Measure to Legalize Medical Marijuana...

Measure to Legalize Medical Marijuana in TN Fails

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Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#1 Apr 5, 2012
Another attempt by pro-dopers to backdoor marijuana legalization was sniffed out by the politicians. I heard what turned the politicians against the measure is that the lobbyists kept falling asleep during their arguments, and when they were awake, the politicians couldn't hear their argument for the rustling of the Doritos bags.

Go get your Marinol prescriptions and quit pretending you give a crap about anybody but yourselves.
Joe

United States

#2 Apr 5, 2012
like pot being illegal has ever stopped anyone who wanted to use it from using it.....lmao.

We got morons around here on there 10th dwi, a little pot smoking is the least of our local judicial problems
Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#3 Apr 5, 2012
Joe wrote:
like pot being illegal has ever stopped anyone who wanted to use it from using it.....lmao.
We got morons around here on there 10th dwi, a little pot smoking is the least of our local judicial problems
Haven't you heard? Our prisons are full of "innocent" pot smokers.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#4 Apr 6, 2012
Survivorman wrote:
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Haven't you heard? Our prisons are full of "innocent" pot smokers.
Have you not heard? The good citizen tax payers are the people who pay for the ridiculousness to house "yes, innocent" pot smokers. Your "opinion" is costing tax paying citizens more & more money daily, & let's not forget the lives of the law enforcement officials taken daily.
Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#5 Apr 6, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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Have you not heard? The good citizen tax payers are the people who pay for the ridiculousness to house "yes, innocent" pot smokers. Your "opinion" is costing tax paying citizens more & more money daily, & let's not forget the lives of the law enforcement officials taken daily.
How are law enforcement officials losing their lives? I thought marijuana smokers were pacifists. You pro-dopers can't even keep your propaganda straight.

And thank you for your belief that my opinion carries such great weight, but in all truthfulness, I think it so much more than my opinion that keeps marijuana from being legalized. Funny how you guys blame it on backwards ass, ignorant, bible-thumpin' conservatives, but you never really look to see exactly who it is that is voting against legalization. You would be astounded.

And as for my tax monies, I'd much rather see them go for incarceration than for rising medical costs, rising insurance costs, rehab programs, and all the other social welfare programs for those of you too strung out or just too lazy to get a job because of your "need" for marijuana.
Jared

Johnson City, TN

#6 Apr 6, 2012
Survivorman wrote:
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Haven't you heard? Our prisons are full of "innocent" pot smokers.
853,838 people were arrested for marijuana related charges in 2010. 88%(750,591) of said people were arrested for simple possession alone.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#7 Apr 6, 2012
Survivorman wrote:
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How are law enforcement officials losing their lives? I thought marijuana smokers were pacifists. You pro-dopers can't even keep your propaganda straight.
And thank you for your belief that my opinion carries such great weight, but in all truthfulness, I think it so much more than my opinion that keeps marijuana from being legalized. Funny how you guys blame it on backwards ass, ignorant, bible-thumpin' conservatives, but you never really look to see exactly who it is that is voting against legalization. You would be astounded.
And as for my tax monies, I'd much rather see them go for incarceration than for rising medical costs, rising insurance costs, rehab programs, and all the other social welfare programs for those of you too strung out or just too lazy to get a job because of your "need" for marijuana.
How are law enforcement officials losing their lives? Have you ever heard of The War on Drugs you mental midget? There is no "need" for marijuana as it is not addictive. I am not sure why I even replied, I think you are trolling because your statements are childish & silly. There is no way to get "strung out" on marijuana for one fact. There are soooo many professional people who smoke daily & would probably blow your simple mind. I also have many friends on the police force who would like to see marijuana become legal, because it is basically a waist of their time & no need to risk lives over. I could sit here & throw out fact after fact in your face, but it is useless. You are simply attempting to get emotions high & bring people into conflict with you. I know that I am much more educated than you & probably smarter, so I will not waste anymore of my time with your childishness. If you want to discuss or debate facts then I am all in, but debates are not won or lost based on simple minded opinions or beliefs. Good day.
Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#8 Apr 6, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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How are law enforcement officials losing their lives? Have you ever heard of The War on Drugs you mental midget? There is no "need" for marijuana as it is not addictive. I am not sure why I even replied, I think you are trolling because your statements are childish & silly. There is no way to get "strung out" on marijuana for one fact. There are soooo many professional people who smoke daily & would probably blow your simple mind. I also have many friends on the police force who would like to see marijuana become legal, because it is basically a waist of their time & no need to risk lives over. I could sit here & throw out fact after fact in your face, but it is useless. You are simply attempting to get emotions high & bring people into conflict with you. I know that I am much more educated than you & probably smarter, so I will not waste anymore of my time with your childishness. If you want to discuss or debate facts then I am all in, but debates are not won or lost based on simple minded opinions or beliefs. Good day.
You are nowhere close to being smarter than me. You have no original thoughts and you rely on propaganda as the basis of your argument. You don't even have the sense to realize the War on Drugs is plural, meaning the battle against ALL drugs. Either marijuana users are violent and dangerous or they're not. You pro-dopers can't have it both ways....make up your minds.

