Adoption agencies hit tough times too

Adoption agencies hit tough times too

There are 39 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Jan 15, 2009, titled Adoption agencies hit tough times too. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

With any luck, Valerie Adriense and her husband will have a third addition to their family, an adopted daughter from Nepal.

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Since: Oct 08

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#21 Jan 15, 2009
LawMichigander wrote:
Ok there are children right here in Michigan in foster care up for adoption for are free. But white Michiganders don't want to adopt a black baby or a poor white american child, no they would prefer spending $25 for an overseas asian baby. Interesting. 25$k for fees my ****. That is a criminal trade based on vile overt racism.
I'm probably wrong, but I didn't think white families could adopt black kids and visa-versa. Something to do with, not learning their cultural stuff?

I was however surprised at the amount of older 14+ kids. That would be hard to deal with, they've already had a rough life and they're right at that snotty teenage age. Yikes!
Sam

Montague, MI

#22 Jan 16, 2009
wzombiegrl wrote:
<quoted text>I'm probably wrong, but I didn't think white families could adopt black kids and visa-versa. Something to do with, not learning their cultural stuff?
I was however surprised at the amount of older 14+ kids. That would be hard to deal with, they've already had a rough life and they're right at that snotty teenage age. Yikes!
It used to be true that white families could not adopt a black child, but that is not the case anymore. White's and Black's alike can adopt any child of any race. But there are people out there that want to adopt the same race or skin color that they are to make it easier on them. I personally don't care what the race or skin color is of the child... we are adopting children of all races and genders. We currently have 1 white child and 1 black and plan on adopting more.
And on it goes

Grand Haven, MI

#23 Jan 16, 2009
LawMichigander wrote:
Don't you dare bring abortion into this. How dare you vile person use your racism to support what you mention. The lord wonders why you cast your eyes over a innocent child right here to spend so much to adopt overseas, the Lord is not fooled Sir. If it is obvious to us then it is known to him. The foster care system in Michigan is the 2nd worst rated in that nation with children dying in foster care like Ricky Holland was, that was not his mother that killed him you know but a vile person. The Lord would have you suffer no child rather than cast over one in the community. You have no idea what is like to be one of those children for but even a week. You feel totally valueless and worth dirt and people make sure you know it. I still bare the scares from those vile two faced foster workers and fake right wing christian foster parents.
Sounds like you have issues.

Amazing how people can USE the Lord and say what He's thinking. You have no idea how the LORD is judging any of us.
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Grand Haven, MI

#24 Jan 16, 2009
Now, to separate from that "vileness" above...

I went through this same agency several years ago, and I did have many bumps in the road, but in the end, not only did I get the most beautiful, perfect child I could hope for, I got to see another country and its wonderful people.

I also saw poverty we can't even IMAGINE, not in this country.

I wish the best for AAI and their clients. The agency is (or was, and it's awful that they've lost half the people) full of people who know what we're going through, and know how to make the process easier.
Irritated

Portage, MI

#25 Jan 16, 2009
Do not feel sorry for this agency. They prey on people's desire to have a child and there is no way they can be considered a not-for-profit agency. They (and I'm sure other agencies) charge an astronomical amount of money--$8000 of which is considered "administrative fees." Yes, they are very good at matching birthmoms with parents, but they do not care about much of anything except for getting money in their pockets. There should be laws and regulations for the adoption agencies. It is a shame it has to be so outragously expensive when there are good families willing to adopt and can't afford it. I'd adopt again in a heartbeat, but I can't afford to.

