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“We Need a NEW Villain.”

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I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.

The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.

Where's the LOVE?
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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
A nice foot up the @sses of the lot of you is what you are going to get in 2010.

I dont give a d*amn about this amendment, when the whole POS socialist healthcare debacle was passed over the heads and wishes of the public in the middle of the night.
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Oh and for those that actually do care about Stupak ammendment:

"No Guarantees Pro-Life Amendment Will Remain in Final Bill

The Stupak-Pitts Amendment (pro-life amendment), which codified a ban on federal funding of abortion into Pelosicare, passed the House by a vote of 240-193.

The Hyde Amendment has served for decades as the law of the land, barring federal funding of abortion by the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) through Medicaid. The Hyde Amendment must be renewed every year in the DHHS appropriations bill.

As Republicans have warned all along, the Hyde Amendment did not cover federal funding in the Pelosicare bill. Some pro-life Democrats agreed and insisted on a vote on this amendment, threatening to vote against the underlying bill unless Pelosi allowed this amendment to come to a floor vote.

Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) voted “present” on the Stupak-Pitts Amendment in a protest vote, pointing out that the passage of the amendment would facilitate the passage of the entire bill. None of the chairmen of the three House committees of jurisdiction would commit to inclusion of the Stupak-Pitts pro-life amendment in the final conference report that would merge the House and Senate bills, should the Senate vote to pass a health care bill.

In other words, Pelosi is likely to instruct the chairmen to chuck the amendment in conference.

That conference report would then have to pass both the House and the Senate. The left-wing loony “Progressive Caucus” has threatened to vote against final passage if the amendment is included in the conference report. Its non-inclusion in the final report threatens the votes of the 64 Democrats who voted in favor of Stupak-Pitts. "

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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
Thank the Dems for the amendment that is being removed? That amendment was put in there to get the votes and now that the votes are in, it is being removed. Thank the Dems for lying and cheating AGAIN to get a bill passed that the majority, in case you didn't know 52% is a majority of the American public did not want????
Next you'll be telling us to be sure and thank the bank robbers and rapists for their good deeds! What a wingnut you are!

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GR_Paul wrote:
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A nice foot up the @sses of the lot of you is what you are going to get in 2010.
I dont give a d*amn about this amendment, when the whole POS socialist healthcare debacle was passed over the heads and wishes of the public in the middle of the night.
Since when is 11pm, the middle of the night?

What? You don't care about the UNBORN? Well, we already know - you don't care about the BORN.

I hope you have healthcare, because you will need the foot removal surgery.
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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
That's because it's all SMOKE AND MIRRORS and we are smarter than that! We don't BELIEVE the democrat's BS like some of you do. See, that's what the dems problems are..... they believe the BS. LMAO.

Just wait to see if that amendment holds. If it does, I'll write BO a fan letter and beg for one of those famous 8 x 10 glossy photos!

And if it doesn't you must call Glen Beck and tell him he's right about everything!

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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
What's it matter? It's dead in the Senate anyway!

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Lakeshore wrote:
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That's because it's all SMOKE AND MIRRORS and we are smarter than that! We don't BELIEVE the democrat's BS like some of you do. See, that's what the dems problems are..... they believe the BS. LMAO.
Just wait to see if that amendment holds. If it does, I'll write BO a fan letter and beg for one of those famous 8 x 10 glossy photos!
And if it doesn't you must call Glen Beck and tell him he's right about everything!
So, there's no such thing as a ProLife DEM?

As grpaul has just shown - there is a very UN-holy alliance between the Christian Right and the teabaggers.

Pretend you are in Dickens Christmas Carol. The Ghost of Christmas future is showing you a way to save millions of unborn babies - IF you (Ebenezer) would just change your ways.

I'm ProChoice, but I'm telling you --if I have a choice to save the rest of the family by helping them get Healthcare - I would do it.

Come on...What is more important? Unborn babies or having a WEDGE ISSUE to battle DEMS - forever? Palin is doing her best to give you "death panels."