And please don't waste my time responding unless you have something original to bring to the plate. Just the mere fact that you believe everyone who disagrees with your position is "childish, silly, and simple-minded" is indicative of your intelligence...or lack thereof. Maybe if you opened your mind YOU might learn something of value.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#9 Apr 6, 2012
O.K. Survivorman, I will be leaving ETSU main campus this evening at 9:00 p.m., as I have an evening class to teach in Sam Wilson Hall. If you would like to meet & debate the issue face to face, please reply back & we will meet on campus anywhere you like to debate. Why ETSU campus? Aside from convenience for me, there is the safety issue of not knowing you personally. I would love for you to attempt to prove that you are smarter than me, as well as bring some substance to the table with your online rant. I do not smoke marijuana, but I am totally for legalization of it. There is your topic, so the ball is now in your court. I just want to know why people hate it so bad & what real harm marijuana causes on human beings. I have done much research on the topic & would like for you to add to it & educate me (since you say that you can indeed educate me). If you cannot meet this evening, then let's work out a safe & secure & public place to discuss the issue. I will be overly prepared for this discussion, as I hope you will bring the same respect in preparedness.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#10 Apr 6, 2012
I tell you what Survivorman, why don't we just get a think group together with people from both sides & compare research while we debate the topic? I have many contacts who have your same belief, but they do have better arguments to back up his/her beliefs than you I must state. Honestly, it is educational for both sides & a lot of good comes out of these debates. Just let me know ASAP, class starts at 6:00 p.m..
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#11 Apr 6, 2012
O.K. Survivorman, I thought that I was bringing something original to the table for you & still wait for your reply. I will check again at 7:30 p.m. break & look for a response.
Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#12 Apr 6, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
O.K. Survivorman, I thought that I was bringing something original to the table for you & still wait for your reply. I will check again at 7:30 p.m. break & look for a response.
Slow down, TP, I only get on this site ever so often. But, you have come up with an excellent idea...finally. I'll find you next Friday after your class and we'll sit down and work out the details. Who knows, maybe this could turn into an active group that meets regularly and debates other topics as well. And don't worry about my preparedness for the topic; I was tasked with debating my view on legalization with others in my field from across the US and from 4 different countries. I can assure you I am knowledgeable in the topic.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#13 Apr 7, 2012
Forgot to update last night: Survivorman, just keep me updated as I don't spend a lot of time on this site either. I just got excited last evening about the debate. I will check off & on throughout the week & if you are in, then I will attempt to get minds for the think tank from all sides on the view. This could be interesting & educational if done correctly.

Since: Feb 12

United States

#14 Apr 8, 2012
Survivorman wrote:
<quoted text>How are law enforcement officials losing their lives? I thought marijuana smokers were pacifists. You pro-dopers can't even keep your propaganda straight.

And thank you for your belief that my opinion carries such great weight, but in all truthfulness, I think it so much more than my opinion that keeps marijuana from being legalized. Funny how you guys blame it on backwards ass, ignorant, bible-thumpin' conservatives, but you never really look to see exactly who it is that is voting against legalization. You would be astounded.

