Old ETWNC

Kingsport, TN

#1 Apr 3, 2014
Well now I see a big "open" bid is up to help build the Tweetsie Trail, bridges and such. I wonder which cronies will get that contract! Perhaps the outfit that already t donated "free "work for a bridge ;)?. Another profit boondoggle for the good old boys. We have been had again! The propaganda tells us that we will all be soon walking to work or school on the trail. Get real! Seriously what is between JC and Etown, other than the Milligan Highway? And what is with this new spur to Tipton Haynes? I never heard of that in the original mix.
Jaded

Kingsport, TN

#2 Apr 4, 2014
Old ETWNC wrote:
Well now I see a big "open" bid is up to help build the Tweetsie Trail, bridges and such. I wonder which cronies will get that contract! Perhaps the outfit that already t donated "free "work for a bridge ;)?. Another profit boondoggle for the good old boys. We have been had again! The propaganda tells us that we will all be soon walking to work or school on the trail. Get real! Seriously what is between JC and Etown, other than the Milligan Highway? And what is with this new spur to Tipton Haynes? I never heard of that in the original mix.
yes, what gives here? This spur to Tipton Haynes was never mentioned until now. From what I can see the trail is half busy with a bunch of plows and backhoes sitting around at the intersection of Alabama and Legion streets. I guess they are just waiting for some cronies to foot the bill and get a good contract from it all. I'm afraid this trail will be no more than a stretch of trail that already is encroaching on a few homeless people squatting in the woods not 100 yards from the starting point. Yep, it's true. Somebody is getting some serious pocket lettuce from this fiasco.
Ready

United States

#3 Apr 10, 2014
Good things coming
MrCrowley

Kingsport, TN

#4 Apr 11, 2014
Ready wrote:
Good things coming
I sure hope good things are coming for the trail, but I wish to goodness they would move that damned sign that blocks the view of speeding traffic coming down Legion street when you try to turn from Alabama street! I live a block away from the start of the trail and have wanted to walk part of the developing new trail out of pure nosiness, but the no trespassing signs advise me not to. The suspense is killing me, wondering how they are going to make it safe across the old trestles and road crossings. I guess I'll just have to wait for the grand opening on Labor day to see for myself.
I notice that citizen funding is being begged for and that makes me a little skeptical of it all. Seriously, I wouldn't plunk down a large sum of money to have "The (my name inserted) Memorial Foot Path" across a stretch of gravel, but I might possibly purchase a tee shirt at the right price. I sure hope the trail doesn't raise my property taxes or subject me to a bunch of miscreants hanging out there, not that that is anything new in this neighborhood. I checked out their site with the pros and cons of it all and I'm not convinced either way as to whether it is a good thing or not. Some of the b.s. on the site is obvious, such as a good way for somebody to walk to work or go to the grocery store, etc. You can do that on the Milligan highway, and nobody in their right mind would! I'm only joking, but there's a lot of b.s. being thrown around in favor of it.
anon

Kingsport, TN

#5 Apr 11, 2014
Old ETWNC wrote:
Well now I see a big "open" bid is up to help build the Tweetsie Trail, bridges and such. I wonder which cronies will get that contract! Perhaps the outfit that already t donated "free "work for a bridge ;)?. Another profit boondoggle for the good old boys. We have been had again! The propaganda tells us that we will all be soon walking to work or school on the trail. Get real! Seriously what is between JC and Etown, other than the Milligan Highway? And what is with this new spur to Tipton Haynes? I never heard of that in the original mix.
Seems like the public works director for johnson city is heading up the tweetsie trail bs. No bigger crook than him. I'm sure he sees a way to personally profit from the work.
Dad

Johnson City, TN

#6 Apr 11, 2014
Nothing makes you people happy.
Jaded

Kingsport, TN

#7 Apr 11, 2014
Dad wrote:
Nothing makes you people happy.
What is there to be happy about? It is just another get richer scheme for the big dogs at our expense. The adjacent land owners have already been cheated out of land that was rightfully theirs.
MrCrowley

Kingsport, TN

#8 Apr 12, 2014
Dad wrote:
Nothing makes you people happy.
Dad, while you are happily moseying down the trail, don't tarry too long at the first overhead bridge, wondering why condoms are floating in the creek and some of the neighbors are cussing one another out in the back yards..........some drunk might chuck a beer bottle off the bridge and conk you in the noggin with it. Would that make you happy? Face the facts, Dad. This fiasco is ridiculous.
Dad

Johnson City, TN

#9 Apr 12, 2014
My family will be among the first to use this trail. We are very excited. I am not the minority in my stance on the trail.
Trailmix

Kingsport, TN

#10 Apr 24, 2014
Dad wrote:
My family will be among the first to use this trail. We are very excited. I am not the minority in my stance on the trail.
I sure hope the trail pans out to be all it is supposed to be, but I'm skeptical. It seems special interest groups have taken advantage of it already, and it's not even formed yet. This spur leading off to Tipton Haynes sure came out of the blue, but I guess since it is on the map it must be true. Who came up with that one? I've not seen much action going on there lately, just a bunch of idle earth moving machinery. Let's hope it will be at least a good place to stretch our limbs and not have to put up with a bunch of dopers and thugs.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#11 Apr 29, 2014
The Tweetsie Trail is a magnificent example of the local monied ruling class, being totally out of touch with the needs of the community.

