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Mount Airy, GA

#15958 Jun 20, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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It's understandable that you find these links disconcerting since they show that Darrell Issa is cherry picking what testimony is being released.
It's predictable that you would avoid addressing that issue since this scandal has been nailed down from the very beginning.
Lookee here, it's those pesky links again...
WED JUN 19, 2013 AT 06:09 AM PDT
Highlights of IRS Manager’s Testimony: What Issa Doesn’t Want us to Know
by bluto211
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/19/1217...
The full transcript of the testimony of the IRS manager in charge of the screening unit for 501 c 4 groups was released yesterday in two parts (part one here, part two here) against the wishes of House Oversight Committee Chairman and witch-hunter/fear-monger, Darrell Issa. The testimony speaks for itself so let’s have it do the talking....
http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/s... (Part_I.pdf)
http://democrats.oversight.house.gov/images/s... (Part_II.pdf)
And your post speaks for itself, shows you believe everything dailykos writes. You should have read the pdf’s.
I will reference part I only, as the witness is the first one in line in the investigation and knows very little. Issa has started at the beginning where it all began.
Issa is making every effort to get to the ones responsible for targeting the Tea party and the witness was not doing the targeting. All the questionings show the witness very little but does point to someone higher. Why place a dedicated public servant in front of the public.
Lois Learner is the one who needs a good grilling again.

PDF –Part I
Shows only the info the witness was privy too, which was his emails, a few minutes of his meetings and notes.

According to the Attorneys for the witness, the IRS denied all relevant documents to the investigation. IRS said they would consider a request for a list of items submitted by the Attorneys, the Attorneys said they could not know what documents are relevant to the investigation as the IRS is responsible for determining which documents are relevant.
All info for part I come from approx. 45 emails, a few minutes of meetings and notes.

Pg. 36 and 37 indicate Tea Party filings were categorized all together in order to be consistent about the applications. And this decision was made based on one application, see page 43. The Tea party was classified as a high profile application.

Toward the end of part I, the witness memory starts failing him. He says multiple times,“I do not recall, I do not remember, not to my knowledge, I was not involved in the process, I’m not sure, etc.”

The witness, at the beginning of the Q&A said the Tea Party was not targeted but then toward the end of part I, the witness says they were looking for similar issues in the applications that would indicate a potential Tea Party.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#15959 Jun 20, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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I gotta say though that as beautiful as Costa Rica and Columbia are, to me, there is still no better place to live in the summer than Union County, Georgia.
The A-P Trail, those gorgeous mountain views, breakfasts at the Hole-in-the-Wall and the Sawmill, and some of the nicest people on Earth make for a terrific life.
most interesting, Info-op, I recently read a survey/poll that ranked the 'happiest people in the world'. Guess who was ranked #14, well below Mexico and a few more civilized countries. I do not put much stock in any of these polls/surveys- but do find it interesting.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#15960 Jun 20, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
So, Wright says his church's Mission Statement is based on the works of James Cone, fine - we'll see what Cone has to say. So, contrary to your charge, I'm not defining Wright's "christianity", Wright does a lovely job of that all by himself by his adherence to James Cone.(contrary to the apologist you quote):
From "A Black Theology of Liberation" James Cone
---"white theology must cease being white theology and become black theology by denying whiteness as an acceptable form of human existence and affirming blackness as God’s intention for humanity."
---"It maintains that all acts which participate in the destruction of white racism are Christian, the liberating deeds of God. All acts which impede the struggle of black self­ determination-black power-are anti-Christian, the work of Satan."
--- To be black is to be commit­ted to destroying everything this country loves and adores."
---"the task of authentic theological speech is even more dangerous and difficult.
It is dangerous because the true prophet of the gospel of God must become both "anti-Christian" and "unpatriotic." It is impos­sible to confront a racist society, with the meaning of human existence grounded in commitment to the divine, without at the same time challenging the very existence of the national structure and all its institutions, especially the established churches. All national institutions represent the interests of society as a whole. We live in a nation which is committed to the perpetuation of white supremacy, and it will try to exterminate all who fail to support this ideal."
How typical, all manner of quotes pulled from who knows where, what is the context of each quote, what is the source of the cut and paste extravaganza. Could it be that the source of this material only provided the most damaging quotes, no that could never be.

