Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9774 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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Hey

Crossville, TN

#7876 May 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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As vaccine rates drop, whooping cough returned. Measles returned. Mumps returned.
Polio only exists in areas where people are unvaccinated.
Small pox disapeared only after vaccinations.
You can put up any link you want, the fact of the matter is the historical evidence is ABUNDANTLY clear.
Horse crap.
Was Salk anti vac too? Merck scientists?WHO people?ETc,etc.
How come he came forward to the Senate to tell them the polio vac was giving Polio?
How come thousands of kids are screwed up in India from the Polio vac with the help of Bill Gates? Come on tell me that did not happen?
Historical evidence shows the Smallpox Vaccine was giving people Smallpox and the people caught on and mandate was thrown out the window.Why?
I can put up any link I want but they of course are no good cause you say so. You say so historicaly?All righty then.Sure.
Many people,experts,doctors,scienti sts,etc,have come forward.Are you one of those who these links are coming from?
Where are you links? I only see sarcasm.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#7877 May 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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You don't have a grasp on what the word "credibility" means.
You claim that the anti-vax crowd, which has based its entire argument on fraud is credible, while "government" is not - despite the fact that government uses actual science to prove it's point.
Pharma companies have BENT OVER BACKWARDS to placate the anti-vax crowd. They went so far as to remove thymerisol from vaccines despite the fact that it was CLEARLY not the cause of autism. And, EVEN AFTER REMOVING IT, anti-vaxers are _STILL_ claiming it's present AND is the cause of autism.
Why do they believe this? Because they read about it on the internet from some conspiracy theorist like yourself.
Respectfully, I disagree that a significant body of the collective voice of dissent is predicated upon "fraud," alone. You further assert that "government" uses "actual science" to prove its point. While your first contention is erroneous, the second is correct, only to the extent that today's science brings to bear a thresh-hold of integrity either governmentally required, institutionally funded, or enhanced by more responsible science based upon acceptable levels of research tomorrow!

I have found the voices of dissent to be the ONLY fraternity fully grasping the import of a clinical, governmental and institution "integrity"! You'd be well served to remember that government has used science to "prove its point" before a world witnessing in horror a growing enumeration of unintended consequences in every pursuit and discipline imaginable. Respectfully, I will not frolic in what would quickly become redundant! The failures of inadequately researched vaccines is entirely self evident to anyone of basic human intelligence in diligent search of truth.

The available evidence to support the reasonable belief and attribution of "causation" of many vaccine related injury and death has already been established to "judicial" and "forensic" standards. Prominently, the pharmacies and/or clinicians involved cannot and will not legally attest to "non-causation" of "any" vaccines in the instance of "autism" and many other horrific end results, yet insinuate this to be the case by simply suggesting that causation can't be "proven"!

What esoteric insolence..and institutional arrogance! Not only will big Pharma and their complicit government institutions admit they can't and will not "legally" affirm to judicial standards that their wares will do no harm, they buy the necessary legislation from a corrupt legislature to exempt practitioners, holding them harmless from all torte law potentialities and damages. Unbelievable!

Simply put, no one can prove or disprove "causation" at this point outside the sphere of common sense in interpreting the wealth of evidence in plain view for all to see. Clearly, your notion that none of the carriers, active ingredients, inert ingredients and preservatives do not cause autism and/or other brain related injuries is your personal opinion. The greater evidence says otherwise!

There's a big difference in government "proving" "non-causation" and simply saying - trust us with your family and your children..we have such a track record of..."Integrity"?
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7878 May 28, 2013
By God I found another interesting link about the Small pox vaccine.The history too.
It's Historical
http"//www.vaclib.org/new s/smallpoxalert.htm
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7879 May 28, 2013
truthhurts

United States

#7880 May 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have a grasp on what the word "credibility" means.
You claim that the anti-vax crowd, which has based its entire argument on fraud is credible, while "government" is not - despite the fact that government uses actual science to prove it's point.
Pharma companies have BENT OVER BACKWARDS to placate the anti-vax crowd. They went so far as to remove thymerisol from vaccines despite the fact that it was CLEARLY not the cause of autism. And, EVEN AFTER REMOVING IT, anti-vaxers are _STILL_ claiming it's present AND is the cause of autism.
Why do they believe this? Because they read about it on the internet from some conspiracy theorist like yourself.
now thats funny, sick but funny. Check out the employment history of the top 3 FDA guys they bounce back n forth from gov to pharma jobs like crazy and you trust them to be truthfull or objective ? Wanna buy a bridge ?
NOT MINE