Its also a pretty typical example of a government boondoggle.

The reason the railroads came in to start with, was to bring manufacturing jobs to the area.

That was back before the job exportation laws, such as NAFTA went into effect.

(That was when America still offered opportunity)

Now the Federal government pays companies to move to sweat shop operations in places like Mexico and Communist China,(where human rights, forced convict labor, and child labor restrictions, arent a problem).

Perhaps the guys that made your Big-Mart shirt, was some poor Chinese guy that got caught with a Bible, or listening to an American radio program. Next thing you know he is in some forced labor camp sewing shirts for Big-Mart?)

They ( US government) actually pay the companies to close thier doors in America and go overseas.

Meanwhile back home, the nation is sinking into economic oblivion while the super rich elite in the retail business sell thier foreign, sweat shop made, cheaply and poorly made junk to us at full retail prices and make billions.

And while the people are suffering tremendously for want of jobs, the only thing the local elite can think of is to build a walking trail where the railroads used to be?

Really?

I suppose it never occurred to the elitist, that we might do better to at least try and attract some manufacturing jobs back?

Which will be nearly impossible, now that we have no railroads.

What a sad commentary on the state of things.

Is this where the local empty heads in the local media read us some pre-digested, and faked cheerfulness sound bite about the trails opening, and us poor stupid citizens are supposed to clap like trained seals or something?
MrCrowley

Kingsport, TN

#12 Apr 29, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
The Tweetsie Trail is a magnificent example of the local monied ruling class, being totally out of touch with the needs of the community.
Its also a pretty typical example of a government boondoggle.
The reason the railroads came in to start with, was to bring manufacturing jobs to the area.
That was back before the job exportation laws, such as NAFTA went into effect.
(That was when America still offered opportunity)
Now the Federal government pays companies to move to sweat shop operations in places like Mexico and Communist China,(where human rights, forced convict labor, and child labor restrictions, arent a problem).
Perhaps the guys that made your Big-Mart shirt, was some poor Chinese guy that got caught with a Bible, or listening to an American radio program. Next thing you know he is in some forced labor camp sewing shirts for Big-Mart?)
They ( US government) actually pay the companies to close thier doors in America and go overseas.
Meanwhile back home, the nation is sinking into economic oblivion while the super rich elite in the retail business sell thier foreign, sweat shop made, cheaply and poorly made junk to us at full retail prices and make billions.
And while the people are suffering tremendously for want of jobs, the only thing the local elite can think of is to build a walking trail where the railroads used to be?
Really?
I suppose it never occurred to the elitist, that we might do better to at least try and attract some manufacturing jobs back?
Which will be nearly impossible, now that we have no railroads.
What a sad commentary on the state of things.
Is this where the local empty heads in the local media read us some pre-digested, and faked cheerfulness sound bite about the trails opening, and us poor stupid citizens are supposed to clap like trained seals or something?
Amen Hillbilly! That says it all.
Hillbillyboy

United States

#13 May 1, 2014
I remember back in the 1990s, that Oaf, Bill Clinton once told the news media that folks who couldnt get behind NAFTA were "domestic terrorist", or something of the like.

What a Looser, Bill Clinton.

That old baggy eyed, bulb nose old jerk. He reminded us all of some boozed out used car salesman on shinbone alley.

You knew he was lying when his lips were moving.

Whos he to call people names?

But he gave us NAFTA (a political pay back move, I suppose).

I think we should erect a statue of Bill Clinton beside the Tweetsie Trail.

That way, everyone who walks on the trail could make the connection between NAFTA, the loss of American jobs, the collapse of the American infrastructure, and the Tweetsie Trail.
Dogmatic

