International 'net scam broken by Jen...

International 'net scam broken by Jenison woman

There are 31 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Aug 28, 2008, titled International 'net scam broken by Jenison woman. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

Jen Anderson wanted a Prius, and answered an online classified for a used one. She put down $5,000 for the Prius she found online at Auto Trader.

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4 Justice

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Aug 29, 2008
How many times have we been told not to send money out to a stranger?
I can't believe people still fall for this scam.
They may have busted this ring, but doubt this lady will see a penny back.
gottobeme

Holland, MI

#2 Aug 29, 2008
dumm, dumm, dumm!
Go figure

Ada, MI

#3 Aug 29, 2008
Send in 5 grand on a car you have never seen, to a person you never met? She deserves to learn this $5,000 lesson.
Yup

Milwaukee, WI

#4 Aug 29, 2008
Well, judging from the quotes they cited from her, she's not the sharpest knife of the bunch. If you are an idiot and can not tell when you are or are not connected to a secure site, then you're gonna get what's coming. no https:// in front of the site? Then I'm not buying.

“Be Respectful”

Since: Jul 08

Grand Rapids

#5 Aug 29, 2008
Hey guys, I'm sure she feels stupid enough without everyone telling her that. It's a lesson well learned.
kev

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Aug 29, 2008
It was an expensive lesson but at least something is being done about it. Go get em boys.
Jennifer

United States

#7 Aug 29, 2008
This is very unfortunate that she was a victim of this scam. I hope that she is reimbursed her money after the case is settled. I've never purchased anything big over the internet and this particular incident makes me even more weary. It's sad really. People just have to be careful these days.
jim

Troy, MI

#8 Aug 29, 2008
I have bought 3 cars on the internet, never send money, and I went and seen the car before they recived any cash. If they won't agree to that, buyer beware.

By the way all 3 cars were gems. My daughter has the Subaru, I have a Jeep Sport, and my wife has a Grand Cherokee. The best deal was the Cherokee I got for 4200.00 Blue book at the time was over 8,000.00. If you take your time, the deals are there

“Part of the uninformed masses.”

Since: Jun 08

Grand Rapids

#9 Aug 29, 2008
Jennifer wrote:
This is very unfortunate that she was a victim of this scam. I hope that she is reimbursed her money after the case is settled. I've never purchased anything big over the internet and this particular incident makes me even more weary. It's sad really. People just have to be careful these days.
no, she would be lucky to see less than 1% of that money or more likely none. Ever.
Cassandra

Amelia Court House, VA

#10 Aug 29, 2008
I think that it's interesting that this story hits the news BEFORE the case is actually cracked!
Toby

Rome, Italy

#11 Aug 29, 2008
Surely the result of a public school education.
Banker

Denver, CO

#12 Aug 29, 2008
Toby wrote:
Surely the result of a public school education.
Toby, you are an idiot.
working girl

Cadillac, MI

#13 Aug 29, 2008
Very misleading headline-- she did not break the scam. Sounds like federal officials did that. She was just the victim. Do different people write the headlines tnan write the story?
derek

White Cloud, MI

#14 Aug 29, 2008
haha, I love the title - SHE broke the scam! Bravo! It sounds like the scam isn't even broken yet, and I'm sure the local news stations of the 100+ other victims are also claiming their respective victims each broke the scam. The Internet is a dangerous, scary place and lady, if you can't swim with the sharks, stay in the kiddie pool. Here are a few tips to safe buying:

As "Yup" says, https is important - but people can make their own security certificates (and your browser should alert you if they're not registered with a root certificate authority like Verisign). Get the latest version of Firefox for safer browsing (go to mozilla.org )

Never, never, never send money for these purchases using a direct wire transfer service like MoneyGram or Western Union - these companies serve their purpose, but do not offer the fraud protection you can get through PayPal.

For online vehicle purchases, vehicle checks (like CarFax) only have marginal use since the scammers will just use a VIN from a legit vehicle.

Once you're proficient with scam detection, it can be fun to toy with the scammers. Keep acting like you're ALMOST ready to buy but just need a little more information and enjoy their elaborate stories they fabricate as they try to pull the wool over your eyes.

