non racist churches non denominational

non racist churches non denominational

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Serena

Johnson City, TN

#1 Jun 30, 2012
I am fed up with churches full of racists who live lives contrary to Jesus doctrines. I am looking for what may be non existent in this area, a church that welcomes all and is not racist.
stephen

Johnson City, TN

#2 Jul 1, 2012
have you tried grace fellowship
smarty

Johnson City, TN

#3 Jul 2, 2012
Fountain of Life Bible Church in boones creek isn't racist. They welcome everyone and I think you would enjoy the people there.
Grace

United States

#4 Jul 2, 2012
I agree. Grace Fellowship is a very welcoming church (non political-non judgemental). Christ-centered on Grace and Love
Church

Winchester, TN

#5 Jul 2, 2012
Which ones have you visited?
wondering

Johnson City, TN

#6 Jul 4, 2012
What exactly have you exoerienced that is racist? I am just curious.
Meh

United States

#8 Jul 5, 2012
Grace Fellowship doesn't care what race you are. You just have to act white. Ok, I know that was racist, I was bring facetious.
Grace is all talk about love & grace & feel good, but when it comes down to the actions to back up the words, they just don't have it. A lot of the people that go there are great, but my experience with the leadership is that they are just like any other large organization or business, they seem to have forgotten the words they teach & are just focused on the image & bottom line.
I didn't see it when I went there bc it is so big, sometimes it'd be awhile before you realize someone is gone, then you see them in public, & theyd tell you some story of how they were hurt. Never "I left because it wasn't entertaining enough" or "I wasnt meeting enough people to network" because Grace is excellent for that. They have great resources, & a lot of feel-good projects that you can write a check to, or donate an hour of your time once a quarter to & feel all warm & fuzzy. I think it's a great place, but don't think for a minute that they really believe that stuff they teach.
Perhaps an option for non-racist church might be a small startup church where people will just know each other more personally?
Meh

United States

#9 Jul 5, 2012
Oh, sorry for the dble post. But I had another thought as well. If you have been going to the same church for awhile, the one at which you observed or experienced racism, I think you may have an obligation to try to fix it. I know you may already have tried, & it may be a systemic problem, but I think if you leave a long-term church relationship, unless it is something everyone knows about like a churchwide rift, you need to at least bring the problem to someone's attention so that it can be possibly resolved if they are interested in doing so, which they may not be.
Meh

United States

#10 Jul 6, 2012
Sorry for the double post above.
I wanted to add a little opinion of mine about leaving the church in which you experienced or observed the racism. I personally feel that if you attended the church long-term, that you need to bring this to someone's attention. You may have done so already, or maybe you feel it's obvious & doesn't need to be said. But a long term church relationship is like any other relationship-- I feel 1) you shouldn't walk away from a long term relationship without explaining to the other party why 2) nobody's perfect, sometimes one party needs help or correction, & while usually this would come from the church, it's not perfect for sure either, and maybe your words are meant to be a catalyst for growth. Maybe you are meant to be the one that prevents this from happening to someone else.
But as you know, you may not get the healing reaction that you expect. I had an issue with my former church, which I thought was an unintended yet harmful oversight, but when I brought it to someone's attention, I was told that it wasn't an oversight. I pursued it & was shocked that the leaderships' answer wasn't , "Well, we prayed about it," or, "this scripture says this...." (I even asked for scripture more than once--but their actions were truly non-Biblical-- but I had been hoping I was missing something), but instead was more along the lines of all the work we've done to build this image, what would people think, we'd have to explain ourselves to people, and more than once, that it boils down to taking the action that will not rock the boat for the largest group of people. Basically, the minorities don't pay the bills, supporting the budget and status-quo was (is still, sadly) the main goal.
I was shocked to find that even my church was an illusion, & hurt that they really didn't care about intentionally hurting people. I guess maybe they would if it affected attendance or $$$. I was shocked once I left to keep running into other individuals who had been hurt by this church. It wasn't the outcome I was expecting at all, & to be honest, rather shattering, but I am glad I didn't just keep my mouth shut & walk away. True, I didnt foster any great changes, I didn't get the leadership to see that the god they teach about is bigger than "what will people think?" & he'd be able to handle any fall-out from following his commands, I didn't get to see the great places I thought this church could go if it got out of its comfort zone & back into following what at one point they obviously believed, but I'm really glad I talked to someone about it. It helped me solidify my beliefs, required that I take what they had been teaching in words & own it myself, plus it's helped some with closure, because leaving a church is like experiencing a death or breakup, it's a loss.
It's also helped me realize lately that maybe I'm just too idealistic & that's the nature of the beast. I mean, it's true, churches need money to run, right? & if overall you are helping a larger amount of people publicly & the only way to do this is step on a smaller number of people privately, well, that's the way business works & we all know bIg churches = big business.
I'm just saying that being hurt by your church is no small thing, & even though the reality is that churches aren't God, they represent them, & even tho you maybe can't change or fix anything there, maybe you can, & it's worth a shot.
Meh