Since: Oct 08

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#26 Jan 16, 2009
Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
It used to be true that white families could not adopt a black child, but that is not the case anymore. White's and Black's alike can adopt any child of any race. But there are people out there that want to adopt the same race or skin color that they are to make it easier on them. I personally don't care what the race or skin color is of the child... we are adopting children of all races and genders. We currently have 1 white child and 1 black and plan on adopting more.
Thanks Sam, I wasn't sure if that was still true or not. I really wouldn't care if they were purple with pink polka dots, if I wanted to adopt.
luvthesun

Holland, MI

#27 Jan 17, 2009
DogGone wrote:
Unless, of course, you pet is your "baby". If you have ever refered to your dog/cat/rabbit as such...then your too far gone to reach with common sense.
I am very well rounded individual with a dog, two cats and a daughter (YES A HUMAN CHILD). All of them are my "babies." YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF SOME COMMON SENSE! Any living breathing thing deserves a chances whether is be an animal, reptile, fish, child....anything! I think maybe us HUMANS need to step up to the plate and take some responsibilty for the extra lives born-animal or human! IT'S CALLED BIRTH CONTROL!!! And c-snip they will spay/neuter for rather cheap amounts.
luvthesun

Holland, MI

#28 Jan 17, 2009
DogGone wrote:
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Quite simply this my fellow topix poster Mickell:
There are those who would so quickly come to the rescue of a "dog/cat/or animal of any kind" and wail for their rescue from a shelter or pound.
Topic is: Adoption Agencies hit hard!
Yet when it's about an actual human, the response is "ehh,,,sorry can't help".
O'K to pay for vet bills, food, training, rawhide, catnip on so on,,,, but not so much when it comes to a human child. Sad.
Does it occur to you at all that this ignorance is caused by humans!?! When it comes to animals in shelters, most shelters do not keep them until somebody adopts them, they just kill them to make more room for more human ignorance. Please tell me the last time a child was born and a week later euthanized!!!!! Have you ever looked at how many pets are put down a day, month, year.....Please tell me! For just minute open your eyes and heart and shut your mouth and just think of the uses pets have.
TrollSpotter

Madison, WI

#29 Jan 17, 2009
I love your passion!! Wow, a true believer to a cause. Now, divert that passion from ANIMALS for just a moment or 2,,,,and yes they are great in their own right, but a HUMAN life is worth just a tiny bit more don't you think?? Take that passion and save a Child. Save a human baby with those dollars you spend by writing a check to " Save-a-Dog.com "
luvthesun wrote:
<quoted text>
Does it occur to you at all that this ignorance is caused by humans!?! When it comes to animals in shelters, most shelters do not keep them until somebody adopts them, they just kill them to make more room for more human ignorance. Please tell me the last time a child was born and a week later euthanized!!!!! Have you ever looked at how many pets are put down a day, month, year.....Please tell me! For just minute open your eyes and heart and shut your mouth and just think of the uses pets have.
luvthesun

Holland, MI

#30 Jan 18, 2009
TrollSpotter wrote:
I love your passion!! Wow, a true believer to a cause. Now, divert that passion from ANIMALS for just a moment or 2,,,,and yes they are great in their own right, but a HUMAN life is worth just a tiny bit more don't you think?? Take that passion and save a Child. Save a human baby with those dollars you spend by writing a check to " Save-a-Dog.com "
<quoted text>
I almost think some money that is being donated towards kids should actually go to birth control for the people that continue to have these kids, but nowhere to put them! Looking at the economy right now I think I will keep my money for my own husand, child, dog and cats....sorry to be selfish there, but I do live in MICHIGAN.
Kids first

United States

#31 Jan 18, 2009
This is about kids not animals. Kids that live without homes, regarless of what country they are from. The fees that adoption agencies charge cover their expenses and that is it, they operate as non-profit organizations and are not allowed to profit from their activities. Adoption Associates is a great agency and a wonderful caring group of people...I know, we've worked with them and never felt in any way that we have been taken advantage of.
Tin Star

Denver, CO

#32 Jan 18, 2009
We are a multi racial family with both a successful international aadoption and a local adoption through the foster care system. Five kids, 3 dogs and a cat too! It would be great if we could all open our hearts and our homes to all kids. hard work and lots of love is all it takes.

