Republicans aint listening to the Peo...

Republicans aint listening to the People, as per usual

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Hillbillyboy

United States

#1 Feb 12, 2014
The GOP is completely opposite what its own base wants. Instead of listening to its base voters (without whom they cannot win any election), they are listening to the liberal news media, and, of all things, political consultants, who advise them to do things that will alienate thier base beyond any resolution.

GOP rinos like Alexander and Corker are part of the gang of eight that are trying to cram the immigration reform down our throats.

(The Republican base is 100% against this)

The GOP leaders refused to stand firm in the fight to defund Obamacare. Instead, they actually attacked the few republicans rthat did take a stand.

(The Republican base wanted them to fight Obamacare whenever and wherever they found the chance. That was specifically what they were el;ected to do).

And now the Republicans are trying to take away the last of our protections for the workers, by trying to take away our 40 hour work week, so we have to work ever increasingly long hours, with little (or no) pay.

The Republican voters are certainly 100% against this.

The GOP has totally abandoned any and all conservative social agenda (like Gay Marriage and Abortion), which is exactly opposite the will of conservative voters.

In the past, the assumption has been that we have to vote republican to keep the atheist/extremist Communist (Democrats) from ruining the nation. But now,the balance has shifted. How?

The Republicans arent fighting the fights we want them to fight anymore. Instead, they are attacking us, and not the foes of conservatism.

Its like a submarine that fires a torpedo at its enemy, but the torpedo fouls up and runs back at the sub that fired it. That is the GOP of today.

So, us conservatives voters have no choice but to allow the GOP to take overwhelming defeats in this years elections. If we dont, we will be destroyed by our own party.

Sure, we will have to let the democrats take away more of our freedoms for a time. But that is the only way that we can eventually rebuild a GOP that is actually listening to the will of its base.

As it is, we have no chance to ever effectively oppose the communist/atheist extremist (Democrats), and take our country back.

So, fellow conservatives, its a case of, we have to let the dross of the current GOP be scraped away in the next elections.

That is how bad the current GOP is, that its own base is going to abandon it, even vote against it,in this years elections. After this year, the GOP will no longer be a meaningful political force.

Only then can us conservatives begin to rebuild it into a party that will listen to its base.
JCTN

Mountain City, TN

#2 Feb 12, 2014
The Republican base is dying off buddy.
Not soon Enough

Johnson City, TN

#3 Feb 12, 2014
JCTN wrote:
The Republican base is dying off buddy.
They are not dying off soon enough to suit me! But I do like that they are arguing and can't agree on how to screw the 99 percent! Remember What Would the Koch Brothers Do?
JCTN

Mountain City, TN

#4 Feb 12, 2014
Not soon Enough wrote:
<quoted text>They are not dying off soon enough to suit me! But I do like that they are arguing and can't agree on how to screw the 99 percent! Remember What Would the Koch Brothers Do?
Had they not gerimandered districts they would be out of power and a close, soon to be distant memory. Republicans actually got fewer votes than Democrats in the last elections. I agree that they are not dying off soon enough!
duhhh

Abingdon, VA

#5 Feb 12, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
The GOP is completely opposite what its own base wants. Instead of listening to its base voters (without whom they cannot win any election), they are listening to the liberal news media, and, of all things, political consultants, who advise them to do things that will alienate thier base beyond any resolution.
GOP rinos like Alexander and Corker are part of the gang of eight that are trying to cram the immigration reform down our throats.
(The Republican base is 100% against this)
The GOP leaders refused to stand firm in the fight to defund Obamacare. Instead, they actually attacked the few republicans rthat did take a stand.
(The Republican base wanted them to fight Obamacare whenever and wherever they found the chance. That was specifically what they were el;ected to do).
And now the Republicans are trying to take away the last of our protections for the workers, by trying to take away our 40 hour work week, so we have to work ever increasingly long hours, with little (or no) pay.
The Republican voters are certainly 100% against this.
The GOP has totally abandoned any and all conservative social agenda (like Gay Marriage and Abortion), which is exactly opposite the will of conservative voters.
In the past, the assumption has been that we have to vote republican to keep the atheist/extremist Communist (Democrats) from ruining the nation. But now,the balance has shifted. How?
The Republicans arent fighting the fights we want them to fight anymore. Instead, they are attacking us, and not the foes of conservatism.
Its like a submarine that fires a torpedo at its enemy, but the torpedo fouls up and runs back at the sub that fired it. That is the GOP of today.
So, us conservatives voters have no choice but to allow the GOP to take overwhelming defeats in this years elections. If we dont, we will be destroyed by our own party.
Sure, we will have to let the democrats take away more of our freedoms for a time. But that is the only way that we can eventually rebuild a GOP that is actually listening to the will of its base.
As it is, we have no chance to ever effectively oppose the communist/atheist extremist (Democrats), and take our country back.
So, fellow conservatives, its a case of, we have to let the dross of the current GOP be scraped away in the next elections.
That is how bad the current GOP is, that its own base is going to abandon it, even vote against it,in this years elections. After this year, the GOP will no longer be a meaningful political force.
Only then can us conservatives begin to rebuild it into a party that will listen to its base.
Maybe they're actually trying to do something good for the country instead of being manipulated by right wing idiots with archaic views.
GOP

