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Senator Crowe votes for committee bills busting Tennessee teachers union

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Elmer Gantry

Johnson City, TN

#1 Feb 17, 2011
Tennessee Senate GOPers advance bill to bust teachers' union (TEA)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...

Senate Education Committee Video - February 16, 2011
http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/videowrapper/...
Awesome

Kingsport, TN

#2 Feb 17, 2011
Good for Rusty!
dumprusty

Lebanon, TN

#3 Feb 17, 2011
must be something in it for crowe
Dick

Asheville, NC

#4 Feb 17, 2011
Why should teachers need to collectively bargain anyway? They are probably the highest paid workers in the state! Why should they be able to fight for their rights in the workplace? Good for Rusty all teachers do is mold our kids for the future.
Awesome

Kingsport, TN

#5 Feb 17, 2011
Something in it for Crowe? Are you joking - he'll be hounded by the damn TEA for doing it. But good for him. He's doing the right thing and looking out for students!! We need more like him.
rightwinger

Jonesborough, TN

#6 Feb 18, 2011
way to go rusty, teachers have the easiest job in the state,by the time you add up sick days and every concievable holiday,not to mention snow days, per actual hr worked not even lawyers make as much, not even considering pensions and paid health insurance, makem pay their fair share just like everyone else does that work.lets payem by the hr get some timeclocks pay them a fair wage by the actual hrs worked, just like everyone else in the working world
Rightwinger is Clueless

Elizabethton, TN

#7 Feb 18, 2011
You are truly clueless. If the state of Tennessee paid teachers for the amount of time they spent working after school and on the weekends planning, grading papers, doing hours of paperwork, it would bankrupt the state. For the time and money spent in college (5 years and around $40,000 for tuitions costs) what little they get paid is WELL worth it. Not to mention all the out of pocket money they spend on their underfunded classrooms. I don't know why anyone would become a teacher and take the crap they deal with on a daily basis. Rightwinger, you volunteer in a classroom or substitute sometime and then you can talk about teachers and their pie jobs?
THANKS

United States

#8 Feb 18, 2011
Thank you so much for your post! As a teacher, most of my time is voluntary. What a joke....... paying us by the hour. I consider teaching to be one of the most important professions with the least amount of appreciation. YES! Hater needs to substitute a few days! He wouldn't last an hour! That is if he passed the screening process! I needed a good laugh!
teacher

Whitwell, TN

#9 Feb 18, 2011
Debt for BA degree 54,00..Debt for masters degree 10,000....take home pay 2,047 per month....out of pocket supplies per week 30 (120.00 per month)....student loan payment 365 per month....hours spent at home working, 2 hours daily plus about 5 hours on weekends.....snow days must be made up, insurance is only paid if you are single......these are the facts. Teachers paid by the hour....I love the idea, I would get paid a lot more and maybe would be able to quit my second job that I must work just to help pay my student loan
LookingForNewPro fession

Nashville, TN

#10 Feb 18, 2011
I think we ought to start discussing the lack parenting. Maybe there should be a law that requires all politicians and parents to substitute teach for one solid week per year with the same amount of pay teachers receive if they think the teaching profession is so dog gone easy. Are teachers really the reason students are not achieving at their highest potential? I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that their parents are not home when their kids get off the bus? I wonder if the discipline problems and lack of student learning has anything to do with the high divorce rate in our country? I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that very few parents show up to parent teach conferences? Why do parents complain about individuals who go to college earn a degree and make a living wage? This area is the only place I have ever lived that puts down people who want to achieve more than their parents did--it is some kind of cultural thing around here. I don't get it.
Ex Union Man

Johnson City, TN

#11 Feb 18, 2011
But why do you pay someone to keep your job for you? Tennessee is a right to work state. If a person is doing his job; he should not need another person representing him . The Union is the cause of a lot of companies going out of business. Look at what happened to NARC and Bemberg in Elizabethton. and the Snap on tools in JC. Just 3 of the many.

When the unions first started it was a fine thing, then the mobsters took over and ruined everthing for the working man.