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Bubbly4now wrote:
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So, there's no such thing as a ProLife DEM?
As grpaul has just shown - there is a very UN-holy alliance between the Christian Right and the teabaggers.
Pretend you are in Dickens Christmas Carol. The Ghost of Christmas future is showing you a way to save millions of unborn babies - IF you (Ebenezer) would just change your ways.
I'm ProChoice, but I'm telling you --if I have a choice to save the rest of the family by helping them get Healthcare - I would do it.
Come on...What is more important? Unborn babies or having a WEDGE ISSUE to battle DEMS - forever? Palin is doing her best to give you "death panels."
And you are using the Dem talking points for smoke and mirrors and you know it. So your take on it is that anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view has an "unholy alliance" with someone else??? Nice Bubbly, real nice. You keep saying that the Right doesn't want everyone to have healthcare. Prove that with a source, not some Dem talking points BS being spread by Huffington Post. What the Right wants is common sense healthcare reform. The key word being REFORM not destroy and RE-DO!! Oh crap, why do I even bother, you don't know the difference!
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Dan Bana wrote:
Can this woman be this stupid, no other GOP is repeatig this lie anymore but she just keeps on plugging away with it.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/08/palin-dea...
Time has the same story by the way so don't go blaming the source.
Wrong again.....
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<quoted text>And you are using the Dem talking points for smoke and mirrors and you know it. So your take on it is that anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view has an "unholy alliance" with someone else??? Nice Bubbly, real nice. You keep saying that the Right doesn't want everyone to have healthcare. Prove that with a source, not some Dem talking points BS being spread by Huffington Post. What the Right wants is common sense healthcare reform. The key word being REFORM not destroy and RE-DO!! Oh crap, why do I even bother, you don't know the difference!
If both the Dems and GOP want everyone insured why don't we just expand Medicare to all adults and expand CHIPS or whatever it is for all children. Simple, problem solved, we pay for it by reducing the obscene defense budget to cover it and bring our troops home NOW.

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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
Thats because Stupak fell for it.... you know Queen bee Won't leave that in when it goes to get mixed up with the Senate's verison...

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Dan Bana wrote:
we pay for it by reducing the obscene defense budget to cover it and bring our troops home NOW.
really? it'll cost a ass load more to play the war on terrorism in a defensive mode
Fail: your quote is the best example I've seen in a long time...

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Bubbly4now wrote:
I don't see any forums started by ProLife Conservatives - THANKING DEMOCRATS for the Stupak ammendment denying coverage for anyone on the Public Option or receiving subsidies from the Federal Gov't.
The DEMS accomplished in 1-day, more than the REP/Cons have in 30 years.
Where's the LOVE?
They did what they had to do to get enough votes. Given the choice they'd have passed a bill making a government-run panel responsible for whether a person is aborted or not. AND don't think for a second anyone believes they won't just throw that amendment out in the middle of the night.

They'll make a concession on a public option to sway the senate at the least minute too. This is no surprise to anyone. It's a forgone conclusion that the demoncrats will pass this thing despite the fact we don't want this bill. We protested against it. We voiced it at town hall meetings and we proved it by voting the liberal bums out in Virginia. Yet Pelosi and her gang of moonbats continue to lie and say this is what American want.

Gotta agree with GRPaul on this one - a big, fat conservative boot up your ass is all they'll be getting from voters in 2010/2012.
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Dan Bana wrote:
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If both the Dems and GOP want everyone insured why don't we just expand Medicare to all adults and expand CHIPS or whatever it is for all children. Simple, problem solved, we pay for it by reducing the obscene defense budget to cover it and bring our troops home NOW.
If you weren't two clicks beneath an idiot, you would know that the budget that pays for all of the military is a fraction of what it will cost INITIALLY to fund the house socialized medicine bill.

So in order for freeloaders can have ObamaCare, let's gut the military?

Brillant, Bana...
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Dan Bana wrote:
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Or you can accept the fact that Palin is a lying sack of poop and you are falling for it.
If by falling for it you mean that it is in the bill then yes I am.
Bureaucratic panels will be calling the shots regarding who will receive government health care, its in the bill.
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MagicMojo wrote:
Palin, Beck, and Limbaugh do nothing but spew hate for our country and its leader. But I am a true believer in democracy and love the fact that even crazy people can express their opinions. The sad thing is however there are way to many nieve gullible people out there that actually put stock into the Craziness they are spreading, its scary.
I've never heard Hate....
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Seems Palin has become kind of a comedic distraction, like a carnival sideshow attraction....See the Siamese Twins, See the Two Headed Dog, See Sarah Palin....what will she say....it will surely be contraversial.....
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While listening to the radio today, there was an article discussed about a older man who has heart and lung trouble. His doctor suggested he get the H1N1 vaccine, however the patient has to get approval from the Health Dept in their area before this man received the shot (the doctor only had 3 vaccines). The man went to the Health Dept and they told him NO. The shot should go to pregnant women and children. THIS EXAMPLE IS RATIONING AND A FORM OF DEATH PANEL. The Gov't DECIDED that this man couldn't get the shot, directly DICTATING what he is allowed or not allowed to have contracting his doctor.

FACT.

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Go Blue wrote:
Seems Palin has become kind of a comedic distraction, like a carnival sideshow attraction....See the Siamese Twins, See the Two Headed Dog, See Sarah Palin....what will she say....it will surely be contraversial.....
And it cracks me up every time the left goes nuts over her :)
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