"I'm not defining Wright's "christianity""
Of Course you aren't, you're simply using him as an example of what isn't a True Christian. Obviously not the same at all.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"Wright is hardly mainstream - he's much more of a Liberation Theology adherent than a minister of true Christianity"
Informed Opinion

Liberia, Costa Rica

#15961 Jun 20, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
And for those who may be interested, here is one definition of Liberation Theology:
"holds that the church must stand on the side of the impoverished and the downtrodden, and that it must, if necessary, support the overthrow of social systems that contribute to their oppression. Its more extreme advocates believe that capitalism is chief among the oppressive systems in causing social and material inequities around the world.com bine the teachings of Jesus Christ with those of Karl Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism. The bishops interpreted every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to redistribute wealth from the haves to the have-nots, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for a social uprising by peasants and workers."
Just like that leeeeeeeeeeberal socialist commie Libtard revolutionary,
Jesus,
to take the side of the poor, the sick, and the old.

What did he think he was ?

A "Christian" ?

If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a Christian.
Mark Twain
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#15962 Jun 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Not at all, but that goofball from Dahlonega has offered positively NOTHING. Go back and read his posts. Otherwise, nunya.
As for your last sentence....it wouldn't be difficult, little boy. ; )
I liked his posts. Your last sentence was just funny. LoL. ;)
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#15963 Jun 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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It's just enough to know that you DEFEND the IRS and their actions.
It just disturbs you...... Doesn't it Syn? LoL.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#15964 Jun 20, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
@Synergy
"Rut-roh" - LOL - love that Scooby Doo.
I liked it too. I see replyed to a couple of my posts girl. Have you forgiven me?:)

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#15965 Jun 20, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>I liked it too. I see replyed to a couple of my posts girl. Have you forgiven me?:)
Presuming this is a serious question, it appears you are making a sincere effort to not be offensive. Most people deserve second chances -(you are way past that IMO) but I appreciate that you are trying. I am sorry if that sounds arrogant, I'm just being honest.

While you and I disagree on most subjects, we do have a few points of agreement. If we can be civil in our disagreements - I'm cool with that. Peace- or at least an armed truce? ;)
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#15966 Jun 20, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Presuming this is a serious question, it appears you are making a sincere effort to not be offensive. Most people deserve second chances -(you are way past that IMO) but I appreciate that you are trying. I am sorry if that sounds arrogant, I'm just being honest.
While you and I disagree on most subjects, we do have a few points of agreement. If we can be civil in our disagreements - I'm cool with that. Peace- or at least an armed truce? ;)
Sounds good to me little girl ;) Sorry for my grammar errors chick. I just woke up. Late night :)
What

Mount Airy, GA

#15967 Jun 20, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Just like that leeeeeeeeeeberal socialist commie Libtard revolutionary,
Jesus,
to take the side of the poor, the sick, and the old.
What did he think he was ?
A "Christian" ?
If Christ were here now there is one thing he would not be - a Christian.
Mark Twain
Twain was an aethist like you.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#15968 Jun 20, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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How typical, all manner of quotes pulled from who knows where, what is the context of each quote, what is the source of the cut and paste extravaganza. Could it be that the source of this material only provided the most damaging quotes, no that could never be.
"I'm not defining Wright's "christianity""
Of Course you aren't, you're simply using him as an example of what isn't a True Christian. Obviously not the same at all.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"Wright is hardly mainstream - he's much more of a Liberation Theology adherent than a minister of true Christianity"
You're kidding right, do you really think there is ANY context that could makes those quotes less racist and hate filled? But hey, just read his preface to the book I referenced - you'll get all the proof you need of his point of view.

And speaking of taking things out of context, how about quoting my whole statement:
"So, contrary to your charge, I'm not defining Wright's "christianity", Wright does a lovely job of that all by himself by his adherence to James Cone.(contrary to the apologist you quote)"

