, Alexander,Graham, et al) cant see past thier own noses on this.

So they will probably vote down the opposition from within thier own party, and ignore thier constituents who sent them to Washington to oppose everything Obama and the democrats were doing.

They will defend Obamacare from the real Republicans who are trying to defund it before the nation becomes totally infected by it.

And then, they will probably look confused when they loose yet another election!

(They will probably jump to the wrong conclusion that they were too far to the right!)

A wise man once said that if you chase two chickens, you will loose them both.

Alexander and Corker should decide if they want to be Republicans (and start acting like one), or if they want to be Democrats (and just continue to act like one).

All they are accomplishing now, is to let themselves be used by the Democrats (whos voters will never support them), and alienating themselves from thier own supporters.
America First

Knoxville, TN

#25 Sep 18, 2013
Also, let us NEVER FORGET that both Corker and Alexander both voted "yes" to amnesty for illegal aliens when there are still 20 million Americans unemployed and many millions more underemployed and/or seeing their wages and working conditions deteriorate. That vote alone should send them both to the unemployment roles next election.

As for the Syria issue, it is clear that they are both just the typical AIPAC suckup, "Israel first" traitors that our government is infested with. Even Rand Paul, as promising as he seemed at first, made the pilgrimage to Israel, wore the little beanie hat, and kissed the wall, or kissed Netanyahu's shoes, or whatever it is that they do there. His father would never have done that.Even though Rand opposes war in Syria, I wouldn't trust him now either.
Just Saying

United States

#26 Sep 19, 2013
America First wrote:
Also, let us NEVER FORGET that both Corker and Alexander both voted "yes" to amnesty for illegal aliens when there are still 20 million Americans unemployed and many millions more underemployed and/or seeing their wages and working conditions deteriorate. That vote alone should send them both to the unemployment roles next election.
As for the Syria issue, it is clear that they are both just the typical AIPAC suckup, "Israel first" traitors that our government is infested with. Even Rand Paul, as promising as he seemed at first, made the pilgrimage to Israel, wore the little beanie hat, and kissed the wall, or kissed Netanyahu's shoes, or whatever it is that they do there. His father would never have done that.Even though Rand opposes war in Syria, I wouldn't trust him now either.
In other words you are a liberal demonrat oblamer voter troll spammer.
Just Saying
Hillbillyboy

United States

#27 Sep 19, 2013
America First wrote:
Also, let us NEVER FORGET that both Corker and Alexander both voted "yes" to amnesty for illegal aliens when there are still 20 million Americans unemployed and many millions more underemployed and/or seeing their wages and working conditions deteriorate. That vote alone should send them both to the unemployment roles next election.
As for the Syria issue, it is clear that they are both just the typical AIPAC suckup, "Israel first" traitors that our government is infested with. Even Rand Paul, as promising as he seemed at first, made the pilgrimage to Israel, wore the little beanie hat, and kissed the wall, or kissed Netanyahu's shoes, or whatever it is that they do there. His father would never have done that.Even though Rand opposes war in Syria, I wouldn't trust him now either.
I support Israel, and I think we should continue sending them foreign aid. Most of us fundamentalist, conservative evangelical Christians feel this way, as we remember what The Lord said to Abraham...

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

Gemesis 12:3

But, its just a drop in the bucket compared to the foreign aid we send everywhere else, like funding the Muslim Brotherhood, for example. I do resent that.

I do agree with you on most of the other stuff you say. Corker and Alexander are just too ridiculously too far to the left.

And I oppose the immigration bill they are pushing (and writing, as part of the "gang of 8").

They are wanting to push for radical affirmative action in the immigration bill, that would fine any company or employer, thousands of dollars if they dont hire illegal Mexicans instead of a White person who is a citizen. So we are being discriminated against, just for being white?

Never mind that my family may have been Americans for 400 years. We will be discriminated against, and have someone who might be here illegally get the job ahead of me?

