ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#13414 May 28, 2013
Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Abraham Lincoln
Informed Opinion

North Fort Myers, FL

#13415 May 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>In keeping with your post, I am sure you are simply appalled at the following:

"According to BusinessWeek, the SEIU spent $85 million to help elect Democrats in 2008."
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"This kind of spending, which is on the rise, has enabled the largest unions to maintain and in some cases increase their clout in Washington and state capitals, even though unionized workers make up a declining share of the workforce.

The hours spent by union employees working on political matters were equivalent in 2010 to a shadow army much larger than President Barack Obama's current re-election staff, data analyzed by the Journal show."

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“Big Labor, especially its public employee union component, is by far the most powerful, most generous lobby in America.” To combat this corruption, he recommends America prohibits public employee unions from donating money to politics, or better yet, prohibit public employees’ unions altogether. That seems to be a drastic step to prevent all that generous union money going to support Democratic candidates.

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"Unions have poured millions of dues-payers’ dollars into the campaigns of Pennsylvania politicians who pass and preserve laws favoring unions, and who approve pay and benefits - especially pensions - for public service employee union members which have impoverished municipalities, school districts, counties and the Commonwealth. And politicians in both major parties receive union money." Jerry Shenk

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And finally, in regard to public sector unions, two quotes from Franklin D Roosevelt:
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.".....

"Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."
Business Week ?

Isn't that owned by a Billionaire named Bloomberg ?

Do you think the editorializing by a Billionaire Republican about Democratic contributors might be just a little bit biased ?

Is this the same Billionaire politician who alone spent $250 Million Dollars buying the New York mayors position ?

The same Billionaire politician who spent 13X more than his opponent ?

We're all shocked ! shocked !

that Billionaire Politician Bloomberg says those damn unions,
are bad,
even though they spent less money,
all together,
combined,
for the entire country,
than he did
just running for mayor.

(Can you say "hypocritical Right Wing Wacko?)

How ironically stupid is Bloomberg's complaint ?

How dare millions of Americans spend less to support politicians than he alone spends on electing himself.

Those bastards !!!

Don't they know only Billionaires get to support politicians - especially themselves.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#13416 May 28, 2013
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."

Thomas Donahue

Since: Nov 08

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#13417 May 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Ironically, you maintain your ability to be wrong 98.437 % of the time.
Kicking Right Wing Wackos out if office has solved the problem.
California, without RWWs destroying everything they touch, has dragged itself out if the RWW quagmire, and now enjoys a budget surplus.
Just like Clinton creates a surplus after Ronnie Ray-Gun exploded the deficit;
and
just as Obama has ready cut Bush's $1.4 Trillion Dollar deficit in half;
now
Jerry Brown has brought California back to fiscal health from the Right Wing Wacko induced disasters.
Right Wingers:
- create huge deficits;
- destroy economies;
- damage lives; and
- make profits on the disasters they create;
- then bitch when normal Americans rush in and save the day.
Right Wingers - like small puppies, they're cute, fun to watch, and always leave piles of crap when grown ups aren't around to smack them with a newspaper.
It is astounding how someone can become as insane as you are. You'll believe absolutely anything.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13418 May 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."
Thomas Donahue
So, you belong to a union?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#13420 May 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Business Week ?
Isn't that owned by a Billionaire named Bloomberg ?
Do you think the editorializing by a Billionaire Republican about Democratic contributors might be just a little bit biased ?
Is this the same Billionaire politician who alone spent $250 Million Dollars buying the New York mayors position ?
The same Billionaire politician who spent 13X more than his opponent ?
We're all shocked ! shocked !
that Billionaire Politician Bloomberg says those damn unions,
are bad,
even though they spent less money,
all together,
combined,
for the entire country,
than he did
just running for mayor.
(Can you say "hypocritical Right Wing Wacko?)
How ironically stupid is Bloomberg's complaint ?
How dare millions of Americans spend less to support politicians than he alone spends on electing himself.
Those bastards !!!
Don't they know only Billionaires get to support politicians - especially themselves.
Perhaps I didn't differentiate quotes as well as I should have. Only the very first sentence was from Business Week.
The rest are from various articles. But how do you like this story from the Daily Beast - that should be Left wing enough for you.