United States

#11 Jul 6, 2012
Omg, topix! They removed my double post, & replaced the one missing since last nite that I redid this morning. Haha, I promise I'm not cracked out or anything, I swear I made sense based On what I was seeing posted!
Serena

Johnson City, TN

#12 Jul 9, 2012
You have a good idea there. I'm going to discuss it with my pastor. Thank you and God Bless you.
Meh wrote:
Oh, sorry for the dble post. But I had another thought as well. If you have been going to the same church for awhile, the one at which you observed or experienced racism, I think you may have an obligation to try to fix it. I know you may already have tried, & it may be a systemic problem, but I think if you leave a long-term church relationship, unless it is something everyone knows about like a churchwide rift, you need to at least bring the problem to someone's attention so that it can be possibly resolved if they are interested in doing so, which they may not be.
Serena

Johnson City, TN

#13 Jul 9, 2012
Well, my first inclination was Obama's winning the Presendency. Then Obama's Health Plan, now constantly pushing a racist down our throats, that being Mitt Romney. Romney is a racist and therefore against the preachings of Jesus. How can a Born Again Christian vote for a known racist? Do we need to be reminded of Jesus' last 2 Commandments?
wondering wrote:
What exactly have you exoerienced that is racist? I am just curious.
Mitt

United States

#14 Jul 9, 2012
Serena wrote:
Well, my first inclination was Obama's winning the Presendency. Then Obama's Health Plan, now constantly pushing a racist down our throats, that being Mitt Romney. Romney is a racist and therefore against the preachings of Jesus. How can a Born Again Christian vote for a known racist? Do we need to be reminded of Jesus' last 2 Commandments?
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I dOnt understand how people who say their Christianity is important to them can support Romney, whose stance is basically the opposite of Jesus' on so many points. Especially people who say they care about the sanctity of life.

You should check out the FB page The Christian Left. They are a little bit extreme, but I lIke how they relate the politics of today what Jesus actually taught. I personally don't think either party is very Christian anymore, you can't really go right either way.
parent

Nashville, TN

#15 Jul 9, 2012
Why do all these churches now have a couldn't care less demeaner? I have been taking my family to Tri Cities Baptist. We were never made to feel very welcome. We started to go less and less and now do not attend at all. We have ran into several members and they just turn their heads. We have never did anything to offend any of them. They have a lot of people on staff but we have yet to be contacted. No e-mails, letters. texts, phone calls, visits. I know this has happened to several other people. They are constantly talking about going on misson trips but forget about the people in their own church. Oh,by the way I have a teenager who was very involved but now is out of church. They are getting very bitter toward church and feel alone and forgotten about. Thanks a bunch TRI CITIES BAPTIST CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!
LOST

Baltimore, MD

#16 Jul 25, 2012
I would invite you to try out the Gathering at Elizabethton. We are a Grace centered congregation, and are small group based so that we share a family like atmosphere. Please check out our website at www.etownhope.org . If you like what you see (and hear as most of our sermons are available online), come check us out. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Still serching

Johnson City, TN

#17 Aug 8, 2012
We have been in JC for almost a year now and have yet to find a home church. We are going to check out Highland Fellowship this coming Sunday. Anyone have any experience with that church? We did like the service at Grace Fellowship,but was very disappointed in the ministers "sermon." Was told that he teaches and never preaches. Just wasn't what we were looking for. Have attended Calvary Church in Boones Creek on several occasions and really do enjoy their contemporary music and anointed preaching. My spouse prefers a mixture of the old and new music,so...trying to find that in a place of worship. He also does not want to attend any of those tongue talking churches which leaves a lot of the undenominational churches in the area out. Any advice you would have would be well received. Thanks and God bless.
hillbillyboy

Johnson City, TN

#18 Aug 9, 2012
Perhaps in some cases, uncomfortable-ness is confused with racism?

After all, these days, the leftist media plays the race card so much, and the government plays the race card so much, that it is intimidating to some people to even say hello to a person of a different race.

So, they just dont.

This may not be actual racism, as much as plain old fear.

They might be afraid they might accidentally say something that can be taken the wrong way. So they just play it safe and put up the barriers.

There is an antidote available.

It sweeps away all confusion, fears, and misunderstandings. The answer is simple after all.

It is the Gospel of Christ.

That is what Christian Churches are supposed to be all about anyway, right? That is our one and only real purpose for existing, after all.

When any believer simply asks God to fill them with the Holy Spirit, then we can have that. It is promised by God.