With so many American citizens out of work, this is a really bad idea. Alexander and Corker are also going to vote to fund Obamacare, and vote down the efforts to defund it. They are playing "big shots", and pssing away our freedoms.

Traitors.

Alexander and Corker need to be out of work, as they are messing things up with thier ubber liberal politics.

I recommend that we Tennessee voters just vote out both of them, and elect some Tea Party or Libertarian guys.

Corker and Alexander do not think like Tennesseans, and they do not represent our values of fairness, or sense.
America First

Franklin, NC

#28 Sep 19, 2013
Just Saying wrote:
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In other words you are a liberal demonrat oblamer voter troll spammer.
Just Saying
Where did you get that idea? Do you really think that if someone opposes Corker and/or Alexander they must love Obama?

Apparently, you are just another mouth breathing TV addict who believes that the whole spectrum of political debate in America begins and ends with BSNBC and Faux News.

I am politically very conservative, but not in a pansy neocon way. I am a right wing nationalist. I believe that the first and only priority of our government should be to make America and Americans as powerful and prosperous as possible, to the exclusion of all else.

The only popular pundit that is even remotely close to my viewpoint is Pat Buchannan. The rest of those pansy neocons who try pathetically to pass as conservatives might as well be libtards. These days, the difference between a Democrat and a Republican is like the difference between being poked in the left eye and being poked in the right eye. They are just two sides of the same coin. In that respect, there is very little difference between Obama and George Bush. Neither of them could care less about America and our people, and Corker and Alexander are just more of that ilk.

My previous comments, about being against amnesty for illegal aliens and not wasting money and effort on fighting wars for foreign countries when we have so many of our own problems to deal with, are in line with being a TRUE conservative.
America First

Franklin, NC

#29 Sep 19, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
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I support Israel, and I think we should continue sending them foreign aid. Most of us fundamentalist, conservative evangelical Christians feel this way, as we remember what The Lord said to Abraham...
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."
Gemesis 12:3
But, its just a drop in the bucket compared to the foreign aid we send everywhere else, like funding the Muslim Brotherhood, for example. I do resent that.
I do agree with you on most of the other stuff you say. Corker and Alexander are just too ridiculously too far to the left....
So you put the interests of a foreign country above those of America.

If your religious beliefs dictate that you must support Israel, there is certainly nothing to stop you from sending them your own money or even going there and doing what you can to help them.

However, that is not the role of our government. Our government should not be stealing money from my, and everyone elses, paycheck and sending it to foreign countries. Actually it is even worse than that. They do not only steal it from your paycheck, we don't have enough tax revenue for that. They borrow it and give it away, so that we and our descendants will have to pay it back with a usurious amount of interest. Then they want to fight their wars for them to at huge expense and loss of life to us, too.

I do not support giving foreign aid to ANY country. The money that we give to Muslim countries is mostly just to bribe them to not mess with Israel. I have nothing against Israel. I don't bless or curse them, I just don't care about them one way or the other. I only care about America, and we have way to many of our own problems to deal with to be getting involved with theirs.

I agree with you about the illegal alien problems, though. The only reasonable solution there is to heavily militarize our side of the Mexican border, seal it airtight, and then deport every illegal alien. The libtards and neocons will say that that is unreasonable or extreme or impossible, but that is ridiculous. It would take a few years, but it would be very easy to do, certainly a lot easier than giving a bunch of stone age camel jockeys half way around the world "the gift of democracy".
Hillbillyboy

United States

#30 Sep 19, 2013
That is one of the things that has kept the Libertarian Party from getting very many ex-Republicans from joining them. They want to cut aid to Israel.

A lot of Christian conservatives are ready to puke on the Republican party because of thier surrendering on every issue to the liberal democrats. The Republicans dont seem to want to stand up for anything these days.

Finally, the Tea Party forced the House to stand up and fight a little bit against the wildly unpopular law of Obamacare.