"a union official who openly boasted in a story...:We dont like to brag, but were the big dog when it comes to campaign funding.
Big as in $87.5 million. Big as in the biggest spender of any outside groupall meant to protect the interests of unions, the new privileged class. But wait a minute: Team O led us to believe that honor went to the vilified U.S. Chamber of Commerce and all of its alleged contributions from foreign money sponsors
Campaign spending by labor unions makes a mockery of President Obama's bogus boogie-man scare tactics about supposed shadowy foreign interests.(Louis Lanzano / AP Photo)

A record $87.5 million has been spent by one union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, to elect Democrats. Paid not by voluntary contribution from its members, but by forced union dues from workerswho are paid by taxpayers."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/10...

And I notice you completely ignored FDR's quotes, I'll repeat them just for you.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.".....

"Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."
Vet

Fayetteville, GA

#13421 May 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
WHO didn't see THIS coming?????
Told ya so. This is just the beginning.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-pers...
The ACA is an abomination.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#13422 May 29, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>The ACA is an abomination.
Did you really just type that?

A plan to help people get health-care, to cure their illnesses and keep from having their lives destroyed if they get sick is an abomination?

What's a true abomination is that such a plan was necessary in the first place. The ACA is a response to a greed-driven, uncaring, profit-motivated health-care system which has developed into something so illogical and exploitative that it destroys millions of lives and denies health-care to millions each year.

There's your abomination.
Scott

Twinsburg, OH

#13423 May 29, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."
Thomas Donahue
"The best way to rid ourselves of chickenbutts is to add more KFC franchises"

Colonel Sanders
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#13424 May 29, 2013
There's been a lot of "rebranding" going on in the United States lately.

From governmental politics to fast food corporations, it seems as though many entities are trying their best to capture the enthusiasm of the masses and the rapidly evolving mood of consumers.

If you're not aware, Kentucky Fried Chicken is undergoing a company facelift.

KFC wants to reach millennials by moving away from their fried chicken buckets, which was a staple in the 90s when families actually ate together and sat down at a table.

For comparative purposes, I'm going to refer to the GOP and KFC as "companies."

Also, I refer to both entities as companies because both are dealing with money while looking to increase their base (consumers and voters) in order to further the company's mission.

For the GOP, their mission is avoid another 2012 election outcome.

For KFC, their mission is stay relevant in an age where consumers are eating more healthy, looking for crops that are grown responsibly, ingesting animals that are raised humanely and seeking foods that don't adversely affect the climate.

Recently the GOP made an announcement that they would be rebranding the party in an attempt to reach minorities.

On April 5, KFC said they would be unveiling deep-fried boneless chicken pieces beginning April 14, 2013.

Spokesman Rick Maynard said,

"Younger people don't tend to be fans of bones - they've grown up with nuggets."

KFC says they are making these changes because the millennial generation, those in their 20s and 30s, are used to food on-the-go.

RNC Chairman Reince Prebius said the GOP would reach minority voters by creating a $10 million budget in addition to placing "boots on the ground."

The GOP and KFC are trying to reach a segment of the population they've struggled to attract recently.

What the GOP and KFC are having a hard time realizing is that their problems are related to their product, not the way in which their product is advertised and consumed.

Has KFC stopped to think that the reason people are choosing Chic-Fil-A and Popeye's is because their product tastes better (also, who can forget the horror stories of various and unsavory chicken body parts ending up in KFC meals)?

Has the GOP taken the time to understand why minorities and younger generations feel they can identify more with the Democratic Party instead of just giving up and saying that blacks who vote liberally are slaves on the "plantation?"

It's admirable to see a party or a company realize that it needs to evolve with time, but it's not a good use of anyone's time and money if no real effort is being put forth to understand a particular segment of the population.

It may have worked in the past to repackage a product without changing the product's main ingredients, but populations are becoming more conscious of their everyday choices and the global impact of those decisions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-simon/re...
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13425 May 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Go ahead and defend those criminals. Your party will be next. You'll wet your pants then.
But you said it was all nailed down, a slam dunk, reaching all the way to the top, worser than anything.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13426 May 29, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
In keeping with your post, I am sure you are simply appalled at the following:...
Nope, if it had been "In keeping with your post" it would have dealt with 501c4 applicants, these fall under political advocacy is OK as long as it supports what I believe in. Good cut and paste though, I knew you'd get the hang of it.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#13427 May 29, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, if it had been "In keeping with your post" it would have dealt with 501c4 applicants, these fall under political advocacy is OK as long as it supports what I believe in. Good cut and paste though, I knew you'd get the hang of it.
501c4 - designed to allow the very few to manipulate and corrupt - secretly.

