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#21 Jul 1, 2013
HELLO wrote:
Wow that's some load of doo doo coming from the democrats and no I'm not republican just acutely aware that abortion is wrong. Plain and simple. Got nothing to do with repubs or dems. God is the only one who has the right to take a life. If you are raped and get pregnant that is God's will.
HELLOO, you are not some sort of Roman Catholic priest that ties this tripe to his alter boys - are you?

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#22 Jul 1, 2013
correction: altar...

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#23 Jul 1, 2013
Sister Fatima wrote:
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If you wish to have a meaningful conversation (or learn anything new) youre going to have to be willing to consider other possibilities such as "Does God even exist?"
People who abandon logic cannot be reasoned with. It will be difficult for you to get anything other than a negative response to such a definitive comment such as the one above. It is a terrible case of circular reasoning that cannot be debated, here is why.
"Abortion is wrong."
Why? "Because God says so."
But Ive never seen God? "The Bible says He is real."
How do you know the Bible is True? "Because God says so in the Bible, and the Bible also says abortion/murder is wrong."
But WHY is abortion wrong? "Because God says so."
etc, etc.
A theory that cannot be tested or falsified is a weak theory indeed. I admire that you believe it is wrong to kill humans even in the early stages of development but perhaps your reasons for that belief are misguided. Your statement certainly gives credence to Elmer's original post.
If science demonstrated without a doubt that, God does not exist (just humor me for a sec) what would be your reasons for being against abortion? If you had never heard of God, would you still believe it was wrong? Why or why not?
Except for the fact, that abortion is never explicitly prohibited anywhere within either the Old Testament or New Testament books of the Christian Bible.

Betty Bowers Explains Abortion to Everyone Else

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#24 Jul 1, 2013
HELLO wrote:
...I would hope that any woman would have enough morals and character to not abort a child/fetus at any stage of life. It is a very selfish act that can't be justified.
Perhaps you are onto something HELLO...not wanting to die during childbirth or not wanting to suffer with life-long health complications after pregnancy is very selfish of pregnant females.
Patrick

Kingsport, TN

#25 Jul 4, 2013
HELLO wrote:
Wow that's some load of doo doo coming from the democrats and no I'm not republican just acutely aware that abortion is wrong. Plain and simple. Got nothing to do with repubs or dems. God is the only one who has the right to take a life. If you are raped and get pregnant that is God's will.
You're insane but you're not the only one
LOST

Baltimore, MD

#26 Jul 5, 2013
Elmer Gantry wrote:
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Except for the fact, that abortion is never explicitly prohibited anywhere within either the Old Testament or New Testament books of the Christian Bible.
Betty Bowers Explains Abortion to Everyone Else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Cq3U09DeKpgXX
Not directly discussing abortion isn't the same thing as not prohibiting it. Internet Port wasn't directly discussed, however, there are laws that can be directly interpreted to explain God's feelings toward the situation. All we have to do to understand that there is a precedent is look for a similar situation and see how it is approached previously in the scripture. Here is your example: Jeremiah 32:35
New International Version (NIV)

35 They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.

Who is Molek (or Molech depending on your translation)? Why an ancient Ammonite god who children were sacrificed to in a particularly horrible fire ceremony. Leviticus 18:21
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21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

While I strongly believe that we are no longer under Levitical Law after the death of Christ, is it really too much of a stretch to believe that we shouldn't be killing off unborn children? I pose this question to all out there who are ok with unregulated abortion: what if one of the millions of babies aborted in this nation every year was the person who would one day cure cancer, or AIDS? Would the millions of lives saved by this individual be enough to pay for other individual's inconvenience? If there is even a possibility that this could be the case, we are at duty to keep this individual from being tossed away. Whether humanist or religious, it is our duty to make sure that there is opportunity for humanity in this world, and there are very good chances that we are snuffing this out simply because we can.

There is so much hatred between religious and non-religious that we miss the most important thing: we're all human, and we're stuck on this little blue marble. Let's make the best of it.
Patrick

Kingsport, TN

#27 Jul 5, 2013
LOST wrote:
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Not directly discussing abortion isn't the same thing as not prohibiting it. Internet Port wasn't directly discussed, however, there are laws that can be directly interpreted to explain God's feelings toward the situation. All we have to do to understand that there is a precedent is look for a similar situation and see how it is approached previously in the scripture. Here is your example: Jeremiah 32:35
New International Version (NIV)
35 They built high places for Baal in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to sacrifice their sons and daughters to Molek, though I never commanded—nor did it enter my mind—that they should do such a detestable thing and so make Judah sin.
Who is Molek (or Molech depending on your translation)? Why an ancient Ammonite god who children were sacrificed to in a particularly horrible fire ceremony. Leviticus 18:21
New International Version (NIV)
21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.
While I strongly believe that we are no longer under Levitical Law after the death of Christ, is it really too much of a stretch to believe that we shouldn't be killing off unborn children? I pose this question to all out there who are ok with unregulated abortion: what if one of the millions of babies aborted in this nation every year was the person who would one day cure cancer, or AIDS? Would the millions of lives saved by this individual be enough to pay for other individual's inconvenience? If there is even a possibility that this could be the case, we are at duty to keep this individual from being tossed away. Whether humanist or religious, it is our duty to make sure that there is opportunity for humanity in this world, and there are very good chances that we are snuffing this out simply because we can.
There is so much hatred between religious and non-religious that we miss the most important thing: we're all human, and we're stuck on this little blue marble. Let's make the best of it.
I'm NEVER wrong about the overall things. I knew that when we went into Iraq it was a total waste and I screamed it out every day. "We are going to get stuck over there, no weapons of mass destruction and a hundred thousand people will be killed". The Crawford cowboy is my mortal enemy. I honestly hope he goes directly to hell to suffer in torment for eternity. With that said, I also know that America is FINISHED. 80% of the wealth belongs to 20% of the people and every year it gets worse. They purchase republican and tea party freaks that will continue to dissolve our rights until war breaks out. Tens of millions will be killed. OX news is promoting outright war and its coming. I'm as sure as I'm sitting here. Ad ou damned well better believe I am ready......
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Kingsport, TN

#28 Jul 6, 2013
Even if Hell did exist, burning for eternity couldn't possibly be as bad as spending eternity with fundamentalists.
new

Johnson City, TN

#29 Jul 9, 2013
Cheese Puff Daddy wrote:
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No matter what ones beliefs the matter of abortion usually comes down to a woman's right and liberty to do what she pleases to do to her body versus the existence of rights for the unborn.
Personally, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with abortion. I feel bad for the women that have them, it's got to bother them the rest of their life. I wish that abortion would decline or end not because it was illegal but because people would decide to not have them.
Consider this I your the driver in your on car do you have a right to throw the passenger out the window while driving 80 miles an hour (certain death) or should you wait until the car has come to a complete stop and then abandon the passenger.
YeOlde

Kingsport, TN

#30 Jul 10, 2013
new wrote:
<quoted text> Consider this I your the driver in your on car do you have a right to throw the passenger out the window while driving 80 miles an hour (certain death) or should you wait until the car has come to a complete stop and then abandon the passenger.
That analogy makes zero sense at all. People have the right to sin under the law. I'm not saying it is right, just that it is a choice. But honestly, your analogy is pretty goofy. Should you decide to throw someone out of your car window @ 80 mph, expect to kick in the cruise control and let Jesus take the wheel.

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