But the Republicans in the Senate seem bound and determined to defend Obamacare, even to the point of splitting the Republican party, in the interest of licking Obamas boots.

Even though the constituents of the Republicans in the Senate clearly want them to oppose Obamacare at every chence. The Senate Republicans seem hell-bound to fight FOR keeping Obamacare funded.

And so, millions of conservatives are ready to abandon the GOP because of it.

They would probably join the Libertarians, if they came more into line with traditional Christian conservative thinking. But, the Libertarians want to defund foreign aid to Israel.

And that makes a lot of us uncomfortable.

And not just on religious grounds. But also, Israel is our only reliable ally in the entire Middle East. Im not so sure how reliable the big OPEC nations are as allies, considering they have been price-gouging us on the price of oil for decades.

The Libertarians are blowing a once in a life time chance to become a major party. A really viable party that can win major elections, and put its candidates in the White House.

Millions upon millions of former Republicans are now looking around for a new party.
America First

Murfreesboro, TN

#32 Sep 20, 2013
Hillbillyboy wrote:
That is one of the things that has kept the Libertarian Party from getting very many ex-Republicans from joining them. They want to cut aid to Israel.
A lot of Christian conservatives are ready to puke on the Republican party because of thier surrendering on every issue to the liberal democrats. The Republicans dont seem to want to stand up for anything these days.
Finally, the Tea Party forced the House to stand up and fight a little bit against the wildly unpopular law of Obamacare.
But the Republicans in the Senate seem bound and determined to defend Obamacare, even to the point of splitting the Republican party, in the interest of licking Obamas boots.
Even though the constituents of the Republicans in the Senate clearly want them to oppose Obamacare at every chence. The Senate Republicans seem hell-bound to fight FOR keeping Obamacare funded.
And so, millions of conservatives are ready to abandon the GOP because of it.
They would probably join the Libertarians, if they came more into line with traditional Christian conservative thinking. But, the Libertarians want to defund foreign aid to Israel.
And that makes a lot of us uncomfortable.
And not just on religious grounds. But also, Israel is our only reliable ally in the entire Middle East. Im not so sure how reliable the big OPEC nations are as allies, considering they have been price-gouging us on the price of oil for decades.
The Libertarians are blowing a once in a life time chance to become a major party. A really viable party that can win major elections, and put its candidates in the White House.
Millions upon millions of former Republicans are now looking around for a new party.
First of all, my apologies to everyone for veering off topic. However, I don't think that there is much to debate about the OT. Pretty much everyone here agrees that both Corker and Alexander have totally lost touch with reality and have got to go.

The solution to your dilemma is very simple: People who want to support Israel should, of their own free will, send them their own money and leave the rest of us out of it.

The Libertarians are right for not supporting aid for Israel (or any other foreign aid), because forcing all Americans to give their hard earned tax money to a foreign country, especially when we can not even balance our own budget, is logically and morally wrong.

If it is done because of religion, it is clearly unconstitutional. The first amendment of our constitution says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

It is also un-Christian: Exodus 20:15 "Thou shall not steal".

It is also clearly not in line with true conservative principles to give what amounts to welfare to a foreign country, especially when we have to borrow money to do it. When we have to cut the budget, foreign aid should be the very first thing to go.

If you think that Israel is a reliable ally, please educate yourself:

www.ussliberty.org

I agree that the OPEC nations are not to be trusted, either, but our oil situation is changing. We are rapidly getting closer to the point of oil independence. You don't even hear much about OPEC anymore, and the only middle eastern country we even buy oil from is Saudi Arabia. The time is coming when we can and should wash our hands of that whole region.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#33 Sep 20, 2013
I guess I can see both sides of the foreign aid issue.

But on the other hand, if the aid is going towards nation building and stability in a region, that may be cheaper than fighting wars, after all.

A little more foreign aid to Germany in the 1920s might have prevented the rise of Hitler?

How much did WW2 cost?

So, I guess I can see both sides of the matter.

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