Since: Oct 08

Denver, CO

#33 Jan 18, 2009
Tin Star wrote:
We are a multi racial family with both a successful international adoption and a local adoption through the foster care system. Five kids, 3 dogs and a cat too! It would be great if we could all open our hearts and our homes to all kids. hard work and lots of love is all it takes.
Unfortunately, not everyone thinks as you do .. it takes special people to embark on such an undertaking .. you happen to fit the mold .. Good Luck and much success to you and your family ..
Really

San Jose, CA

#34 Jan 20, 2009
Birth parents don't have a year to change their mind...they have until they go to court.

I believe that Shame on you is talking about foster children. But I agree it is completely up to the couple adopting on where they choose to go.
No Idea wrote:
Shame on you,
Are you aware that in this country (US) that
1.) It cost's sometimes up to THREE times as much to adopt domestically (that means here if you did not know)
2.) That birth parents have up to a year to change their mind, and get the child back.
3.) Are you aware of the wait in the United States can be 3-6 years or more??
I agree with MYOB. Unless you yourself have adopted here, who are you to talk, judge, or comment??
Proud woman who cannot conceive and has EVERY intention on a foreign adoption!

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

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#35 Jan 20, 2009
DogGone wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite simply this my fellow topix poster Mickell:
There are those who would so quickly come to the rescue of a "dog/cat/or animal of any kind" and wail for their rescue from a shelter or pound.
Topic is: Adoption Agencies hit hard!
Yet when it's about an actual human, the response is "ehh,,,sorry can't help".
O'K to pay for vet bills, food, training, rawhide, catnip on so on,,,, but not so much when it comes to a human child. Sad.
How in the world can you compare adopting an animal to a human? An animal has very basic needs: food, shelter, love, proper vet care.

A human needs food, love, shelter, medical care, emotional care, guidance, direction, schooling, taught right from wrong, molded to become a productive member of our society, a college fund, taught a work ethic, and a million other things I am sure I am forgetting to mention.

You are trying to compare apples to oranges. Get a life.
Adoption Professional

Holland, MI

#36 Jan 20, 2009
To those of you adopting domestically or internationally, I hope all goes well for you. As an adoptive parent and an adoption professional, I know it is not about race. It is simply a desire to have a child or another child. Please don't be discouraged by the ignorant comments of the few uninformed! To those ignorant uninformed, there are many factors that go into the high cost of adoption. An agency like AAI receives $3-5,000 for the services they provide in an international adoption. The rest is fees paid to the governments of both countries involved and to those in the country providing adoption and legal services. Nobody is getting rich from these adoptions, and precious children are given hope of a future they otherwise would not have! Please do a little more research before making such ignorant and uniformed comments!
Jen

Roy, WA

#37 Jan 22, 2009
My husband and I are now in the process of switching from AAI to another agency. We are also in the process of finishing up our home study done through DHS as a licensed resource home for foster care. It wasn't as hard to switch agency as AAI made it out to be. Granted we are in the domestic program, which makes it a little less complicated. As soon as we received the first letter in the mail, I jumped on it and make phone calls to a lot of different agencies and I got other options. Just and idea ... but check other agencies out.
friend of adopter

Detroit, MI

#38 Jan 24, 2009
All the comments about whether or not to adopt internationally get off the subject, and in this case there is really no time to lose.

What those affected really need is unbiased media scrutiny (not the agency's talking points, as in this article), legal help, and greater honesty from the agency. We, the friends and families being asked to contribute charitable funds, are horrified by what looks like extortion (financial, emotional). The economy is in terrible shape, no doubt about that, but something here really does not smell right. You don't give people less than two weeks to find $1,000 (more following that) or drop them and keep all the money they have paid thus far. It is a very tragic situation and tremendously unfair to the families who signed up with this agency.

Perhaps the state attorney general's office is already involved. If not, it would certainly be a good idea.
Mike

Brentwood, TN

#39 Jan 24, 2009
You don't understand. Most couples would prefer to adopt domestically, but most states, including Michigan allow for natural parents taking the kids back. Int'l parents don't face this.

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