The A.C.A. We just signed up!

The A.C.A. We just signed up!

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Needed

Mountain City, TN

#1 Dec 24, 2013
Today at midnight is the deadline for being covered as of January 1st. We just signed our family up and our premium will be $200.00 per month which we can afford. We had insurance until 2009 when we had to drop it due to our premium increasing to over $800.00 per month from its original $220.00 per month in 2002. Now we will again have coverage as of next Wednesday. For those of you who rail against the A.C.A. You must either have coverage or not have taken the time to get it for yourself or your family. Now we can go to the doctor, and more importantly take our daughter to the doctor if need be. The past few years have been worrisome thinking that if anything should have happened we would be in serious financial trouble. Personally I wish it were single payer, but Republicans always want someone to make money. This will be both a boon to the insurance industry as well as our family, because now we can go to the doctor, and if need be, get the care we need from hospitalization. Thank you Mr. President!
Snake Eyes

Elizabethton, TN

#2 Dec 24, 2013
Needed wrote:
Today at midnight is the deadline for being covered as of January 1st. We just signed our family up and our premium will be $200.00 per month which we can afford. We had insurance until 2009 when we had to drop it due to our premium increasing to over $800.00 per month from its original $220.00 per month in 2002. Now we will again have coverage as of next Wednesday. For those of you who rail against the A.C.A. You must either have coverage or not have taken the time to get it for yourself or your family. Now we can go to the doctor, and more importantly take our daughter to the doctor if need be. The past few years have been worrisome thinking that if anything should have happened we would be in serious financial trouble. Personally I wish it were single payer, but Republicans always want someone to make money. This will be both a boon to the insurance industry as well as our family, because now we can go to the doctor, and if need be, get the care we need from hospitalization. Thank you Mr. President!
You need to keep your lies straight, Needed. You were the same one who stated how easy it was for you and your family to sign up for ACA back in October when in fact, only six people were found to have been able to do so.
ACA has been a train wreck from its infancy. Republican leaders were against it and Democratic leaders were strong-armed into voting for it. Democrats up for reelection are throwing ACA and Obama under the bus and are just now admitting to ACAs disastrous consequences. The highly touted website was just one massive indicator of the disasters waiting to be realized by ACA. Never-ending changes that are made to "better" the program have repeatedly failed and have done nothing but infuriate Americans, politicians, and the insurance industry. Even ACAs most ardent Democratic supporters have allowed themselves and their staffs exemptions from the failed program. Numerous corporate cronies of Obama's have been granted exemptions from the program while hard-working Americans are threatened with civil repercussions if they fail to sign up for ACA. Obama lied to get ACA to pass and he continues to lie trying to keep it afloat.
The only positive to come out of ACA is that has finally forced the sheep to remove their rose-colored glasses and see Obama for what he truly is - a failure, a fraud, and a liar. His confidence rating has fallen well below that of George Bush's and he has realized the lowest confidence rating of any president in the modern era.
But you go ahead and support Obama and his program, Needed. Pretend that the fantasy world full of chocolate drops, candy canes, and lollipops that Obama promised you still exists. Watch your liberal media and let them continue to pump sunshine up your ass. The fools who fell for Obama's "Hope and Change" rhetoric are rapidly dwindling. No surprise that you're one of the ones still hanging on.
Needed

Mountain City, TN

#3 Dec 24, 2013
Snake Eyes wrote:
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You need to keep your lies straight, Needed. You were the same one who stated how easy it was for you and your family to sign up for ACA back in October when in fact, only six people were found to have been able to do so.
ACA has been a train wreck from its infancy. Republican leaders were against it and Democratic leaders were strong-armed into voting for it. Democrats up for reelection are throwing ACA and Obama under the bus and are just now admitting to ACAs disastrous consequences. The highly touted website was just one massive indicator of the disasters waiting to be realized by ACA. Never-ending changes that are made to "better" the program have repeatedly failed and have done nothing but infuriate Americans, politicians, and the insurance industry. Even ACAs most ardent Democratic supporters have allowed themselves and their staffs exemptions from the failed program. Numerous corporate cronies of Obama's have been granted exemptions from the program while hard-working Americans are threatened with civil repercussions if they fail to sign up for ACA. Obama lied to get ACA to pass and he continues to lie trying to keep it afloat.
The only positive to come out of ACA is that has finally forced the sheep to remove their rose-colored glasses and see Obama for what he truly is - a failure, a fraud, and a liar. His confidence rating has fallen well below that of George Bush's and he has realized the lowest confidence rating of any president in the modern era.
But you go ahead and support Obama and his program, Needed. Pretend that the fantasy world full of chocolate drops, candy canes, and lollipops that Obama promised you still exists. Watch your liberal media and let them continue to pump sunshine up your ass. The fools who fell for Obama's "Hope and Change" rhetoric are rapidly dwindling. No surprise that you're one of the ones still hanging on.
All I know is that I got signed up this morning and come next Wednesday my family will have coverage. I don't know what you are talking about but it is a relief for us to again have health insurance. Our premium will be $200.00 a month. That is a change for our family I can believe in. I suppose you have had coverage. We got priced out of the market in '09 before the A.C.A. Was passed and now we will be covered, so suck it!!
spurman1

