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Homer, GA

#19150 Jul 21, 2013
please wrote:
<quoted text>
And voters just like you keep electing them year after year, no damn matter the party or the political leaning. Majority rules and the majority just ain't to bright. They throw voters a social issue bone and the feeding frenzy begins.
Voter are always pissed off at somebody or over some issue, the big picture eludes them. Voters get exactly what they deserve, argue that, please.

Well hey Ugly Eve.
Why would I argue against the very things I post and which you have verified.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19151 Jul 21, 2013
Why wrote:
<quoted text>You are a real nut case!

You've been pushing this BS so long, it's now time to call you on it.

"The enormous undertaking of moving the billions began in the heavily guarded Federal Reserve compound on 100 Orchard Street in East Rutherford, NJ. There, carefully screened employees loaded pallets of cash into tractor-trailers for their journey down I-95 toward Washington, DC. The money came from an account held at the New York Fed called the “Development Fund for Iraq” which was made up of billions of dollars in Saddam Hussein’s financial assets that had been frozen under various US and global sanctions regimes. They weren’t taxpayer dollars, but the US government was responsible for making sure they got where they were going."
Nice try.

More World Net Daily silliness.

There weren't billions if dollars in assets to be seized.

Remember we had already taken all the money, instituted an embargo, and prevented Hussein from selling oil for years before the invasion so he had no ability to generate billions and if he did, he sure didn't send them to our banks.

Nice try though.
Why

Homer, GA

#19152 Jul 21, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Here is an article that will make you furious. Food stamps being used to feed the world.
Perhaps much the food stamp fraud would end if the states went back to giving out commodities such as flour, canned meat, peanut butter, etc instead of a EBT card. It worked for decades, and people got of the commodities as soon as they could. They didn't starve but it sure wasn't as nice as going to the store and buying some nice steaks as they do now. It was much less expensive to feed the people that drew these commodities which gives the taxpayers a good break. It gave people an incentive to get off welfare and go to work.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/it_on_y...

EBT cards have become a black market commodity in the hispanic and black communities.





Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19153 Jul 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>Bless your heart.
Why thanks.

Bless yours too.

Hopefully we can all work to gather to keep from helping our fellow Americans in need.

Hey.... Maybe the Right Wingers here could demand the subsidized and free money just received here in Union County to replace water lines could be sent to Detroit.

They don't mind sharing with us.

Oh wait ... They're our brothers and sisters under God, in our indivisible nations.

Wait.... Did I just use the words from the Pledge of Allegiance, "One nation, indivisible", in a post to an author who uses the name "Robert E. Lee" - the guy who killed 625,000 Americans trying to divide our nation ?

Now that's irony.


Relax - just poking fun.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19154 Jul 21, 2013
please wrote:
<quoted text>And voters just like you keep electing them year after year, no damn matter the party or the political leaning. Majority rules and the majority just ain't to bright. They throw voters a social issue bone and the feeding frenzy begins.

Voter are always pissed off at somebody or over some issue, the big picture eludes them. Voters get exactly what they deserve, argue that, please.
Great post.

The definition of insanity - electing the same politicians from the same parties over and over, under the same circumstances, and expecting a different result.

The Republicans demand we destroy democracy and Democrats pretend they can't stop 'em, and they all cash the checks from the corporations and the überrich.
Why

Homer, GA

#19155 Jul 21, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
More World Net Daily silliness.
There weren't billions if dollars in assets to be seized.
Remember we had already taken all the money, instituted an embargo, and prevented Hussein from selling oil for years before the invasion so he had no ability to generate billions and if he did, he sure didn't send them to our banks.
Nice try though.

One last attempt to a dumb bunny. After this I want to talk to your dog.

The info came from libroid CNBC, here's the link. Read all 3 pages.