“Just Thinking”

Since: Nov 07

Rockford, MI

#15 Aug 29, 2008
derek wrote:
haha, I love the title - SHE broke the scam! Bravo! It sounds like the scam isn't even broken yet, and I'm sure the local news stations of the 100+ other victims are also claiming their respective victims each broke the scam. The Internet is a dangerous, scary place and lady, if you can't swim with the sharks, stay in the kiddie pool. Here are a few tips to safe buying:
As "Yup" says, https is important - but people can make their own security certificates (and your browser should alert you if they're not registered with a root certificate authority like Verisign). Get the latest version of Firefox for safer browsing (go to mozilla.org )
Never, never, never send money for these purchases using a direct wire transfer service like MoneyGram or Western Union - these companies serve their purpose, but do not offer the fraud protection you can get through PayPal.
For online vehicle purchases, vehicle checks (like CarFax) only have marginal use since the scammers will just use a VIN from a legit vehicle.
Once you're proficient with scam detection, it can be fun to toy with the scammers. Keep acting like you're ALMOST ready to buy but just need a little more information and enjoy their elaborate stories they fabricate as they try to pull the wool over your eyes.
LOL that's funny. it's fun to mess with phone solicitors too!
Neko

Midland, MI

#16 Aug 29, 2008
I wonder when the FBI is going to arrest the leaders of a certain Mega-Church in Dallas that hires code crackers to send denial of service attacks to abortion supporters who post on internet message boards like this?

I wonder when the FBI is going to arrest Michael Hayden and Mike O'Connell for breaking and entering the computers of anti-war protesters?(Ditto for the New York police chief for crimes committed during the elections of 2002, 2004, and 2006...I saved the data!)

I wonder how many FBI agents are investigating violation of the "Hatch Act" by "above the law" law enforcement officers in Michigan?

Under the "dishonest" Attorney Generals appointed by Bush....None!

Good reason to buy guns and lots of bullets and hunt Republican Party leaders like 20 point bucks.

(Liberal gun grabbers are "enablers" for George Bush and the Church/Police State NAZI Party!!!)
Batch37 Pain Is Good

United States

#17 Aug 29, 2008
Neko wrote:
I wonder when the FBI is going to arrest the leaders of a certain Mega-Church in Dallas that hires code crackers to send denial of service attacks to abortion supporters who post on internet message boards like this?
I wonder when the FBI is going to arrest Michael Hayden and Mike O'Connell for breaking and entering the computers of anti-war protesters?(Ditto for the New York police chief for crimes committed during the elections of 2002, 2004, and 2006...I saved the data!)
I wonder how many FBI agents are investigating violation of the "Hatch Act" by "above the law" law enforcement officers in Michigan?
Under the "dishonest" Attorney Generals appointed by Bush....None!
Good reason to buy guns and lots of bullets and hunt Republican Party leaders like 20 point bucks.
(Liberal gun grabbers are "enablers" for George Bush and the Church/Police State NAZI Party!!!)
Good Morning Neko! Hope you are in better shape today.
acp

Grand Rapids, MI

#18 Aug 29, 2008
derek wrote:
haha, I love the title - SHE broke the scam! Bravo! It sounds like the scam isn't even broken yet, and I'm sure the local news stations of the 100+ other victims are also claiming their respective victims each broke the scam. The Internet is a dangerous, scary place and lady, if you can't swim with the sharks, stay in the kiddie pool. Here are a few tips to safe buying:
As "Yup" says, https is important - but people can make their own security certificates (and your browser should alert you if they're not registered with a root certificate authority like Verisign). Get the latest version of Firefox for safer browsing (go to mozilla.org )
Never, never, never send money for these purchases using a direct wire transfer service like MoneyGram or Western Union - these companies serve their purpose, but do not offer the fraud protection you can get through PayPal.
For online vehicle purchases, vehicle checks (like CarFax) only have marginal use since the scammers will just use a VIN from a legit vehicle.
Once you're proficient with scam detection, it can be fun to toy with the scammers. Keep acting like you're ALMOST ready to buy but just need a little more information and enjoy their elaborate stories they fabricate as they try to pull the wool over your eyes.
Two of the great ones:

http://www.easynetworknyc.com/powerbook/

and

http://www.419eater.com/html/joyce_ozioma.htm

Best thing is when you get a phising email, go to the site, check out the form, write a small PERL script that inserts random names and numbers in said form. Sleep the thread once in a while so they can't just blast anything between a particular time range. Let the script run for a few days ( if they don't take the site down ), and watch their database get poisoned.

Then let's see if they can tell between people they've actually scammed and the records that were inserted by said script... Oh if I were a fly on a wall....
Joe Jackson

United States

#19 Aug 29, 2008
Too bad she didn't do what I did and use an escrow service. Escrow.com held my money until I got my Lincoln, then paid the seller. Very cool.
blkandwht

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Aug 29, 2008
Look all over Craigslist and you will see daily ads of too good to be true deals. Yesterday, I emailed a guy on a 2002 Maxima listed for $3400. Told him I had money in hand and I will meet him within 20 minutes. He had listed it as being Grand Rapids and I was totally going to screw with him. Never replied. Funny thing as well, the photos of the supposed GR located car were from some other town in the back ground which I had brought up in my email stating that it was interesting the photos were NOT from GR.

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