San Antonio, TX

#4 Dec 28, 2013
I want to know, when will we have a chance to sign up again since we didn't sign up before the deadline?
Marty

Erin, TN

#5 Dec 28, 2013
spurman1 wrote:
I want to know, when will we have a chance to sign up again since we didn't sign up before the deadline?
There is no other chance. Not you will pay a fine or go to jail.
Marty

Erin, TN

#6 Dec 28, 2013
now***

Since: Dec 13

Franklin, NC

#7 Dec 28, 2013
Don't worry about signing up, the government will have enough exceptions soon enough that only the rich, self employed will be buying insurance. Those that have the marketplace policies, you better be sure you really have coverage and not a policy full of limitations & exclusions !
Thankful

Johnson City, TN

#8 Dec 28, 2013
Marty wrote:
<quoted text>There is no other chance. Not you will pay a fine or go to jail.
My adult son was priced out of insurance with BCBS about three years ago. He has three part-time incomes---an internet collectible/memorabilia store, farm income, and rental property income. He had to buy an individual policy, and BCBS of TN kept raising the premiums until at $770.00/ month he became discouraged and dropped his coverage! He was betting his property and all he had worked for that he would not have an accident or become ill!

Funny! Wendell Potter, an insurance CEO turned whistleblower, told Congress about the dirty tactics of insurance companies that my son and also my husband knew about first hand! BCBS was forced to issue overpayment checks to hundreds of thousands of customers---they were caught scalping and paying out too little in coverage. Both my son and my husband received refunds!

The irony is that my son is now again covered by BCBS through Obamacare! It hurt him to write a check to BCBS because he hates the greedy guts. But BCBS has the right to offer 13 plans in the Marketplace of the ACA that fit my son's income level and the amount of deductible, co-pay, total payout, premium size he could afford, etc. He signed up for coverage at reasonable rates with the ACA, and come January 1st his coverage will begin. Thank you, Democrats in Congress, for pushing through insurance reform and refusing to let the money-grubbers use people's health care as only another harvesting opportunity for Big Business!

My son signed up on Dec. 23rd at healthcare.gov NOT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LAST DAY BUT so that the coverage could start at the earliest opportunity, on Jan. 1st!

But everyone has through middle of March to sign up without penalty! Common sense tells me that the sooner you sign up, the sooner your insurance coverage will begin.
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#9 Dec 28, 2013
Needed wrote:
<quoted text>All I know is that I got signed up this morning and come next Wednesday my family will have coverage. I don't know what you are talking about but it is a relief for us to again have health insurance. Our premium will be $200.00 a month. That is a change for our family I can believe in. I suppose you have had coverage. We got priced out of the market in '09 before the A.C.A. Was passed and now we will be covered, so suck it!!
You're an liberal internet troll "Needed." Anything liberal you will post about, anything. Even if you actually did sign up on the ACA exchange and received a $200 family rate, which I seriously doubt, that would either mean you received a policy that has huge deductibles or it was subsidized by others. The actual price of the policy most likely was more than what it would have been off the exchange. You can thank taxpayers for your low rate, again, if you actually did sign up at this premium amount.

Here is a brief synopsis of how our president has fared during his second term. This is reported by the Huffington Post of all places. The great Oracle doesn't have such as stellar record to date and his following is dwindling. Much of the reason is due to the ACA you so proudly mention. If you actually benefit from it and like it, you are in the minority.
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#10 Dec 28, 2013
Thankful

Johnson City, TN

#11 Dec 28, 2013
Junk policies, for instance, could not be allowed to stand. We all know some plants and employers who offered insurance, but it was not any good when it came to a claim.

