Vitter amendment on census falls in Senate vote (Count Illegal Aliens in Census)

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http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/1...

"Sen. David Vitter's bid to require the 2010 Census to ask all respondents about their citizenship was killed today when the Senate voted to invoke cloture and end debate on the Commerce spending bill without having to consider the Louisiana Republican's amendment.

The Democratic leadership, which had been trying to block the Vitter amendment since early October, eked out a victory with the bare number of votes needed to invoke cloture, prevailing 60 to 39.

Vitter's Democratic colleague, Sen. Mary Landrieu, who had been caustic in her criticism of Vitter's measure, voted with the majority.

Vitter intended the citizenship count as a predicate to seeking to require that House seats be apportioned strictly on the basis of the citizen population of the United States, and not, as has always been the practice, on the total population."

Dan Bana

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GR_Paul wrote:

http://www.nola.com/politics/i ndex.ssf/2009/11/senate_democr ats_kill_vitter_a.html
"Sen. David Vitter's bid to require the 2010 Census to ask all respondents about their citizenship was killed today when the Senate voted to invoke cloture and end debate on the Commerce spending bill without having to consider the Louisiana Republican's amendment.
The Democratic leadership, which had been trying to block the Vitter amendment since early October, eked out a victory with the bare number of votes needed to invoke cloture, prevailing 60 to 39.
Vitter's Democratic colleague, Sen. Mary Landrieu, who had been caustic in her criticism of Vitter's measure, voted with the majority.
Vitter intended the citizenship count as a predicate to seeking to require that House seats be apportioned strictly on the basis of the citizen population of the United States, and not, as has always been the practice, on the total population."

Surprised Vitter found time to introduce a bill, thought he was busy juggling his favorite hookers in D.C. and New Orleans. God that wife of his looks good in leopard pattern dresses standing at a podium defending that punk.

Mark Luxford

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Vitter's bill is blatantly unconstitutional. The Constitution calls for a census of all "persons" not all citizens. And their intent that non-citizens be counted is evident in their fomula for counting slaves. I thought Republicans take a conservative Originalist view of the Constitution. I guess Vitter only uses that philosophy when it suits his purposes.

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Mark Luxford wrote:

Vitter's bill is blatantly unconstitutional. The Constitution calls for a census of all "persons" not all citizens. And their intent that non-citizens be counted is evident in their fomula for counting slaves. I thought Republicans take a conservative Originalist view of the Constitution. I guess Vitter only uses that philosophy when it suits his purposes.

Actually, that would be your side's stance on the issue. They only mention the constitution when it suits their purpose. Otherwise, it is ignored.

Dan Bana

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sassysandy050 wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, that would be your side's stance on the issue. They only mention the constitution when it suits their purpose. Otherwise, it is ignored.

Kind of like Bush/Cheney ignored it for 8 years.

Who Would Jesus Toture?

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DaBadBadNekobot wrote:

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And what side would that be Fascist Lover?
Funny how you NATIONAL SOCIALISTS try to paint Constitutional Conservatives as liberals!
Freedom hating Traitors speading NAZI BS like you need to be deported!(Or executied by the US Military for Treason and Sedation)
Not all people who oppose the Republican Party are liberals...
Liberals don't own guns and chainsaws!
The Republican Party is dead in my world.... hijacked by National Socialists...
The remaining Republicans are nothing but control freaks who need to be punished for attempting a coup against the republic.
Spreading Democracy in the USA IS a coup attempt!(And a CAPITAL FELONY!)
The USA is not....never was....and over my dead body ever will be a Christian Nation!
Death to those who attempt to place religion in any US government function!!!

Neko, you have just turned the crank for the last time. I am putting you on notice, from this point forward, I am forwarding any threatening post to the authorities. Enough is enough. You are not a harmless fool, you are a threat to others and yourself. While I feel bad for you, you will no longer get away with threatening me or anyone with violence.
I wanted to warn you so that you have the opportunity to decide to knock of the threats. It is your choice.

Mark Luxford

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sassysandy050 wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, that would be your side's stance on the issue. They only mention the constitution when it suits their purpose. Otherwise, it is ignored.

I noticed that you made no attempt to rebut what I said with any facts. Just another partisan statement by you.

Idea Maker

Howard City, MI

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speaking of the census...

why do they still ask your race?

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DaBadBadNekobot wrote:

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Threats to felon criminals, tyrants, and anyone else who would take freedom and liberty from an law abiding American Citizen IS Free Speech.
Anyone who thinks it isn't needs to be put on an old boat and sailed into Lake Michigan and used by the Coast Guard for target practice!
There is a reason why our founding fathers make freedom of speech Amendment number 1!
You threatened me first! You are terrorist to me!
People like you belong in places like GITMO!
Go ahead....call the police...Then Patriots can find out your real name and where you live!
You have already slandered here me enough to hire a lawyer and SUE YOU for everything you own!
See if I give a dayum! They should put HATERS like you in front of military firing squads!
I am sick and tired of people like you who libel and slander me because you disagree with my truths!
Stick it in your ear biddy!
My warning to you...
Attack the message....not the messager!
I have plenty of friends and I don't need some lonely internet busybody telling me what to do and how you live.
If you don't like MY freedom...
Then America isn't the place for you!

Took you long enough to decide to use your usual lunatic rants on my. Must be you ran out of your "pain" meds, eh?
As to your attack the message, you might consider that when attacking everyone else and threatening to shoot everyone that would dare to come anywhere near your psychotic self. You are in serious need of help Neko and not just pain meds.
I don't care about your "freedom" you are welcome to it the same as me, but threatening your fellow citizens is a felony according to an attorney friend of mine, so you might want to take more care with what you write. Registered or not, it is traceable. Think about it Mr. Lunatic.

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DaBadBadNekobot wrote:

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The crazy woman thinks Libertarians are liberals...LOL!

I didn't say Libertarians are liberals, I said YOU are a liberal. You and your threats are just so much garbage...go back under your rock you psychotic fool!

Dan Bana