Nashville, TN

#7881 May 28, 2013
When you trade freedom for safety, you deserve neither and often lose both....just saying I don't trust them at all and if I had enough money to home school my child he would never receive another vaccine. He may be a disposable casualty for the rest of the world but to me he is irreplaceable. I was sort of just trapped by my situation to have him vaccinated up to his 4yr shots, not happy about it.
Bats

Keller, TX

#7882 May 28, 2013
NOT MINE wrote:
When you trade freedom for safety, you deserve neither and often lose both....just saying I don't trust them at all and if I had enough money to home school my child he would never receive another vaccine. He may be a disposable casualty for the rest of the world but to me he is irreplaceable. I was sort of just trapped by my situation to have him vaccinated up to his 4yr shots, not happy about it.
The people of today do not want Freedom nor safty, the only want evil Dictators.
Geeze

Sparta, TN

#7883 May 28, 2013
There have been 83 confirmed cases of autism covered as table injuries by VICP. That's just the complainants willing to discuss their cases.

Look it up. Go through the cases. Out of 1400+.

If you want to FOIA the VICP to get all the info on all 1400 cases you'll need $275,000 & it will take 10 years. Call them yourself.
just saying

United States

#7884 May 28, 2013
My friends newborn was full of life and seemed vary happy, this kid was awesome then he received a bunch of vaccinations all at once, that evening he wasn't his usual self, he seemed vary lethargic, that night he passed away in his sleep. The doctor gave the generic answer SIDS, when asked what caused the SIDS after an autopsy the answer was we don't know. Not only did the child die but it tore apart their marriage and the father my best friend took his own life. Could this of been a coincidence sure but from what I've seen and heard I would bet it all that it was the vaccinations. Now I'm not saying all vaccinations are bad and maybe their all fine but doctors need to stop giving infants many vaccinations all at the same time. I think one of the biggest problem is most doctors care more about cramming everything they can charge for into the shortest amount of time as possible so they can maximize on their profits, and this is hurting everyone's health in the long run.
Silvermaven

United States

#7885 May 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Wow, you are all over the place.
You are actually blaming vaccines which prevent viruses for chronic bacterial infections which are a result of antibiotic resistant strains.
Between two different posts, you've claimed that 1 in 22 people are Autistic and that nearly all autistic people have chronic strep. Which means that ~1 in 25 people have chronic strep? Seriously?
Given how strep is contagious, you would think we'd notice if the infection rate were that high.
By the way, "epidemic".
You've made claims without foundation nor evidence.
You've failed to address my points that polio is NOT a disease which effects people in America anymore.
We know EXACTLY when the polio vaccine was administered, so show me that medical data that shows a corresponding rise in whatever disease you think was caused by the vaccine. That data should be EASY for you to find.
I'm not talking speculation about potential effects on the immune system blah blah blah.
I'm talking REAL cases of REAL disease. We vaccinated the ENTIRE country in a very short period of time. Where's the data?
Read the worlds leading Virologist, Discoverer of HIV, Discoverer of the REAL cause of AIDS tell you what is causeing our Age of Syndromes.


Probable spirochetal etiology could be demonstrated for 41 of 45 (91%) patients with clinical symptoms of chronic meningitis. Approximately 25% of the patients had significantly elevated titers of antibody to the spirochete in CSF but not in serum.
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/19272...
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So if they found spirochetal disease in 41 of 45 people with Meningitis what exactly is it they are vaccinating to prevent?

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7886 May 29, 2013
Hey wrote:
How much do you get pushing their drugs?
I love the fact that your go to in these arguments is to claim that anyone who disagrees with your bullsh1t is being paid to disagree with you.

Guess what, nitwit. No one needs to pay me to point out your full of crap.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7887 May 29, 2013
Hey wrote:
How come thousands of kids are screwed up in India from the Polio vac with the help of Bill Gates? Come on tell me that did not happen?
Here's your choice.