I think it is too soon to say our President has been a failure. The Republican party is not a friend of us middle class or former middle class. They are all for Big Busiess and Big Money, and the income gap is widening at evergrowing rate!

The article in your own link ends with this comment about the President:
"We all wear thin with the American people after a while," says McCain, though he warns against counting out any president with three years left to govern — particularly this one.

"To count a man of that talent out at this point in time in his administration would be a huge mistake," he says.
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#12 Dec 28, 2013
I am by no means counting him out. However, his report card to this point of his tenure does hold a lot of promise for the rest of his three years. You are incorrect by stating the GOP is not for the middle class, but I simply don't have the energy to get into it tonight. Our president is counting on keeping people reliant on the government for a decent standard of living. That's how his ideology and ideologists will keep getting re-elected. I realize I will never convince you of this, but it is becoming increasingly apparent that liberal policies don't work, especially without a bona fide leader.
Needed

Mountain City, TN

#13 Dec 29, 2013
Pop wrote:
I am by no means counting him out. However, his report card to this point of his tenure does hold a lot of promise for the rest of his three years. You are incorrect by stating the GOP is not for the middle class, but I simply don't have the energy to get into it tonight. Our president is counting on keeping people reliant on the government for a decent standard of living. That's how his ideology and ideologists will keep getting re-elected. I realize I will never convince you of this, but it is becoming increasingly apparent that liberal policies don't work, especially without a bona fide leader.
. You name three things the Republicans have done for the middle class in the U.S. if you can do that name three things they have done for the poor. For that matter lets change the word "done" to proposed.
Pop

United States

#14 Dec 29, 2013
Needed wrote:
<quoted text>. You name three things the Republicans have done for the middle class in the U.S. if you can do that name three things they have done for the poor. For that matter lets change the word "done" to proposed.
Remember those tax rebate checks good ole G.W. Bush sent out - twice? How about voting to provide federally mandated extended unemployment benefits? Ever wonder why inflation is so low for the past several years? They actually tried to stop the very thing that is killing our job market right now, i.e. the ACA. However, they were not allowed to do that. Therefore, the job market will remain dismal for at least a few more years.

The biggest thing Republicans have tried to do over the past 5 or so years is to provide an incentive to actually work instead of becoming addicted to government benefits. The only way to prosper and possess a quality standard of living is through earning it. There is no government that can provide this. There is no government that can help someone who chooses to do nothing. That is not to say all people doing nothing choose to. However, there are a lot who milk the system and plead for more benefits. You sound like one of those people.

Do something to help yourself or you are destined to poverty for the rest of your life.
Mazed

Johnson City, TN

#15 Dec 29, 2013
Pop wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember those tax rebate checks good ole G.W. Bush sent out - twice? How about voting to provide federally mandated extended unemployment benefits? Ever wonder why inflation is so low for the past several years? They actually tried to stop the very thing that is killing our job market right now, i.e. the ACA. However, they were not allowed to do that. Therefore, the job market will remain dismal for at least a few more years.
The biggest thing Republicans have tried to do over the past 5 or so years is to provide an incentive to actually work instead of becoming addicted to government benefits. The only way to prosper and possess a quality standard of living is through earning it. There is no government that can provide this. There is no government that can help someone who chooses to do nothing. That is not to say all people doing nothing choose to. However, there are a lot who milk the system and plead for more benefits. You sound like one of those people.
Do something to help yourself or you are destined to poverty for the rest of your life.
When George W. was elected, he thanked all his big business supporters by DEregulating big business practices (bigger profits for them) AND by cutting taxes. You see, he claimed cutting income taxes for the rich would lead to more jobs, but IT DID NOT WORK and STILL DOES NOT WORK to create jobs. The richest 1 or 2 % simply salt that savings away in investments to protect the future of their children.

Please explain exactly how the R's have tried to provide "incentive to work"?

Are you unaware of the recession, job losses and unemployment, and the crash of housing boom?(crash caused by deregulating bank and Wall Street practices, like bundling of mortgage loans into something called "derivatives") And you claim that the R's main contribution has been providing an INCENTIVE to work? In my poor county most would love to work!