Remember the Day of Pentacost? How a violent wind filled the room where the believers were gathered, and tongues of fire rested over their heads and they began to speak in tongues?

That is what every Christian Church needs. Racism and misunderstandings, hurt feelings, fear, and all of that stuff would be likened unto a stench being forcibly blown out the window by the supernatural wind of the Spirit of God.

It transcends everything else, and nothing can stop it.

All the Christians need to do, is to simply pray for it.
jbjs40

Hollywood, FL

#19 Sep 27, 2012
Meh wrote:
Oh, sorry for the dble post. But I had another thought as well. If you have been going to the same church for awhile, the one at which you observed or experienced racism, I think you may have an obligation to try to fix it. I know you may already have tried, & it may be a systemic problem, but I think if you leave a long-term church relationship, unless it is something everyone knows about like a churchwide rift, you need to at least bring the problem to someone's attention so that it can be possibly resolved if they are interested in doing so, which they may not be.
i have tried to bring attention to that kind of behavior respectfully but it never has worked for me. instead it created more pain for a family that has felt alienated and had enough love to let the pastor know why we left. he could not accept that he was part of the problem he did not want to entertain even that thought that he may be wrong. you could not tell him anything. perhaps he grew used to talking so much he has forgotten how to hear. see still bothers me to this day and resulted in a family that wants nothing to do with religion, period. the best thing that happened to us was walking away.
jbjs40

Hollywood, FL

#20 Sep 27, 2012
hillbillyboy wrote:
Perhaps in some cases, uncomfortable-ness is confused with racism?
After all, these days, the leftist media plays the race card so much, and the government plays the race card so much, that it is intimidating to some people to even say hello to a person of a different race.
So, they just dont.
This may not be actual racism, as much as plain old fear.
They might be afraid they might accidentally say something that can be taken the wrong way. So they just play it safe and put up the barriers.
There is an antidote available.
It sweeps away all confusion, fears, and misunderstandings. The answer is simple after all.
It is the Gospel of Christ.
That is what Christian Churches are supposed to be all about anyway, right? That is our one and only real purpose for existing, after all.
When any believer simply asks God to fill them with the Holy Spirit, then we can have that. It is promised by God.
Remember the Day of Pentacost? How a violent wind filled the room where the believers were gathered, and tongues of fire rested over their heads and they began to speak in tongues?
That is what every Christian Church needs. Racism and misunderstandings, hurt feelings, fear, and all of that stuff would be likened unto a stench being forcibly blown out the window by the supernatural wind of the Spirit of God.
It transcends everything else, and nothing can stop it.
All the Christians need to do, is to simply pray for it.
I found stripping away everything EXCEPT what Jesus said was very eye opening. I do not put a lot of weight on what Paul said because he is not Jesus. Jesus words themselves opened our minds and truth entered without anyone else`s opinions getting in the way. Jesus said many things but did not say anything about abortion or homosexuality. I think first that he did not forget to say anything. he is Jesus after all right? Secondly he did not mention them because to Jesus poverty was an overwhelming issue. Reading Jesus values makes voting based on Christian values ridiculous. In fact My family and I, adhering to Jesus words, we find Christians often times are found standing their ground in opposition to Jesus.
I have been through the religious experience and have come out in the end a better person in that organized religion taught me something valuable. the longer you tell a lie and the more you repeat it it becomes a truth. Obama is not muslim, he is christian to the core according to Jesus. Bush was not good for the country. Bush was evil according to his fruit that he bore for all to see. republican party is not the christian party. measured by Jesus words and ministry the other guys are the most like him in their policies. but if you look at christianity it is easy to see that being a republican is indeed christian but it is opposite of Jesus. have a blessed day sir.
Right

Abingdon, VA

#21 Sep 27, 2012
jbjs40 wrote:
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I found stripping away everything EXCEPT what Jesus said was very eye opening. I do not put a lot of weight on what Paul said because he is not Jesus. Jesus words themselves opened our minds and truth entered without anyone else`s opinions getting in the way. Jesus said many things but did not say anything about abortion or homosexuality. I think first that he did not forget to say anything. he is Jesus after all right? Secondly he did not mention them because to Jesus poverty was an overwhelming issue. Reading Jesus values makes voting based on Christian values ridiculous. In fact My family and I, adhering to Jesus words, we find Christians often times are found standing their ground in opposition to Jesus.
I have been through the religious experience and have come out in the end a better person in that organized religion taught me something valuable. the longer you tell a lie and the more you repeat it it becomes a truth. Obama is not muslim, he is christian to the core according to Jesus. Bush was not good for the country. Bush was evil according to his fruit that he bore for all to see. republican party is not the christian party. measured by Jesus words and ministry the other guys are the most like him in their policies. but if you look at christianity it is easy to see that being a republican is indeed christian but it is opposite of Jesus. have a blessed day sir.
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