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Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#1 Jun 8, 2013
In his latest triumphant decision, Obama has requested that the Chinese work with the US in developing a strategy to develop cybersecurity protocol. Is that not akin to the farmer asking the fox to help him come up with a plan to help reduce his hen losses? Bill Clinton was right, Obama is too much of an idiot to be president.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#2 Jun 8, 2013
Silverado wrote:
In his latest triumphant decision, Obama has requested that the Chinese work with the US in developing a strategy to develop cybersecurity protocol. Is that not akin to the farmer asking the fox to help him come up with a plan to help reduce his hen losses? Bill Clinton was right, Obama is too much of an idiot to be president.
In my lifetime, I can't remember a more scandalous administration. Watergate was a joke compared to what's happening now. At least Nixon and Clinton's scandals didn't involve getting Americans killed. The Iran contra ordeal looks a little mild compared to Benghazi too, doesn't it. Lets not fail to mention using the IRS to cripple political opposition, spying on American citizens in the name if homeland security through Verizon, and that whole Fast and Furious ordeal. I better stop before I'm indefinitely detained for posting this, I didn't understand back in November how the guy got re-elected but now it makes total sense. He should be impeached, and imprisoned right before his execution on the basis of treason. I have no respect for anybody that still supports him.
Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#3 Jun 8, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
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In my lifetime, I can't remember a more scandalous administration. Watergate was a joke compared to what's happening now. At least Nixon and Clinton's scandals didn't involve getting Americans killed. The Iran contra ordeal looks a little mild compared to Benghazi too, doesn't it. Lets not fail to mention using the IRS to cripple political opposition, spying on American citizens in the name if homeland security through Verizon, and that whole Fast and Furious ordeal. I better stop before I'm indefinitely detained for posting this, I didn't understand back in November how the guy got re-elected but now it makes total sense. He should be impeached, and imprisoned right before his execution on the basis of treason. I have no respect for anybody that still supports him.
Not only do I agree that it is the most scandalous administration, but it is also the most brazen. With the leftist media in his back pocket, Obama has cart blanche to do what he wants without repercussion.

Before his reign of corruption is over, I won't be surprised if we discover that the influence of the greatest majority of federal agencies were somehow used to further Obama's agenda. But yet, you have idiots all across the country giving no care to the infringement of their personal freedoms while their panties grow moist watching him on TV. Unbelievable!
Why

Clinton, TN

#4 Jun 8, 2013
Link one source to here that says Bill Clinton said that. The IRS doesn't need to cripple anything, the Tea Party and you two nuts are doing a fine job on your own.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#5 Jun 8, 2013
Silverado wrote:
<quoted text>Not only do I agree that it is the most scandalous administration, but it is also the most brazen. With the leftist media in his back pocket, Obama has cart blanche to do what he wants without repercussion.

Before his reign of corruption is over, I won't be surprised if we discover that the influence of the greatest majority of federal agencies were somehow used to further Obama's agenda. But yet, you have idiots all across the country giving no care to the infringement of their personal freedoms while their panties grow moist watching him on TV. Unbelievable!
It's quite a coincidence that the education standards in this country were dropped before all this started happening. The dumbing down of Americans walks hand in hand with the agenda of the government. If its on TV, it must be true, that's the thought process we deal with now. As I keep saying, post after post on here, patriotism is passed off as the definition of being a loyalist. People seem to think that patriotism revolves around supporting the government no matter what it does, I doubt that they even know the meaning of the word dissent or even care about the warnings of tyranny our founding fathers set forth for our nation. Too many Americans are self absorbed, they only care about the here and now and give no regard to the future and what will become of this nation. Little by little, the government takes a bigger chunk of our income and robs us of more civil liberties. I lmmfao at the people who still think its a battle of right versus left, both parties are corrupt and share the same socialist and globalist agendas. The media ultimately determines the elections. People vote for a catchy slogan or a commercial these days rather then the issues that really matter.. Ron Paul would have been a revolutionary president but he never stood a chance because he was silenced by the media and his message was never brought before the masses, instead we were forced into deciding between 2 hand picked candidates.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#6 Jun 8, 2013
Why wrote:
Link one source to here that says Bill Clinton said that. The IRS doesn't need to cripple anything, the Tea Party and you two nuts are doing a fine job on your own.
Link one source that says we're idiots, then bring about any factual information you can find to debate anything we've discussed. By resorting to name calling from post number one, you've already lost.
Why

Clinton, TN

#7 Jun 8, 2013
Sure. I'll take part if Silverado can first back up his initial statement.
Silverado

Chesterfield, SC

#8 Jun 9, 2013
Why wrote:
Sure. I'll take part if Silverado can first back up his initial statement.
Read "Amateur President" by Edward Klein. Everything you need to know is in the book.

