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“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#6462 Apr 8, 2013
Doo wrote:
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Mitt Romeny said that 37% didn't matter anyways....so 41% ain't bad! Wonder if he figured out why he lost yet?
Just look in the mirror and ask Chickenbutt.

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#6463 Apr 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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All brought to us by the powers that be, hidden, unseen, manipulators, seen and known to only a few who can decipher the signs and runes.
TROLL

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#6464 Apr 8, 2013
Bored wrote:
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thanks for the link. It also shows::
""For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82 million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent, however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not only jobless — but with no desire for work.
"The ratio expresses more clearly how many people find working to be a 'good or attractive deal,'" Tyler Cowen, economist and director of the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, adds to CNN.
If the numbers seem drastic, it’s because they are. So rampant in fact is the country’s seeming disregard for work that other just-released statistics show that funding welfare programs for the American population was the most expensive endeavor undertaken in all of Fiscal Year 2011.
Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee released findings this week showing that the government spent roughly $1.03 trillion on welfare programs last year, funding 83 separate efforts to provide assistance to Americans. Days earlier, a separate study out of Capitol Hill revealed that the number of people enrolled to receive federal assistance by way of food stamps has hit a new record high with roughly 47 million US residents.""
“These astounding figures demonstrate that the United States spends more on federal welfare than any other program in the federal budget,” Alabama Sen. Jeff Session writes in a letter provided to The Daily Caller this week.“It is time to restore — not retreat from — the moral principles of the 1996 welfare reform. Such reforms, combined with measures to promote growth, will help both the recipient and the Treasury.”
Why work when the government takes care of you??
All by design. Make the people govenment dependent. Take away incentive and then everyone is at the mercy and whims of the government. It's becoming increasingly clear.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#6465 Apr 8, 2013
Bored wrote:
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2014: DEMS BEGIN TO FREAK OVER OBAMACARE CHAOS...
The party has long acknowledged that the Affordable Care Act has its flaws. Their new openness about those flaws comes after Obama’s reelection, which ensured that the law would not be repealed before it’s fully implemented.
But it also comes just ahead of the 2014 election cycle, when vulnerable Democrats in conservative states will have to defend their votes for the health law.
Landrieu is already facing a tough reelection fight next year. And one of the Republicans who has lined up to challenge her, Rep. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), is a doctor who still sees Medicaid patients when Congress isn’t in session.
In addition to rank-and-file Democrats who voted for the healthcare law, Republicans this time are hoping to defeat Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.)— who was the primary author of the Affordable Care Act in his position as Finance chairman.
Senate Republicans’ campaign arm attacked Baucus this week as the “ObamaCare architect.”
Flaws in the law’s execution — such as higher premiums or fewer options for small businesses — could be weapons against Baucus.
"People already don't like ObamaCare, but they're really not going to like the tax hikes, mandates, fees, penalties, and added red tape bureaucracy that go info effect over the next eight months. It goes from being an abstract discussion to a real life pain," the National Republican Senatorial Committee said.
CN is just a troll who came crawling back after claiming we weren't smart enough for him, so he was going to another forum. Apparently, he "dazzled" them with his brand of "intellect" just as he has "dazzled" us.*laughing out loud* So, he's back.

Since: Nov 12

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#6466 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Yep, let's use common sense:
If any income should get treated favorably its income earned as a result of a man's labor - that incentivizes people to work.
If any income should be taxes at the highest rates it's capital gains - in the history of the world no rational investor ever stopped investing as a result of taxes because something is always better than nothing. There's no need to incentivize investing - it always incentivizes itself.
Absolutely wrong, the low capital gains rate is to encourage the RISK of investing in a venture that MAY pay off or that MAY fail - thus resulting in the loss of the money RISKED in the investment.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#6467 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Oh boy !
Insult time again.
Synergy is a moron,
Synergy is a moron,
Synergy is a moron.
It's fun to argue like a Right Winger - no need for facts, reason, or rational thought.
TROLL

BTW, Aggie just took you to school. You needed it!

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#6468 Apr 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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All brought to us by the powers that be, hidden, unseen, manipulators, seen and known to only a few who can decipher the signs and runes.
As intelligent as you apparently think you are, you should have determined that by now. Look at whom the republicans ran. SERIOUSLY?????? Another poster pointed that out and I started thinking about it. It made NO SENSE that Obama(with no qualifications to speak of) could possibly win unless he wasn't actually challenged. McCain/Palin(who?) ticket was insane and easily beat. Another loser had to run the second time because Obama had done a TERRIBLE job, but he HAD to be reelected. That would take care of the racial issue EXCEPT under Obama's reign, race relations have regressed by YEARS and just to make it interesting, the classes and parties are more divided than ever.
Bored

Jefferson, GA

#6469 Apr 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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If you understand the tax code so well, than quit equating the income tax rates to the capital gains rate - it will go a long way toward perhaps eventually restoring your credibility.
The same goes with the Bible and with baptismal liturgies - quit trying to mislead as to what is meant by "support". Spiritual support is the promise given, not material support.
"but the answer is to invest more" - that could be used as a perfect example of Einstein's definition of insanity : "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." The programs established are what are creating a permanent underclass - they must be radically reformed.
Those union pensions that are being destroyed were always unsustainable and are what have lead to communities facing financial ruin if they don't radically change those pension plans. That can be laid at the feet of the unions and the city/county/state governments that agreed to them in the first place.