REALLY

United States

#12 Feb 18, 2011
Really??? Mobsters??? It's hard to believe the Teacher's Union, who lobbies for teachers to have a duty free lunch, could be compared to Al Capone and the mobsters!
No Need

Kingsport, TN

#13 Feb 18, 2011
For public employees to have unions is a contradiction. The Government/Courts/Legislature originally allowed collective bargaining to pressure private sector employers to provide safe working conditions and benefits for ITS employees.

By definition the GOVERNMENT is the protector of those rights. Ergo the Government is abdicating those responsibilities when it submits to collective bargaining with public employee unions.

End the mob's role in otherwise decent professions.
REALLY

United States

#14 Feb 18, 2011
The government doesn't hire me, evaluate my ability, or set my salary. Specific people do that. People who are very political, unethical, and occasionally immoral. The union helps keep them in check. A balance of power is a good idea!
Republican

Asheville, NC

#15 Feb 18, 2011
Teachers need to suck it up! They don't deserve what they get.
old timer

Johnson City, TN

#16 Feb 18, 2011
Lots of people go to college for degrees in something other than education and they have just as many loans to pay back and work just as many, if not more, hours than Teachers and they DO NOT get summers off! So why aren't we in a union? As I recall , back in the 80's there were lots of "union members" who lost EVERYTHING they had! Several committed suicide. Bottom line...Teachers, if you are doing your job and you like what you do than what do you have to worry about?
old timer

Johnson City, TN

#17 Feb 18, 2011
Ex Union Man wrote:
But why do you pay someone to keep your job for you? Tennessee is a right to work state. If a person is doing his job; he should not need another person representing him . The Union is the cause of a lot of companies going out of business. Look at what happened to NARC and Bemberg in Elizabethton. and the Snap on tools in JC. Just 3 of the many.
When the unions first started it was a fine thing, then the mobsters took over and ruined everthing for the working man.
. I agree. Retired from Eastman. Worked 12 hour swing shifts. That's 48 hrs per week. Eastman has never been part of any union and we are doing just fine
REALLY

United States

#18 Feb 19, 2011
By the way "old timer" it should have been "then" not "than", and since you haven't actually figured it out yet...WE DON'T GET PAID FOR THE SUMMERS! Most of us have to pick up work to pay ours bills. I realize that there are ineffective teachers who give us all a bad reputation, but you obviously have NO CLUE the challenges we face. I take my job seriously! TEACHERS MAKE ALL OTHER JOBS POSSIBLE!
teacher

United States

#19 Feb 19, 2011
If you are not a teacher than why are you worried about if I am in a union? I don't care if you are. The union protects teachers from being fired for the WRONG reasons. Teachers can be fired if a union member if it is for a good reason. Sometimes board members try to fire a good teacher just to make room for a family member, the union stops that. The union also protects teachers when crazy drug addict parents lie on teachers just trying to get money from the board. Summers off blahah that is funny. The kids get summers off. I am in my room setting up new centers, creating files, attending workshops etc. Anyone who thinks we get way more than we deserve, I am sure your local school system would be happy to let you walk in a teachers shoes for a week.
Green Goat

United States

#20 Feb 19, 2011
rightwinger wrote:
way to go rusty, teachers have the easiest job in the state,by the time you add up sick days and every concievable holiday,not to mention snow days, per actual hr worked not even lawyers make as much, not even considering pensions and paid health insurance, makem pay their fair share just like everyone else does that work.lets payem by the hr get some timeclocks pay them a fair wage by the actual hrs worked, just like everyone else in the working world
Teachers are paid for days worked. The amount is spread out over 12 months of equal payments. Summer break, Holiday breaks and snow days are not paid work days. My planning period is 6:00 am before work and after work as well as on the weekends. I would love to get paid by the hour becuse I'm putting in 70 hours a week and getting paid for 40. I eat my lunch in the hallway while going from one class to another. And now teachers are being told their pay is based on students scores, regardless if the student puts forth any effort, has adequate sleep and nutrition, has some sort of family life and support (which for most there is none.) Oh yeah, our benefits rock, lol..... Teaching, easy as fishing...lol

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