I like how you dispute Clinton's statement but not Obama's performance as president. Very telling.
Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#9 Jun 9, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
<quoted text>
It's quite a coincidence that the education standards in this country were dropped before all this started happening. The dumbing down of Americans walks hand in hand with the agenda of the government. If its on TV, it must be true, that's the thought process we deal with now. As I keep saying, post after post on here, patriotism is passed off as the definition of being a loyalist. People seem to think that patriotism revolves around supporting the government no matter what it does, I doubt that they even know the meaning of the word dissent or even care about the warnings of tyranny our founding fathers set forth for our nation. Too many Americans are self absorbed, they only care about the here and now and give no regard to the future and what will become of this nation. Little by little, the government takes a bigger chunk of our income and robs us of more civil liberties. I lmmfao at the people who still think its a battle of right versus left, both parties are corrupt and share the same socialist and globalist agendas. The media ultimately determines the elections. People vote for a catchy slogan or a commercial these days rather then the issues that really matter.. Ron Paul would have been a revolutionary president but he never stood a chance because he was silenced by the media and his message was never brought before the masses, instead we were forced into deciding between 2 hand picked candidates.
Very well stated CPD. I have read several of your posts on loyalty and patriotism and I couldn't agree with you more. If the right was attempting today what the Obama administration is currently doing by infringing peoples/groups rights, I'd be just as outspoken against them. The mere thought that we have people in this country so simple-minded as to support an administration that is doing what the Obama administration is doing just perplexes the hell out of me. USSR, here we come.
Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#10 Jun 9, 2013
Why wrote:
Link one source to here that says Bill Clinton said that. The IRS doesn't need to cripple anything, the Tea Party and you two nuts are doing a fine job on your own.
If the Tea Party is of such little consequence, why use the most powerful federal agency to target its groups? Are you willing to give up some of your personal freedoms to further the Obama mission? Do you think the weight of the government should be used against law-abiding people who think differently than you? Have you ever read about or studied countries who have a government dominant/oppressive society? If so, is that the lifestyle you want? Simple questions; let's hear your opinion.
Why

Clinton, TN

#11 Jun 9, 2013
Give me a source that actually isn't by an extremely biased author who has been critized for their works on another Clinton. Direct quotes that are substantiated would be just fine.

The Tea Party had it's day in 2010. It is over. The right overplays Obama's role in the IRS scandal. They have no hard evidence there was true foul play in any of the recent events that the conserative media is brutally narrowcasting.

This is all about 2014 and 2016, nothing less. I can't blame them for that, nothing else works for them because of the lack of a popular party platform.

As for everythig else.. Do you not recall the second Bush administration? I will give you guys credit, you study up more on things than most on here and the real world. Trust me, any absence of further debate is not for lack of knowledge or any other reason you could respectively conjure, however you might attempt to spin it otherwise. But it's not worth my time, you guys won't change your minds. And yes I have studied other countries, I teach political science on a collegiate level. However, while it is not a perfect system, is it far better than the media, and especially the right, will lead you to believe.
Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#12 Jun 9, 2013
Why wrote:
Give me a source that actually isn't by an extremely biased author who has been critized for their works on another Clinton. Direct quotes that are substantiated would be just fine.
The Tea Party had it's day in 2010. It is over. The right overplays Obama's role in the IRS scandal. They have no hard evidence there was true foul play in any of the recent events that the conserative media is brutally narrowcasting.
This is all about 2014 and 2016, nothing less. I can't blame them for that, nothing else works for them because of the lack of a popular party platform.
As for everythig else.. Do you not recall the second Bush administration? I will give you guys credit, you study up more on things than most on here and the real world. Trust me, any absence of further debate is not for lack of knowledge or any other reason you could respectively conjure, however you might attempt to spin it otherwise. But it's not worth my time, you guys won't change your minds. And yes I have studied other countries, I teach political science on a collegiate level. However, while it is not a perfect system, is it far better than the media, and especially the right, will lead you to believe.
I hope in your lectures that you are a little more unbiased than what you have indicated on here. Many of the best instructors I had posed the possibilities and left the conclusions to debate by the students; obviously something you have no further interest in doing on here.