Libtards don't understand effects & results.

Don't understand how lowering capital gains taxes affect the economy.

Don't understand the double taxation of capital gains and the penalty of long term inflation on certain held capital.

Don't understand the damage that capital taxes does to most middle and low income people.

Don't understand a long term held capital gain,(like land, house, etc) sold after many years of ownership, and taxed in one year at the "now" value of the capital which includes the inflated cost.

Don't understand that government creates a devaluation of currency by creating more fiat money.


they do believe in the following myths;

Lowering capital gains tax rates will not help the economy.

If there is a capital gains tax cut, it should be temporary and it should not be available to all investors.

Cutting capital gains tax rates will cause stock markets to fall.

Capital gains tax cuts benefit the "wealthy" and no one else.

Lowering capital gains tax rates will not lead to more investment.

Government cannot "afford" large and permanent cut in capital gains tax rates.

Capital gains already receive preferential treatment because they are taxed at lower rates than ordinary income.
((Fact: Double-taxation of investment returns and taxing inflation cause capital gains tax rates to exceed tax rates on ordinary income.))

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#6470 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Oh boy !
Insult time again.
Synergy is a moron,
Synergy is a moron,
Synergy is a moron.
It's fun to argue like a Right Winger - no need for facts, reason, or rational thought.
Thanks for the shorter post. We ALL appreciate it.

Your insults don't bother me because you are an egotistical filibustering troll.
Bored

Jefferson, GA

#6471 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Yep, let's use common sense:
If any income should get treated favorably its income earned as a result of a man's labor - that incentivizes people to work.
If any income should be taxes at the highest rates it's capital gains - in the history of the world no rational investor ever stopped investing as a result of taxes because something is always better than nothing. There's no need to incentivize investing - it always incentivizes itself.
What a big Dummy!

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#6472 Apr 8, 2013
Bored wrote:
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thanks for the link. It also shows::
""For now, 58.7 per cent of American adults are working if the actual employment-population ratio is taken into consideration, leaving about 82 million, or almost 41 per cent of people unemployed. Only 8 per cent, however, are even interested in work, leaving 33 per cent of Americans not only jobless — but with no desire for work.
"The ratio expresses more clearly how many people find working to be a 'good or attractive deal,'" Tyler Cowen, economist and director of the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, adds to CNN.
If the numbers seem drastic, it’s because they are. So rampant in fact is the country’s seeming disregard for work that other just-released statistics show that funding welfare programs for the American population was the most expensive endeavor undertaken in all of Fiscal Year 2011.
Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee released findings this week showing that the government spent roughly $1.03 trillion on welfare programs last year, funding 83 separate efforts to provide assistance to Americans. Days earlier, a separate study out of Capitol Hill revealed that the number of people enrolled to receive federal assistance by way of food stamps has hit a new record high with roughly 47 million US residents.""
“These astounding figures demonstrate that the United States spends more on federal welfare than any other program in the federal budget,” Alabama Sen. Jeff Session writes in a letter provided to The Daily Caller this week.“It is time to restore — not retreat from — the moral principles of the 1996 welfare reform. Such reforms, combined with measures to promote growth, will help both the recipient and the Treasury.”
Why work when the government takes care of you??
If the government didn't pay these unemployed people off they would be rioting in the streets. All hell would break loose in this country. Funny how angry hungry people can get.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

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#6473 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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That's not fair. Don't blame them. They can't help it.
Right Wingers are always afraid.
Late at night, with their night lights on, they hide beneath their covers, trembling in terror, afraid the boogeyman is gonna steal their Social Security checks and their Viagra we bought them with Medicare Part D.
lol You have some GREAT support there, IO.

Since: Jan 10

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#6474 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Yep, let's use common sense:
If any income should get treated favorably its income earned as a result of a man's labor - that incentivizes people to work.
If any income should be taxes at the highest rates it's capital gains - in the history of the world no rational investor ever stopped investing as a result of taxes because something is always better than nothing. There's no need to incentivize investing - it always incentivizes itself.
Proof your accountant is wrong if he/she thinks you have a good understanding of the tax system...

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#6476 Apr 8, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Well, the woman running for PRESIDENT will HAVE to win. So, the republicans probably won't run much of anyone. I hope they do, but I have my doubts. Of course, if another democrat wins then that will pretty much be it for this country. Oh, well.
It's scary. You have come around to my way of thought on the subject. The only hope is a new third party and the chances of that are about 20%.