10 million kids get polio -or- 10 thousand kids get polio.

Which is the better choice?

There is NO scenario in which no one gets polio until everyone is vaccinated.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7888 May 29, 2013
truthhurts wrote:
<quoted text>now thats funny, sick but funny. Check out the employment history of the top 3 FDA guys they bounce back n forth from gov to pharma jobs like crazy and you trust them to be truthfull or objective ? Wanna buy a bridge ?
I know that if I'm going to hire someone to head an agency of the government, the last thing I would do is hire someone who has worked in the field.

That's why we NEVER have military people serving in the Department of Defense. That's why we NEVER have lawyers writing our laws. That's why we NEVER have someone with a doctorate in environmental studies working at the EPA.

OF COURSE the people working for the FDA have a background in pharmaceuticals. That's who you HIRE for the job.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#7889 May 29, 2013
just saying wrote:
My friends newborn was full of life and seemed vary happy, this kid was awesome then he received a bunch of vaccinations all at once, that evening he wasn't his usual self, he seemed vary lethargic, that night he passed away in his sleep. The doctor gave the generic answer SIDS, when asked what caused the SIDS after an autopsy the answer was we don't know. Not only did the child die but it tore apart their marriage and the father my best friend took his own life. Could this of been a coincidence sure but from what I've seen and heard I would bet it all that it was the vaccinations. Now I'm not saying all vaccinations are bad and maybe their all fine but doctors need to stop giving infants many vaccinations all at the same time. I think one of the biggest problem is most doctors care more about cramming everything they can charge for into the shortest amount of time as possible so they can maximize on their profits, and this is hurting everyone's health in the long run.
Name. Date. State. Link to article in paper. Email address for parents or Doctor. ANY verification at all?
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7890 May 29, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Name. Date. State. Link to article in paper. Email address for parents or Doctor. ANY verification at all?
What are you a Friggin Cop and working for FREE no doubt.
Now y'all want the LINKS?
To LINK or not to LINK that is the Question Nuggie.
Where's your link that say's this link perhaps is not linked,Nuggie?
Hey

Crossville, TN

#7891 May 29, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's your choice.
10 million kids get polio -or- 10 thousand kids get polio.
Which is the better choice?
There is NO scenario in which no one gets polio until everyone is vaccinated.
Where's the links.
How many cases of polio in India before the gift from Bill Gates.
Links please?
Dates of these million polio cases.
Links please.
It was 47 plus thousand.Already put links up previously.You are welcome.
just saying

United States

#7894 May 29, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Name. Date. State. Link to article in paper. Email address for parents or Doctor. ANY verification at all?
You know damn well I'm not posting any of their names and as for articles in the paper, what world do you live in where you think that every death has an article. I would give you the Doctors name though if I knew it as for the state and town it doesn't really do much good but it was Ft. Myers Florida around 5 years ago. I would give you an exact date but I have to find the papers from the funerals. But even if I did it wouldn't matter because you're on a crusade and nothing short of your family members dying would ever change your mind.
Someone

Johnson City, TN

#7895 May 29, 2013
just saying wrote:
<quoted text>
You know damn well I'm not posting any of their names and as for articles in the paper, what world do you live in where you think that every death has an article. I would give you the Doctors name though if I knew it as for the state and town it doesn't really do much good but it was Ft. Myers Florida around 5 years ago. I would give you an exact date but I have to find the papers from the funerals. But even if I did it wouldn't matter because you're on a crusade and nothing short of your family members dying would ever change your mind.
Sounds like an urban legend.
just saying

United States

#7896 May 29, 2013
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like an urban legend.


Yeah you're right, pharmaceutical companies are perfect and nobody has ever died because of their incompetence. And all Doctors care only about your health, they all could care less about their profits. If a pharmaceutical company ever made a mistake the first thing they would do is go public with their mistake even if that meant destroying their multi billion dollar corporation.

Keep dreaming you fools!!!
just saying

United States

#7897 May 29, 2013
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like an urban legend.
It would be real funny if someone murdered some of the people you care about.

Wow their is nothing more funny then unnecessary death.

But I guess if someone shot someone you cared about but no one was ever caught then I guess all that really happened was lead poisoning.

I guess your loved ones should of been more careful handling lead.

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