What is it that is not a perfect system? Everyone wants to dance around what Obama is doing but noone wants to say the ugly word. Is it socialism? Is it communism? What is it?

How can you, in good conscience, say a system of government control and oppression is better than what we have been founded on? Are you really willing to forego free will so you can have moronic elected leaders (from both sides I might add) tell you what you can do/not do, have/not have, etc without a voice to challenge those rules?

As for my suggestion to read "Amateur President," at least Klein offers sources for his information. You'll listen to Chris Matthews, Matt Lauer, etc, yet discount someone who can provide you sources. Common sense and basic observation skills should lead you to the conclusion that Obama cannot effectively run this country. I didn't really need Clinton to affirm my suspicions.
Hillbilly boy

United States

#13 Jun 9, 2013
Why wrote:
Give me a source that actually isn't by an extremely biased author who has been critized for their works on another Clinton. Direct quotes that are substantiated would be just fine.
The Tea Party had it's day in 2010. It is over. The right overplays Obama's role in the IRS scandal. They have no hard evidence there was true foul play in any of the recent events that the conserative media is brutally narrowcasting.
This is all about 2014 and 2016, nothing less. I can't blame them for that, nothing else works for them because of the lack of a popular party platform.
As for everythig else.. Do you not recall the second Bush administration? I will give you guys credit, you study up more on things than most on here and the real world. Trust me, any absence of further debate is not for lack of knowledge or any other reason you could respectively conjure, however you might attempt to spin it otherwise. But it's not worth my time, you guys won't change your minds. And yes I have studied other countries, I teach political science on a collegiate level. However, while it is not a perfect system, is it far better than the media, and especially the right, will lead you to believe.
The Obamazombies speak. And what do we get out of them?

Lets see...insults, blame Bush...steer the conversation away from the obvious (to everyone except them) fact that Obama is a tyrant in the purest sense of the word.

Using the IRS to target groups on Obamas "hate list" (people he hates) such as conservative groups, Christian groups, etc. That is clearly tyranny.

Not to mention the Eric Holder, "Fast and Furious" scandal. Why is he still in office?

I think we all remember the dishonest way Obamacare was rammed down the throat of a country that didnt want it (and still dont). How the Demcrats had to use a dirty trick to get the vote in before Scot Brown (who had run and won on the ticket to stop Obamacare) could be sworn in.

How this administration uses "recess closure votes" n weekends, to ram more tyrannical laws onto the books.

How Obama is now using edicts and Imperial Orders to rule without Congress (or the peoples) consent. He wants to be a Caesar ruling an Imperial Rome.

I think about everyone (except the Obamazombies) has figured out that John Kerry will wait until Congress goes on recess, and then sign the UN gun ban treaty.

With Congress out and no one to bring it to a vote, the treaty will go into effect and become US law without any direction or oversight by Congress..That we, neither the people, or our elected representatives will have any say in it.

That is how tyrants think and operate. Everybody but the Obamazombies gets it.
Silverado

Elizabethton, TN

#14 Jun 10, 2013
Hillbilly boy wrote:
<quoted text>
The Obamazombies speak. And what do we get out of them?
Lets see...insults, blame Bush...steer the conversation away from the obvious (to everyone except them) fact that Obama is a tyrant in the purest sense of the word.
Using the IRS to target groups on Obamas "hate list" (people he hates) such as conservative groups, Christian groups, etc. That is clearly tyranny.
Not to mention the Eric Holder, "Fast and Furious" scandal. Why is he still in office?
I think we all remember the dishonest way Obamacare was rammed down the throat of a country that didnt want it (and still dont). How the Demcrats had to use a dirty trick to get the vote in before Scot Brown (who had run and won on the ticket to stop Obamacare) could be sworn in.
How this administration uses "recess closure votes" n weekends, to ram more tyrannical laws onto the books.
How Obama is now using edicts and Imperial Orders to rule without Congress (or the peoples) consent. He wants to be a Caesar ruling an Imperial Rome.
I think about everyone (except the Obamazombies) has figured out that John Kerry will wait until Congress goes on recess, and then sign the UN gun ban treaty.
With Congress out and no one to bring it to a vote, the treaty will go into effect and become US law without any direction or oversight by Congress..That we, neither the people, or our elected representatives will have any say in it.
That is how tyrants think and operate. Everybody but the Obamazombies gets it.
It appears debate is not one of the "professor's" strong points. But then again, it is hard to defend Obama.
Why