And as for my tax monies, I'd much rather see them go for incarceration than for rising medical costs, rising insurance costs, rehab programs, and all the other social welfare programs for those of you too strung out or just too lazy to get a job because of your "need" for marijuana.
Pseudo-intelligence at its best.:)

Since: Feb 12

United States

#15 Apr 8, 2012
Survivorman wrote:
<quoted text>You are nowhere close to being smarter than me. You have no original thoughts and you rely on propaganda as the basis of your argument. You don't even have the sense to realize the War on Drugs is plural, meaning the battle against ALL drugs. Either marijuana users are violent and dangerous or they're not. You pro-dopers can't have it both ways....make up your minds.

And please don't waste my time responding unless you have something original to bring to the plate. Just the mere fact that you believe everyone who disagrees with your position is "childish, silly, and simple-minded" is indicative of your intelligence...or lack thereof. Maybe if you opened your mind YOU might learn something of value.
And again i say. Perfect example of pseudo-intelligence :)
fourtwenty

Kingsport, TN

#16 Apr 9, 2012
The war on drugs is nothing but crap. It doesnt matter what anybody says or does, if people want to get high they are going to find a way. As far as good ole green goes, I would much rather see it legal than all the liquor stores. Look at all the problems drinking causes. Pot is natural and medicinal. I have been smoking it for years and it does wonders for my anxiety.I have never found myself dope sick or whatever if I go a while without smoking. A friend of mine just went through breast cancer treatments and the only way she could eat anything during them was if she smoked a lil weed first. Its a proven fact marijuana helps many people who are fighting cancer and other illnesses. The only reason I think it is not legal is because it is almost impossible to tax and they are making so much money off busting people. All in all, you can all argue and debate in here all day long, bottom line is what i already said,,,if peeps wants to get high, they will find a way. It will never stop.
Yesca

Johnson City, TN

#17 Apr 9, 2012
fourtwenty wrote:
The war on drugs is nothing but crap. It doesnt matter what anybody says or does, if people want to get high they are going to find a way. As far as good ole green goes, I would much rather see it legal than all the liquor stores. Look at all the problems drinking causes. Pot is natural and medicinal. I have been smoking it for years and it does wonders for my anxiety.I have never found myself dope sick or whatever if I go a while without smoking. A friend of mine just went through breast cancer treatments and the only way she could eat anything during them was if she smoked a lil weed first. Its a proven fact marijuana helps many people who are fighting cancer and other illnesses. The only reason I think it is not legal is because it is almost impossible to tax and they are making so much money off busting people. All in all, you can all argue and debate in here all day long, bottom line is what i already said,,,if peeps wants to get high, they will find a way. It will never stop.
You are correct, the more you deny something the people want the more they will want it. Medical marijuana sounds good on the first look, but I can see problems just like the black market Lortab business. People fake injury and sell the pills. I recommend complete legalization of marijuana. Everybody wins: no more Colombian drug cartels focusing on it, no more need for fake pot, and a great source of economic gain.
Survivorman

Johnson City, TN

#18 Apr 11, 2012
BALipps wrote:
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And again i say. Perfect example of pseudo-intelligence :)
Thanks for your help; you would be exhibit A in my argument. It's amazing how some can say so much by saying so little.
Taxpayer

Johnson City, TN

#19 Apr 13, 2012
Hey Survivorman, are you up for the debate this evening on ETSU campus? Actual debate, with intelligent facts & sources and none of this childish bickering and name calling. I just want to see if you are anywhere near as intelligent as you think you are. I would state that you have said so little by saying so much. Obviously, just my opinion and I am open minded enough to allow you to prove me wrong.
TCN64

Kingsport, TN

#20 Apr 13, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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Have you not heard? The good citizen tax payers are the people who pay for the ridiculousness to house "yes, innocent" pot smokers. Your "opinion" is costing tax paying citizens more & more money daily, & let's not forget the lives of the law enforcement officials taken daily.
may i ask just what are you trying to say?... are you saying that pot smokers kill cops?

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