Like my Grandpa used to say - "Boy, if you are so ashamed of what you're doing that you gotta do it in secret - it's probably something you shouldn't be doin."
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13428 May 29, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
On the topic of unions, took about 5 minutes to find the following:
"With this latest act of physical aggression, SEIU escalated its campaign against registered nurses"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-burger/...
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"Members of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) protested at entrances to the Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday the biggest travel day of the year delaying people trying to spend time with their families and leading to a dozen arrests.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/21/dozen-arres...
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As far as the union, they keep intimidating us. They keep pushing us to go with them, but we are not part of them. We dont want to do anything with them, worker Martin Storm told CBS2s Kara Finnstrom.We are actually getting paid a lot better, and I have better health insurance than I did with the union.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/21/som...
It took me less than 5 minutes to go to the Huffington Post article and begin reading the comments, very interesting....

The Daily Caller article describes a non-violent protest.

And your third link, maybe it's true, maybe not, who knows.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13429 May 29, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>The ACA is an abomination.
Try to warn a left wing looney about that.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#13430 May 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>It is astounding how someone can become as insane as you are. You'll believe absolutely anything.
Nice try.

Those damn pesky facts.

Remember the Right Wing Wackos in the White House ?

They inherited a budget surplus and left us with a $1.4 Trillion Dollar Annual Deficit,

and the greatest recession since the Great Depression,

and three unfunded wars:

Turns out the Grown Ups are repairing the RWW damage even faster than expected.

Paul Singer, USA TODAY
The outlook for budget deficits is expected to continue improving.

by Susan Davis, USA TODAY

Published: 05/15/2013 12:31am

WASHINGTON — A continued decline in the federal budget deficit this year is resulting in a better than expected fiscal forecast for 2013 from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.

"The CBO projects a $642 billion budget deficit for fiscal year 2013, down more than $200 billion from its February estimate and the smallest annual shortfall since 2008.
It is the lowest level of deficit spending to date under President Obama, who faced $1 trillion or more in annual deficits during his first term."

Thank you Grown Ups.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#13431 May 29, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
...A record $87.5 million has been spent by one union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, to elect Democrats. Paid not by voluntary contribution from its members, but by forced union dues from workerswho are paid by taxpayers."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/10...
And how is that different than any trade organization spending a portion of it's members dues on political advocacy, as a member of a trade organization a member has one vote, do you think that the board of any trade org does things that all members agree with.

Tell us, when a public sector employee is paid, is that money not their own to with as they see fit. Why is it significant that public sector employees are paid by the taxpayers, are you suggesting that public sectors have a special obligation to the rest of us as to how they spend what they earn.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13432 May 29, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you really just type that?
A plan to help people get health-care, to cure their illnesses and keep from having their lives destroyed if they get sick is an abomination?
What's a true abomination is that such a plan was necessary in the first place. The ACA is a response to a greed-driven, uncaring, profit-motivated health-care system which has developed into something so illogical and exploitative that it destroys millions of lives and denies health-care to millions each year.
There's your abomination.
The TRUE abomination is people who don't have their priorities straight and who had rather have a car they can't afford, children they can't afford, a house they can't afford and/or off the chart vacations they can't afford instead of taking care of their personal needs(health insurance) and then expecting everyone else to supply it for them.
BTW, no one is denied healthcare. It's available for everyone.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13433 May 29, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
But you said it was all nailed down, a slam dunk, reaching all the way to the top, worser than anything.
Go ahead and defend the criminals. Typical of your ilk.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#13434 May 29, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
Those damn pesky facts.
Remember the Right Wing Wackos in the White House ?
They inherited a budget surplus and left us with a $1.4 Trillion Dollar Annual Deficit,
and the greatest recession since the Great Depression,
and three unfunded wars:
Turns out the Grown Ups are repairing the RWW damage even faster than expected.
Paul Singer, USA TODAY
The outlook for budget deficits is expected to continue improving.
by Susan Davis, USA TODAY
Published: 05/15/2013 12:31am
WASHINGTON — A continued decline in the federal budget deficit this year is resulting in a better than expected fiscal forecast for 2013 from the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.
"The CBO projects a $642 billion budget deficit for fiscal year 2013, down more than $200 billion from its February estimate and the smallest annual shortfall since 2008.
It is the lowest level of deficit spending to date under President Obama, who faced $1 trillion or more in annual deficits during his first term."
Thank you Grown Ups.
lol So, you think Obama is responsible for that????????? He has DONE NOTHING. What is happening is cyclic. It would have happened anyway except it would have happened faster with a president who actually worked with congress. Seriously, Obama has done nothing but campaign since he has been in office.

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