Clinton, TN

#15 Jun 11, 2013
Silverado

Jonesborough, TN

#16 Jun 11, 2013
Why wrote:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fractal_ wrongness
That's it? That's your best attempt at rationalizing your inability to debate? No facts, no personal beliefs or observations; just a link to a poorly sourced website containing a description for a made-up phrase?

If there was ever any doubt that you were a college professor, you have most assuredly, in my opinion, eliminated that doubt. There is a reason our country's educational system ranks as one of the poorest in the civilized world and I can wholeheartedly believe that you are one of those who have helped ensure that we are in that position.
American Fool

Kingsport, TN

#17 Jun 11, 2013
I don't know about you folk, but I'm throwing in the towel. We have, as a people, been defeated. I don't care if it's Obama, Hand in the Bush, Citizen McCain, the ghost of McCarthy, or the memories of Nixon, we are all being duped. I'm "X"ing myself from it all! I'm just going to play the game and going blind to it all. You can't change a damn thing. Take what you can before being told by "the man" what you can have. I'm just going to live my life as best I can in spite of it all. Luckily, I'm a man of no real ambition!~ I sure have sympathy for our descendants.
Hillbilly boy

United States

#18 Jun 12, 2013
American Fool wrote:
I don't know about you folk, but I'm throwing in the towel. We have, as a people, been defeated. I don't care if it's Obama, Hand in the Bush, Citizen McCain, the ghost of McCarthy, or the memories of Nixon, we are all being duped. I'm "X"ing myself from it all! I'm just going to play the game and going blind to it all. You can't change a damn thing. Take what you can before being told by "the man" what you can have. I'm just going to live my life as best I can in spite of it all. Luckily, I'm a man of no real ambition!~ I sure have sympathy for our descendants.
I get exactly the same sense when studying the history of the Roman Empire in the 4th and 5h centuries. After a string of Obama-like, and really inept and decadent and corrupt rulers and overlords, I think even the Romans were sick of it all.

The Empire didnt last long after the string of little Obamas had run it into the ground in the late 4th century.
Cheese Puff Daddy

Park Hills, MO

#19 Jun 13, 2013
American Fool wrote:
I don't know about you folk, but I'm throwing in the towel. We have, as a people, been defeated. I don't care if it's Obama, Hand in the Bush, Citizen McCain, the ghost of McCarthy, or the memories of Nixon, we are all being duped. I'm "X"ing myself from it all! I'm just going to play the game and going blind to it all. You can't change a damn thing. Take what you can before being told by "the man" what you can have. I'm just going to live my life as best I can in spite of it all. Luckily, I'm a man of no real ambition!~ I sure have sympathy for our descendants.
This is a great post, and I think that a lot of us feel the same way. I really don't know what to do about it either. I guess discussing it on here is a way of venting frustrations. I often wonder what good petitions and calls to representatives really do. The public out cry about the impending gun control laws seemed to make a difference, for now. I don't know that I'll ever accept it, I'll just keep raising hell about it until the right people hear me..
Blue as a Fishook

Kingsport, TN

#20 Jun 14, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
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This is a great post, and I think that a lot of us feel the same way. I really don't know what to do about it either. I guess discussing it on here is a way of venting frustrations. I often wonder what good petitions and calls to representatives really do. The public out cry about the impending gun control laws seemed to make a difference, for now. I don't know that I'll ever accept it, I'll just keep raising hell about it until the right people hear me..
Thanks for the compliment. I'm a firm believer that petitions and calls to the reps are a waste of time unless you have the money to back it up. I don't even believe the "public outcry" is any more than the media makes it appear. Maybe I have become jaded in my old age, but I'm tired of trying to change things beyond our control. Just when you think you have support, the people who are "behind you" sell out, turn tail, and expect you to do all the fighting without mentioning their names. Politicians focusing on this human weakness are like flies on shit.

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