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#6477 Apr 8, 2013
Bored wrote:
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Libtards don't understand effects & results.
Don't understand how lowering capital gains taxes affect the economy.
Don't understand the double taxation of capital gains and the penalty of long term inflation on certain held capital.
Don't understand the damage that capital taxes does to most middle and low income people.
Don't understand a long term held capital gain,(like land, house, etc) sold after many years of ownership, and taxed in one year at the "now" value of the capital which includes the inflated cost.
Don't understand that government creates a devaluation of currency by creating more fiat money.
they do believe in the following myths;
Lowering capital gains tax rates will not help the economy.
If there is a capital gains tax cut, it should be temporary and it should not be available to all investors.
Cutting capital gains tax rates will cause stock markets to fall.
Capital gains tax cuts benefit the "wealthy" and no one else.
Lowering capital gains tax rates will not lead to more investment.
Government cannot "afford" large and permanent cut in capital gains tax rates.
Capital gains already receive preferential treatment because they are taxed at lower rates than ordinary income.
((Fact: Double-taxation of investment returns and taxing inflation cause capital gains tax rates to exceed tax rates on ordinary income.))
+1 well stated.

I've TRIED to explain this stuff for a couple of years now, the clueless and uneducated just don't get it.

"they do believe in the following myths"
"Capital gains tax cuts benefit the "wealthy" and no one else."

Of the last 6 individual tax returns I prepared, 5 of them had capital gains treatment AND none of the 5 individuals/families had gross income (from wages) over $77K, one of them was around $45K.

To say that capital gains only benefits the wealthy is a great example of the "clueless and uneducated"...
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#6478 Apr 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely wrong, the low capital gains rate is to encourage the RISK of investing in a venture that MAY pay off or that MAY fail - thus resulting in the loss of the money RISKED in the investment.
Not true.

Anytime an investor doesn't want to "risk" his money, he puts it in a government insured bank account and the bank "invests" it for him, making it available just as if he had invested it himself;

or

The "investor" buys T-Bills which are secured by the full faith and credit if the American Taxpayer.

One thing that never happens is that the funds are not invested.

So there is never a need to incentivize investors - no matter what they do with their money, it's invested - either directly by them, or indirectly by government insured banks.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#6479 Apr 8, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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+1 well stated.
I've TRIED to explain this stuff for a couple of years now, the clueless and uneducated just don't get it.
"they do believe in the following myths"
"Capital gains tax cuts benefit the "wealthy" and no one else."
Of the last 6 individual tax returns I prepared, 5 of them had capital gains treatment AND none of the 5 individuals/families had gross income (from wages) over $77K, one of them was around $45K.
To say that capital gains only benefits the wealthy is a great example of the "clueless and uneducated"...
I think they get it. They can't be that stupid. They are just government trolls and all they do is deny, deny, deny, just as the government does.

Since: Jan 10

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#6480 Apr 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Not true.
Anytime an investor doesn't want to "risk" his money, he puts it in a government insured bank account and the bank "invests" it for him, making it available just as if he had invested it himself;
or
The "investor" buys T-Bills which are secured by the full faith and credit if the American Taxpayer.
One thing that never happens is that the funds are not invested.
So there is never a need to incentivize investors - no matter what they do with their money, it's invested - either directly by them, or indirectly by government insured banks.
Even further proof of the comment below:

"Proof your accountant is wrong if he/she thinks you have a good understanding of the tax system..."

Oh yeah, investing, too.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#6481 Apr 8, 2013
Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>TROLL

BTW, Aggie just took you to school. You needed it!
Ah, Right Wing insult time again.

Synergy is so stupid he was stuck on a broken escalator for 6 hours before he was rescued.

Synergy is so stupid he spent all day trying to drown his pet fish.

Damn, I like arguing the Right Wing way.

To paraphrase from the movie "As Good As It Gets", how do you think like a Right Wing Wacko:

“I think of a normal man, and I take away reason and accountability.”
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#6482 Apr 8, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Libtards don't understand effects & results.

Don't understand how lowering capital gains taxes affect the economy.

Don't understand the double taxation of capital gains and the penalty of long term inflation on certain held capital.

Don't understand the damage that capital taxes does to most middle and low income people.

Don't understand a long term held capital gain,(like land, house, etc) sold after many years of ownership, and taxed in one year at the "now" value of the capital which includes the inflated cost.

Don't understand that government creates a devaluation of currency by creating more fiat money.


they do believe in the following myths;

Lowering capital gains tax rates will not help the economy.

If there is a capital gains tax cut, it should be temporary and it should not be available to all investors.

Cutting capital gains tax rates will cause stock markets to fall.

Capital gains tax cuts benefit the "wealthy" and no one else.

Lowering capital gains tax rates will not lead to more investment.

Government cannot "afford" large and permanent cut in capital gains tax rates.

Capital gains already receive preferential treatment because they are taxed at lower rates than ordinary income.
((Fact: Double-taxation of investment returns and taxing inflation cause capital gains tax rates to exceed tax rates on ordinary income.))
Yea, take us to school -

Let's see- what have we learned :

Reagan - cut taxes on the rich and on their capital gains - exploded the deficit and tripled the national debt.

Bush - cut taxes on the rich and on their capital gains - exploded the deficit and doubled the national debt.

Right Wingers - just too damn stupid to learn from experience.

Now they want to cut taxes on the rich and their capital gains - Jeez - what in the world do you think might happen ?

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