Jonesborough, TN

#6 Feb 12, 2014
JCTN wrote:
The Republican base is dying off buddy.
The truth is the exact opposite is happening, you're just not paying attention. When democrats up for re-election are running away from our president, things aren't going that well. When democrats up for re-election are asking the president to stay away during the campaigning, things aren't going that well. When unemployment is high, our debt is high, our spending is high, our economy is stagnated and tax revenues are at their highest , and still the economy falters, something is wrong. Most people see this, except for you I guess.
Republican

Knoxville, TN

#7 Feb 12, 2014
duhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe they're actually trying to do something good for the country instead of being manipulated by right wing idiots with archaic views.
I agree, the leadership has listened to the silent majority. These tea party folks sure are loud and proud. The Republican party has finally moved back to center right.
The Faxx

Kingsport, TN

#8 Feb 12, 2014
Neither side is listening to or representing the true wants and needs of the citizens of our country. Both sides are hiding behind a smoke screen of trumped up agendas only to get votes, when votes don't really amount to anything more than us vs: them. It all boils down to which Big Business can pull it off. Either way in the end, they will get their profits.
No republican completely agrees with conservatism, no democrat completely agrees with liberalism. It is a shame that we the people must compromise what we really want for what is pushed upon us and will have to choose one crooked deal over the other. Somewhere between the fat they chew and the bones they choke us with, we are being manipulated into having to accept 10% of the truth and 90% of the accompanying bullshit based on what we need as opposed to what we will settle for, warts and all.
Republican

Johnson City, TN

#9 Feb 13, 2014
The Faxx wrote:
Neither side is listening to or representing the true wants and needs of the citizens of our country. Both sides are hiding behind a smoke screen of trumped up agendas only to get votes, when votes don't really amount to anything more than us vs: them. It all boils down to which Big Business can pull it off. Either way in the end, they will get their profits.
No republican completely agrees with conservatism, no democrat completely agrees with liberalism. It is a shame that we the people must compromise what we really want for what is pushed upon us and will have to choose one crooked deal over the other. Somewhere between the fat they chew and the bones they choke us with, we are being manipulated into having to accept 10% of the truth and 90% of the accompanying bullshit based on what we need as opposed to what we will settle for, warts and all.
We the people includes everybody and their beliefs. Do not speak for we the people unless you are voted in as a representative of we the people.
righto

Abingdon, VA

#10 Feb 13, 2014
The Faxx wrote:
Neither side is listening to or representing the true wants and needs of the citizens of our country. Both sides are hiding behind a smoke screen of trumped up agendas only to get votes, when votes don't really amount to anything more than us vs: them. It all boils down to which Big Business can pull it off. Either way in the end, they will get their profits.
No republican completely agrees with conservatism, no democrat completely agrees with liberalism. It is a shame that we the people must compromise what we really want for what is pushed upon us and will have to choose one crooked deal over the other. Somewhere between the fat they chew and the bones they choke us with, we are being manipulated into having to accept 10% of the truth and 90% of the accompanying bullshit based on what we need as opposed to what we will settle for, warts and all.
This pretty much sums it up...along with whoever has the most money wins!
Mayson Cutter