The seizures occurred over time.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/45031100

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19156 Jul 21, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
They both pay the same S.S. percentage rate of 6.8% up to the $110,00
Cap. Yes, the rich man will have a higher lifetime wage than the poor man. The rich man will have paid 6.8% of $110,000 per year, where the poorer man will have maybe paid 6.8% of a $50,000 wage per year. There is a maximum amount of a S.S. retirement payment no matter how much money the rich man makes. The rich man would pay more into the fund and get a somewhat larger check than the poor man, as the poor man didn't pay that much into the S.S. fund.
SSI, as a tax, and as a percentage of income, the poor guy pays pays a larger percentage of his income, than the rich guy, towards this tax. The poor guy pays a larger percentage of his income to the nobamacare taxes, than the rich guy. The poor guy, pays a larger percentage of his income for excise taxes, than the rich guy. The "benefits" are not relevant here, though they do not justify the disproportionate tax assessments.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19157 Jul 21, 2013
know wrote:
<quoted text>
I was using it in the context of dealing with a complete moron, YOU, just so you know.
Now, why would you say that I am a moron?
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#19158 Jul 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, salt water all the way, Pacific to the Gulf.
yeah, I am sure ships will be lining up make the two week, 1200 mi. trip on our canal when they could just use the one in Panama at a fraction of the cost and time. But maybe you were planning on bombing it into oblivion.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19159 Jul 21, 2013
please wrote:
<quoted text>
Wake up idiot, bitching all the time. SSI is for the poor and the middle class. The rich could give a damn, but it they paid nothing and got nothing you would also bitch about that. Are you the same man who not so long ago posted about closing up his business and sending his employees down the road. If you live you are the winner in SSI, just like any insurance, if you don't it was just another bad bet. And a bet is all any insurance is, and make no mistake, SSI is insurance, its not a grant or a damn guarantee. I am so feed up with stupid people who think they are owed something, it is just sickening. This tread is the honey hole of the stupid out of touch with reality who believe that it ain't my fault its ALWAYS somebody else's. And you nuts can and do vote, no wonder we are in such a shape. Blame someone other than yourself, or the people that you voted for, or the fact that you are in the minority. You want to change the Constitution to minority rule, have at it, please.
Great man that you are, come on bitch some more. Robert E. Lee is flipping up and down in his grave knowing that you are defaming his good name. Sorry for the rant, its just so scary to actually see in print in their own words what some people believe! Your failure is YOUR FAULT, nobody else's.
You couldn't be more off base, and you couldn't be more wrong about me. You have absolutely no consistency to any of your arguments, you have no guts to vote against the status quo, and I was actually sticking up for the little guy with my posts on our disproportionate tax system, but that went way over your head, straight up the hill to Suches, and you just sat and wondered WTF just happened.

By the way, I did close my largest business, sold the assets to the employees, who now own, manage, and benefit from it, very successful, and boy do they bitch about taxes, overhead, nobamacare, liability insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, costs of advertising, marketing, and client retention. Most of all though, they bitch about ignorant folk like you, who have no clue about what is really happening.

Here is some advice for you, pay attention to IO's dog.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19160 Jul 21, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, I am sure ships will be lining up make the two week, 1200 mi. trip on our canal when they could just use the one in Panama at a fraction of the cost and time. But maybe you were planning on bombing it into oblivion.
No, we could, and most likely would, put the Panama Canal out of business. You need to warm up to the idea, even if it wasn't yours.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19161 Jul 21, 2013
Typical Right Wing Wacko logic.

America's government and it's lenders can help loan $120 Billion Dollars to Arab Muslims- and that's just wonderful.

Not a single whine or complaint from our Right Wing friends.

But Ameica's government and it's lenders come to the aid of our fellow Americans and and American city - and the world is coming to an end.

Why do Right Wingers love to bankrupt America for their Arab Muslim friends, but hate spending a dime to help our own people and country ?

Why do Right Wingers fight long and hard to assure Arab Muslims don't have to repay their debts to
us and other governments? but scream bloody murder if Americans seek the tiniest but of debt relief.

Damn... Those Right Wing Wackos must pray to Allah 5 times a day.

December 20, 2003
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON

... Q: How much does Iraq owe?

A: That figure is not known precisely but generally is considered to be more than $120 billion, not counting an additional $200 billion in war reparations. Of the $120 billion, Iraq owes $40 billion to the 19-nation Paris Club, which includes the United States, France, Germany, Japan and Russia.

Q: How did Iraq accumulate such a large debt?

A: Most of the money went to the military. Saddam ordered the invasion of Iran in 1980, fought an eight-year war with Iraq's neighbor.

In addition, Iraq was a good client for private arms merchants. "It was probably a pretty good moneymaking venture," said Bathsheba Crocker of the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington.

Q: What is the Bush administration's position on the debt now?

A: Administration officials argue that major debt relief is needed for Iraq's economy to get back on its feet.