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15969 Jun 20, 2013
What wrote:
Local governments quietly cutting hours to skirt Obamacare law...
http://news.investors.com/061913-660419-local...
Just more facts that our progressive posters will either ignore or deny.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15970 Jun 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Obama accusing something of being divisive is the ultimate definition of IRONY. He has no shame. He really is mentally ill.
Pot calling the kettle black.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15971 Jun 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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This made me laugh out loud. Thanks for posting. Remember how the libs just swooned over Obama's eloquence? Without his teleprompter, he sounds a lot like Porky Pig. He stutters and "uh's" ad nauseam.
Obama a good speaker? No. Obama a good reader? Yes.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15972 Jun 20, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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The libroids REFUSE to believe that their hero, Obama, is going to stick it to them with his healthcare debacle. it doesn't matter how many links we post. They MUST be worried, but they'll NEVER show it to us.
Of course the Progressives are worried. They know if the immigration bill passes that another 30 million people will be added to the AHCA roles. How are they going to pay those AHCA taxes with only 29 hours of work a week. That is if they aren't on welfare already.
You do notice they just ignore all the Obamacare articles. Yes, they are worried.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15973 Jun 20, 2013
Duet wrote:
What we need are cyber leaders. In other words computers and software programs that make decisions that effect the well being of our country. There would be no personal bias, kickbacks, lying or pork belly politics. We the people would vote for our choice of robot candidates and let them do the rest.
And no I would never vote for a computer named Hal.
Can we trust the people that write the software program for it?

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#15974 Jun 20, 2013
General Robert E Lee wrote:
We sit back helplessly watching our elected Republicans cut backroom deals with Chuck Schumer to sell out the Republic and create a permanent Democrat majority. Yet we have nobody to blame but ourselves for electing these liars in the first place.
Ultimately, they are working for the political class, and if that political class decides that an onerous bill must pass, they will work overtime to lend Republican prestige to that proposal – either publicly or privately. They will often vote against the bill once passage is inevitable, but they will work behind the scenes to sabotage any unified opposition.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/20/we-elected...
We have a one party system disguised as a two party system.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#15975 Jun 20, 2013
Jeb wrote:
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I heard that Aggie had been had by most of Bartow County
First, that is mean and uncalled for- and just downright rude, please do not attach my name to such a statement.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#15976 Jun 20, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Plan on really retiring here, or in Columbia, someday - but here on business.
Costa Rica is a great place for seminars, because after the conferences, there's no end of great things to do.
You're right... the employers and employees here love their public healthcare.
Folks here are amazed how Americans insist on making insurance companies rich, and can't understand why anyone wouldn't want public healthcare.
Most studies show that Costa Rica has the most satisfied and happy population on Earth - so I think they must know something.
kinda short on cash, could you hook me up with some of those cartels down there- kiddin!
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#15977 Jun 20, 2013
What wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
And your post speaks for itself, shows you believe everything dailykos writes. You should have read the pdf’s.

Pg. 36 and 37 indicate Tea Party filings were categorized all together in order to be consistent about the applications. And this decision was made based on one application, see page 43. The Tea party was classified as a high profile application.

Toward the end of part I, the witness memory starts failing him. He says multiple times,“I do not recall, I do not remember, not to my knowledge, I was not involved in the process, I’m not sure, etc.”

The witness, at the beginning of the Q&A said the Tea Party was not targeted but then toward the end of part I, the witness says they were looking for similar issues in the applications that would indicate a potential Tea Party.
Pg. 36 and 37 indicate Tea Party filings were categorized all together in order to be consistent about the applications. And this decision was made based on one application, see page 43. The Tea party was classified as a high profile application.
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No, what's being discussed is one application with a certian set of parameters that generated additional concern because of media atention.

No, it was classified as high profile because of the recent media attention and elevated to EO technical because of the need for determination of the level of political activity permissible for 501c4 (this is in 2010).

Further discussion of this begins on pg-61-66,72-75

Top of pg-75
"So, in answer to your question, no, I did not instruct that if you had "Tea Party" in a case that it would automatically go to another group for screening."

Q: So you expected your screeners to look at the substance of the application, not just the name of the ornagization?

A: Correct, correct. That's our norm. That was our normal course of business on every case, not only these, on every case.

Pg-88-97 discusses the concept of emerging issues

Pg-98-103 questions search criteria that wasn't search criteria but common issues found in applications.
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"Toward the end of part I, the witness memory starts failing him. He says multiple times,“I do not recall, I do not remember, not to my knowledge, I was not involved in the process, I’m not sure, etc.”"

So what.
.....
"The witness, at the beginning of the Q&A said the Tea Party was not targeted but then toward the end of part I, the witness says they were looking for similar issues in the applications that would indicate a potential Tea Party."

No, he related common issues that individual screeners were seeing in these applications.

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