Since: May 12

Hankel Hollar

#11 Feb 13, 2014
The Faxx wrote:
Neither side is listening to or representing the true wants and needs of the citizens of our country. Both sides are hiding behind a smoke screen of trumped up agendas only to get votes, when votes don't really amount to anything more than us vs: them. It all boils down to which Big Business can pull it off. Either way in the end, they will get their profits.
No republican completely agrees with conservatism, no democrat completely agrees with liberalism. It is a shame that we the people must compromise what we really want for what is pushed upon us and will have to choose one crooked deal over the other. Somewhere between the fat they chew and the bones they choke us with, we are being manipulated into having to accept 10% of the truth and 90% of the accompanying bullshit based on what we need as opposed to what we will settle for, warts and all.
You are right to a point. I'm not a fan of Repubs, but I do believe if murders, and rapists could vote, the Demoturds would be setting them free and kissing their ass. It's a sorry damn world we live in, and getting worse all the time.
righto

Abingdon, VA

#12 Feb 13, 2014
Mayson Cutter wrote:
<quoted text> You are right to a point. I'm not a fan of Repubs, but I do believe if murders, and rapists could vote, the Demoturds would be setting them free and kissing their ass. It's a sorry damn world we live in, and getting worse all the time.
That just shows how blind you are to what's actually going on.
The Faxx

Kingsport, TN

#13 Feb 13, 2014
Republican wrote:
<quoted text> We the people includes everybody and their beliefs. Do not speak for we the people unless you are voted in as a representative of we the people.
I think you need to read my post again, then settle back and think a while before you go rabid just to disagree. You are trying to substitute "me the person" for "we the people".
righto

Abingdon, VA

#14 Feb 13, 2014
Republican wrote:
<quoted text> We the people includes everybody and their beliefs. Do not speak for we the people unless you are voted in as a representative of we the people.
Since when do our elected representatives actually speak for us and not their own self interests or party?
Hillbillyboy

United States

#15 Feb 13, 2014
JCTN wrote:
The Republican base is dying off buddy.
Um, No. Not at all.

That is the lie that the Liberal left uses. Its an old debating trick called "an appeal to authority", in which case a deceptive debator often tries to make the minority view appear to be the majority view, in an attempt to sway low IQ people to think that the "Everybody Knows" mentality is on thier side, when it is actually not.

The Conservative political movement is not dead, just betrasyed so that they have no voice.

In the 2012 elections, for example, we have a choice between Obama, and an Obama clone that tried to look more like Obama that Obama did himself.

Romney was the idiot that wrote and enacted the infamous "Romney Care" that the even more unpopular "Obamacare" was based on.

And Romney came off as extremely insincere, so that Republican voters were identifying him as just another fake smile that would betray them just as soon as he took office. We saw that by his dogmatic sticking to his rehearsed and scripted, Politically Correct spin lines in debates.

Whenever he was presented with a question that he hadnt rehearsed for, he tried to lead the answer in a circle back to some reheased ground, even if it didnt make sense.

And then we saw the idiot Paul Ryan come out of the woodwork and start talking about cutting granny socisal security check (while Congress gets raises).

And all the while, there was no real addressing of the true conservative agendas that the conservatives really wanted talked about.

So, conservative voters didnt have anybody to vote for in 2012, becasuse Romney was just another Republican Rino that was going to sell conservatives down the road. So, republicans just didnt get excited over supporting him.

It was worse in 2008, when John McCain was running. I liked Sarah Palin, but John McCain...no way. I didnt even bother to vote that day, because there wasnt anybody running worth voting for.

So, the GOP base isnt dying. Far from it. But they are rejecting the dross that the GOP sends out for candidates.

Just like we will in this years elections.

The Republicans in the GOP refused to stand up and fight agaisnt Obamacare, and have given us cave in after cave in.

So, this fall, we are going to use the democrats to oust some unpopular GOP rinos. Thats because it is so hard to unseat an incumbent Rino, like Alexander or Mitch McConnel. The only way to get them out of office is to elect a democrat.

And no doubt, the leftist news media will be there to say..."Hey, conservatism is dying", when it wont be the case at all.

But of course, the real deal is that they are all bought off anyway.

Its just a PR ping pong show to smoke screen the tremendous sell out opperation of crooked politicians selling us out to corporate lobbyist, with betrayal laws such as NAFTA, the endless "Food Safety Laws", which add thousands of pages of mandatory and unesessary testing, paperwork, and ridiculous regulation on the backs of small farmers and small agro producers that (miraculously) the large agro producers and large agro farms are exempted from.