The issue is also highly politicized with countries that opposed the war, such as Germany and France, initially expressing doubt about high levels of debt forgiveness.

President Bush sent a special envoy, former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, to Europe and Russia last week to make his case, and France and Germany agreed that Iraq needs debt relief. Russia, the largest creditor, said it was willing to start negotiations.

Q: Is Iraq's entire debt likely to be forgiven? Or could Iraq's successor governments be forced to pay back all the money Saddam's Iraq owed?

A: Neither scenario is likely. For all its potential oil wealth, Iraq could not be expected to pay back its full debt. What's more likely, analysts say, is that creditor nations will devise a formula in which a significant portion is forgiven and the rest is restructured with a realistic payment schedule based on Iraq's economic prospects.

Gotta love America's Right Wing Wacko - they never say a word when America Tax Dollars go to support Arab Muslims - but don't you dare try to help their fellow Americans.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19162 Jul 21, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why thanks.
Bless yours too.
Hopefully we can all work to gather to keep from helping our fellow Americans in need.
Hey.... Maybe the Right Wingers here could demand the subsidized and free money just received here in Union County to replace water lines could be sent to Detroit.
They don't mind sharing with us.
Oh wait ... They're our brothers and sisters under God, in our indivisible nations.
Wait.... Did I just use the words from the Pledge of Allegiance, "One nation, indivisible", in a post to an author who uses the name "Robert E. Lee" - the guy who killed 625,000 Americans trying to divide our nation ?
Now that's irony.
Relax - just poking fun.
Robert Edward Lee, is my given name. General, an earned title, or the fun part, you decide for yourself. The Pledge of Allegiance, did not exist during the 1860's, and no state was under any obligation to remain a part of the USA. The rest of your post, as usual, a canned response. Take care of your dog, black labs are a great breed.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19163 Jul 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>You couldn't be more off base, and you couldn't be more wrong about me. You have absolutely no consistency to any of your arguments, you have no guts to vote against the status quo, and I was actually sticking up for the little guy with my posts on our disproportionate tax system, but that went way over your head, straight up the hill to Suches, and you just sat and wondered WTF just happened.

By the way, I did close my largest business, sold the assets to the employees, who now own, manage, and benefit from it, very successful, and boy do they bitch about taxes, overhead, nobamacare, liability insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, costs of advertising, marketing, and client retention. Most of all though, they bitch about ignorant folk like you, who have no clue about what is really happening.

Here is some advice for you, pay attention to IO's dog.
Good advice.

If my Lab could get drunk enough, he wouldn't be bothered by hypocritical Right Winger, who loves to bankrupt the country to send money to Arab Muslim countries, but are "outraged" whenever our government tries to help Americans.

I have him a beer so that he could try to grasp the lunacy of Right Wing Wacko "logic", but it only made him sleepy.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19164 Jul 21, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
Typical Right Wing Wacko logic.

America's government and it's lenders can help loan $120 Billion Dollars to Arab Muslims- and that's just wonderful.

Not a single whine or complaint from our Right Wing friends.

But Ameica's government and it's lenders come to the aid of our fellow Americans and and American city - and the world is coming to an end.

Why do Right Wingers love to bankrupt America for their Arab Muslim friends, but hate spending a dime to help our own people and country ?

Why do Right Wingers fight long and hard to assure Arab Muslims don't have to repay their debts to
us and other governments? but scream bloody murder if Americans seek the tiniest but of debt relief.

Damn... Those Right Wing Wackos must pray to Allah 5 times a day.

December 20, 2003
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON

... Q: How much does Iraq owe?

A: That figure is not known precisely but generally is considered to be more than $120 billion, not counting an additional $200 billion in war reparations. Of the $120 billion, Iraq owes $40 billion to the 19-nation Paris Club, which includes the United States, France, Germany, Japan and Russia.

Q: How did Iraq accumulate such a large debt?

A: Most of the money went to the military. Saddam ordered the invasion of Iran in 1980, fought an eight-year war with Iraq's neighbor.

In addition, Iraq was a good client for private arms merchants. "It was probably a pretty good moneymaking venture," said Bathsheba Crocker of the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington.

Q: What is the Bush administration's position on the debt now?

A: Administration officials argue that major debt relief is needed for Iraq's economy to get back on its feet.