Kingsport, TN

#14 May 2, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
I remember back in the 1990s, that Oaf, Bill Clinton once told the news media that folks who couldnt get behind NAFTA were "domestic terrorist", or something of the like.
What a Looser, Bill Clinton.
That old baggy eyed, bulb nose old jerk. He reminded us all of some boozed out used car salesman on shinbone alley.
You knew he was lying when his lips were moving.
Whos he to call people names?
But he gave us NAFTA (a political pay back move, I suppose).
I think we should erect a statue of Bill Clinton beside the Tweetsie Trail.
That way, everyone who walks on the trail could make the connection between NAFTA, the loss of American jobs, the collapse of the American infrastructure, and the Tweetsie Trail.
Gosh, I don't want to drag Bill Clinton or Obama , the ghost of Macarthy or the memories of Nixon, old Reagan a'moulding in the grave or even Red Skelton into this. Plain and simple, it is a local thing with local money to be made by local scoundrels, no more, no less. How is it that any topic of discussion winds up as a cussin' of national politics? Can't you lay off a while and keep it local? No national politicians made this Tweetsie Trail exist. It is just plain old home talk stinking like c'yarn that would exist in any political arena, no matter what political party exists. But as for a disgraceful monument to be erected at the site..........how about a mirror?
Hillbillyboy

United States

#15 May 2, 2014
Dogmatic wrote:
<quoted text>Gosh, I don't want to drag Bill Clinton or Obama , the ghost of Macarthy or the memories of Nixon, old Reagan a'moulding in the grave or even Red Skelton into this. Plain and simple, it is a local thing with local money to be made by local scoundrels, no more, no less. How is it that any topic of discussion winds up as a cussin' of national politics? Can't you lay off a while and keep it local? No national politicians made this Tweetsie Trail exist. It is just plain old home talk stinking like c'yarn that would exist in any political arena, no matter what political party exists. But as for a disgraceful monument to be erected at the site..........how about a mirror?
Youre a silly person, and you have silly and naive ideas.

Of course it was Bill Clinton who pushed the Nafta Law through a kangaroo Congress.

Same way Obamacare was crammed through a kangaroo Congress.

Nafta resulted in the collapse of American manufacturing jobs, which resulted in us having so many closed and abandoned factories and abandoned railroad tracks.

And you cant see the national politics ties in any of this?

Really?

I bet you go to "Big-Mart" and shop every day, and never think twice about who was really responsible for getting crooked ole Bill Clinton to cram that travesty of a law through?

Do you not make any of these connections in your mind?

Really?

Believe everything you see on TV? Still think Obama is fr the poor man? Still cant make the connection between Nafta and abandoned factories and abandoned rail lines and a much poorer American people?

Really?

Like I said...Naive and Silly.
Clinchfield

Johnson City, TN

#16 May 2, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Youre a silly person, and you have silly and naive ideas.
Of course it was Bill Clinton who pushed the Nafta Law through a kangaroo Congress.
Same way Obamacare was crammed through a kangaroo Congress.
Nafta resulted in the collapse of American manufacturing jobs, which resulted in us having so many closed and abandoned factories and abandoned railroad tracks.
And you cant see the national politics ties in any of this?
Really?
I bet you go to "Big-Mart" and shop every day, and never think twice about who was really responsible for getting crooked ole Bill Clinton to cram that travesty of a law through?
Do you not make any of these connections in your mind?
Really?
Believe everything you see on TV? Still think Obama is fr the poor man? Still cant make the connection between Nafta and abandoned factories and abandoned rail lines and a much poorer American people?
Really?
Like I said...Naive and Silly.
When plans to build the trail were solidified my first impression was Elizabethton/Carter County will never be an industrial area like it once was. I suppose in the event of an emergency new lines could be laid on the trail, easily, but all that steel is probably now in China. The above rant sounds like the "Good Will Hunting" rant. i.e. why bother because it's all screwed up. Outside of Sullivan County the economy is expected to be tourism and agriculture. That's the plan. For all the millions Johnson City has spent on trying unsuccessfully to attract tourism this plan is the only one that shows promise.
Dogmatic

Kingsport, TN

#17 May 2, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Youre a silly person, and you have silly and naive ideas.
Of course it was Bill Clinton who pushed the Nafta Law through a kangaroo Congress.
Same way Obamacare was crammed through a kangaroo Congress.
Nafta resulted in the collapse of American manufacturing jobs, which resulted in us having so many closed and abandoned factories and abandoned railroad tracks.
And you cant see the national politics ties in any of this?
Really?
I bet you go to "Big-Mart" and shop every day, and never think twice about who was really responsible for getting crooked ole Bill Clinton to cram that travesty of a law through?
Do you not make any of these connections in your mind?
Really?
Believe everything you see on TV? Still think Obama is fr the poor man? Still cant make the connection between Nafta and abandoned factories and abandoned rail lines and a much poorer American people?
Really?
Like I said...Naive and Silly.
Well boy, if you want to get technical, your hero Ronald Reagan created the rail banking legislation in the 80's, allowing local grub worm businessmen and politicians to cheat the real land owners under easement out of their land when a railroad goes under. Regardless of who's to blame, the parasitic businessmen get the honey.For such a brilliant thinker, you fail to do your homework. I do agree Clinton laid out the NAFTA tragedy, but the ball was already rolling thanks to Reagan. If I had to pick sides, I'd tell Reagan, Clinton and you to kiss my a**!

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