And now the rather infamous "Immigration reform" laws that nobody much wants (and our Senators Alexander and Corker are pushing so hard), with its endless pork agenda for corporate lobbyist, and affirmative action that will put even more American citizens out of work.

Conservatives all over America are against this bill, but nobody in the GOP is listening to us. And this attitude is exactly why the conservsatives are allowing the GOP to loose election after election.

But, that is just politics in modern America.
Good

United States

#16 Feb 20, 2014
It's good to listen
JCTN

Mountain City, TN

#17 Feb 21, 2014
Hillbillyboy wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, No. Not at all.
That is the lie that the Liberal left uses. Its an old debating trick called "an appeal to authority", in which case a deceptive debator often tries to make the minority view appear to be the majority view, in an attempt to sway low IQ people to think that the "Everybody Knows" mentality is on thier side, when it is actually not.
The Conservative political movement is not dead, just betrasyed so that they have no voice.
In the 2012 elections, for example, we have a choice between Obama, and an Obama clone that tried to look more like Obama that Obama did himself.
Romney was the idiot that wrote and enacted the infamous "Romney Care" that the even more unpopular "Obamacare" was based on.
And Romney came off as extremely insincere, so that Republican voters were identifying him as just another fake smile that would betray them just as soon as he took office. We saw that by his dogmatic sticking to his rehearsed and scripted, Politically Correct spin lines in debates.
Whenever he was presented with a question that he hadnt rehearsed for, he tried to lead the answer in a circle back to some reheased ground, even if it didnt make sense.
And then we saw the idiot Paul Ryan come out of the woodwork and start talking about cutting granny socisal security check (while Congress gets raises).
And all the while, there was no real addressing of the true conservative agendas that the conservatives really wanted talked about.
So, conservative voters didnt have anybody to vote for in 2012, becasuse Romney was just another Republican Rino that was going to sell conservatives down the road. So, republicans just didnt get excited over supporting him.
It was worse in 2008, when John McCain was running. I liked Sarah Palin, but John McCain...no way. I didnt even bother to vote that day, because there wasnt anybody running worth voting for.
So, the GOP base isnt dying. Far from it. But they are rejecting the dross that the GOP sends out for candidates.
Just like we will in this years elections.
The Republicans in the GOP refused to stand up and fight agaisnt Obamacare, and have given us cave in after cave in.
So, this fall, we are going to use the democrats to oust some unpopular GOP rinos. Thats because it is so hard to unseat an incumbent Rino, like Alexander or Mitch McConnel. The only way to get them out of office is to elect a democrat.
And no doubt, the leftist news media will be there to say..."Hey, conservatism is dying", when it wont be the case at all.
But of course, the real deal is that they are all bought off anyway.
Its just a PR ping pong show to smoke screen the tremendous sell out opperation of crooked politicians selling us out to corporate lobbyist, with betrayal laws such as NAFTA, the endless "Food Safety Laws", which add thousands of pages of mandatory and unesessary testing, paperwork, and ridiculous regulation on the backs of small farmers and small agro producers that (miraculously) the large agro producers and large agro farms are exempted from.
And now the rather infamous "Immigration reform" laws that nobody much wants (and our Senators Alexander and Corker are pushing so hard), with its endless pork agenda for corporate lobbyist, and affirmative action that will put even more American citizens out of work.
Conservatives all over America are against this bill, but nobody in the GOP is listening to us. And this attitude is exactly why the conservsatives are allowing the GOP to loose election after election.
But, that is just politics in modern America.
. If you look at the demographic breakdown of the 2012 Presidential election you will see that Romney lost in every category except white males.
teehee

Abingdon, VA

#18 Feb 21, 2014
JCTN wrote:
<quoted text>. If you look at the demographic breakdown of the 2012 Presidential election you will see that Romney lost in every category except white males.
Now durn't ya'll go trying to throw that thar Hillbilly all that there logik...it will just confuse that boy.
Clinton

United States

#19 Feb 26, 2014
Just another example of why we must vote democrat
Bush

United States

#20 Feb 26, 2014
This is untrue and just trying to make us sound bad. Republicans are for the people.

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