The issue is also highly politicized with countries that opposed the war, such as Germany and France, initially expressing doubt about high levels of debt forgiveness.

President Bush sent a special envoy, former Secretary of State James A. Baker III, to Europe and Russia last week to make his case, and France and Germany agreed that Iraq needs debt relief. Russia, the largest creditor, said it was willing to start negotiations.

Q: Is Iraq's entire debt likely to be forgiven? Or could Iraq's successor governments be forced to pay back all the money Saddam's Iraq owed?

A: Neither scenario is likely. For all its potential oil wealth, Iraq could not be expected to pay back its full debt. What's more likely, analysts say, is that creditor nations will devise a formula in which a significant portion is forgiven and the rest is restructured with a realistic payment schedule based on Iraq's economic prospects.

Gotta love America's Right Wing Wacko - they never say a word when America Tax Dollars go to support Arab Muslims - but don't you dare try to help their fellow Americans.
Thanks Right Wingers.

Making sure your Arab Muslim buddies get debt relief,( we don't need the money do we),
but an American city ask for debt relief - no damn way.
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#19165 Jul 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>Robert Edward Lee, is my given name. General, an earned title, or the fun part, you decide for yourself. The Pledge of Allegiance, did not exist during the 1860's, and no state was under any obligation to remain a part of the USA. The rest of your post, as usual, a canned response. Take care of your dog, black labs are a great breed.
Poking fun about name - I named my son is named after Col. Turner Ashby, The Black Knight of the Confederacy, and donate regularly to Turner Ashby High School;

Good point about the Pledge;

Silly point about states having the right to say sayonara - a "United States" that can be disassembled any Tuesday afternoon is not "united" in any practical sense. They should have named it the "Temporarily United Until Further Notice" States of America;

Agreed Black Labs are a great breed - perfect with kids, faithful, and only eat the wife's shoes.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19166 Jul 21, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
<quoted text>
SSI, as a tax, and as a percentage of income, the poor guy pays pays a larger percentage of his income, than the rich guy, towards this tax. The poor guy pays a larger percentage of his income to the nobamacare taxes, than the rich guy. The poor guy, pays a larger percentage of his income for excise taxes, than the rich guy. The "benefits" are not relevant here, though they do not justify the disproportionate tax assessments.

You forget that 48% of the people pay no income taxes. The rich guy pays huge excise taxes on jewelry, communications and expensive items such as yachts which a poor man can't afford. He also pays huge amounts of property taxes on possibly several expense homes and taxes on his expensive cars. He pays large amounts of taxes on airplane tickets and vacations. He probably donates his puny S.S. checks to a charity as he doesn't need them. He would have to pay taxes on his S.S. checks if he didn't donate them. We haven't even mentioned the income taxes that would be much higher than a poorer mans, that is if the poorer man paid any at all.
Perhaps you would like to see no cap at all put on S.S payouts per year.You would let the rich man pay 6.8% on all his salary, lets just say 2 million dollars a year, and receive a $3,400 a month for the $136,000 he put in every year till he hit 70 years old. He would have put in $5,440,000 into Social Security over a 40 year work period. He would get a $3,400 taxable check each month till he dies. That sounds fair.
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#19167 Jul 21, 2013
Why wrote:
<quoted text>
Basically the politicians and public employees lived high on the hog off taxpayers, gouged every dollar they could and promised money that did not exist, and put off any fixes that needed to be done year after year after year.
Brilliant post. I have never been to detroit, but I will bet that there are two issues that have led to bankruptcy= 1. somebody has been stealing money under the table, somewhere, somehow, someway and 2. They are flowing water down the drain, somewhere, somehow and someway.
I guess the corporate execs will need to fly to washington again with tin cups and ask for another handout, because they are too big to fail.
One more guess, what kind of tax breaks did those car companies get to stay in Detroit?

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19168 Jul 21, 2013
I also didn't even figure in the other half of the Social Security tax that is paid by the employer. That would make the amount of money put into the rich mans S.S. account a total of $10,880,000.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Draketown, GA

#19169 Jul 21, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
I also didn't even figure in the other half of the Social Security tax that is paid by the employer. That would make the amount of money put into the rich mans S.S. account a total of $10,880,000.
Guy makes $110K/year, pays $7K in SSI tax

Guy makes $1billion/year, pays $7k in SSI tax.

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