Medical expenditures make up 16 or 17% of our whole economy. We definitely need health care reform! The obstructionist Republicans in Congress should work the bugs out of the attempts to make health services work better. And make it work better for people rather than for only the big insurance companies and hospital corporations!
And no, I will never believe that the Republicans are friends of the dwindling middle class or working class!
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#16 Dec 29, 2013
Mazed wrote:
<quoted text>
When George W. was elected, he thanked all his big business supporters by DEregulating big business practices (bigger profits for them) AND by cutting taxes. You see, he claimed cutting income taxes for the rich would lead to more jobs, but IT DID NOT WORK and STILL DOES NOT WORK to create jobs. The richest 1 or 2 % simply salt that savings away in investments to protect the future of their children.
Please explain exactly how the R's have tried to provide "incentive to work"?
Are you unaware of the recession, job losses and unemployment, and the crash of housing boom?(crash caused by deregulating bank and Wall Street practices, like bundling of mortgage loans into something called "derivatives") And you claim that the R's main contribution has been providing an INCENTIVE to work? In my poor county most would love to work!
Medical expenditures make up 16 or 17% of our whole economy. We definitely need health care reform! The obstructionist Republicans in Congress should work the bugs out of the attempts to make health services work better. And make it work better for people rather than for only the big insurance companies and hospital corporations!
And no, I will never believe that the Republicans are friends of the dwindling middle class or working class!
Please explain to me how continually extending unemployment provides an incentive to work? Please explain to me why exponentially increasing the food stamp and welfare programs provides an incentive to work? This is why we have high unemployment.

Before you start blaspheming G.W. Bush, have you seen who financed Obama's insertion into his prestigious office in 2008? Here is a chance to gain some actual knowledge.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/12...

Instead of me explaining basic national financing to you, read the below and then try to tell me how your view on inflating the economy is working, or how it has ever worked.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142...
Bella

Johnson City, TN

#17 Dec 29, 2013
Needed wrote:
<quoted text>. You name three things the Republicans have done for the middle class in the U.S. if you can do that name three things they have done for the poor. For that matter lets change the word "done" to proposed.
Three things they have done for the poor 1) cut their benefits so they can work and pull themselves up by their bootstraps 2) poured money into Wall Street and the wealthy so that it will trickle down like it hasn't in 32 Yeats since regan (is he still dead?) and 3) cut unemployment for victims of this economy that is BOOMING at the TOP and falling apart at the bottom ( most of these fool voted for them)

I have a holiday wish for Phil roes family. Pancreatic cancer. Not in a mean way. One of them will get the cancer and then their FREE healthcare that they voted themselves for life will work and we will all know how smart congress is and it will restore faith in how smart they are .... Roe went into congress with a net worth of $1 million, now it's triple that... Congress has been very very food to him...and you blooming idiots will give him 80% of the vote next election. Know why? Because Obamacare doesn't cover STUPID.....
Pop

Elizabethton, TN

#18 Dec 29, 2013
Bella wrote:
<quoted text>
Three things they have done for the poor 1) cut their benefits so they can work and pull themselves up by their bootstraps 2) poured money into Wall Street and the wealthy so that it will trickle down like it hasn't in 32 Yeats since regan (is he still dead?) and 3) cut unemployment for victims of this economy that is BOOMING at the TOP and falling apart at the bottom ( most of these fool voted for them)
I have a holiday wish for Phil roes family. Pancreatic cancer. Not in a mean way. One of them will get the cancer and then their FREE healthcare that they voted themselves for life will work and we will all know how smart congress is and it will restore faith in how smart they are .... Roe went into congress with a net worth of $1 million, now it's triple that... Congress has been very very food to him...and you blooming idiots will give him 80% of the vote next election. Know why? Because Obamacare doesn't cover STUPID.....
Your #1 is a good thing. Your #2 resulted in the best economy the nation has had in a long time during the Reagan years. Your #3 is why the economy isn't booming at the bottom. Unemployment rewards breeds more unemployment.

The ACA is another reason why the economy is faltering at the bottom. Another thing, did you know the Congress is composed of democrats and republicans? Democrats voted themselves free healthcare as well. Your slant of the facts is obvious.

Roe's wealth has no bearing on you or anyone else, why be jealous? If you want a quality standard of living, go earn it. That's the only way it will happen.

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