Board overturns salary decision for supervisor

There are 78 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Sep 22, 2008, titled Board overturns salary decision for supervisor. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

A change of heart has occurred in Ottawa County's Georgetown Township. Dale Mohr ran as the Republican candidate during the primaries and won the spot for the incoming supervisor position.

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Karla

Macomb, MI

#62 Sep 28, 2008
"Internet" had better watch what lies he/she posts. I know Nicole and her husband personally, and they are good, hardworking people. I called them to checkout your smears. Nicole stated, and the internet confirms, their taxes are current, and Glowing Soul is registered. Nicoleadnmitted she did not vote in Aug. because she made an unexpected trip to Ohio, and it was too late to get an absentee ballot. "Internet" had better be careful because IP addresses are traceable, and your abominable lies could be grounds for a slander lawsuit. You certainly must be a miserable hateful person to make up such scandalous accusations about a qualified person who has stepped forward to help this township get straightened around and clear the air of controversy. Maybe you should check out Nicole's campaign flyer that is being distributed throughout the township. As far as Rick Wilson, he apparently has a problem sticking to the facts that matter and reporting them accurately. The GR Press should definitely find a replacement for Rick Wilson before they lose more subcribers.
Nicole Geerts

Grandville, MI

#63 Sep 28, 2008
crash wrote:
one wonders what qualifications Mrs. Geerts has to presume she would be a good canidate?
ill assume her non-relation (her younger sister is married to Bill Holland Jr) to Bill Holland Sr. is meaningless.
But what makes her think she has the talent and qualifications to run a township? What's her background in, what jobs has she had? has she run a business? has she been a manager of some type?
I would love to answer all your questions. Please go to my website for more information www.nicolegeerts.com . I will also be at Hagar Park on Wednesday, October 15 from 6-8 pm to make a speech and answer questions.

I am very qualified to hold the position of Supervisor. Unfortunatley, due to the aggressive nature of the other side, I have to be careful with what I share publicly. Please call me if you have some issues you would like to discuss or questions relating to the Township. Thank you for your thoughtful questions.

Nicole
Nicole Geerts

Grandville, MI

#64 Sep 28, 2008
Seriously Though wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, I did what was asked and went and looked at Nicole's website. I read what was available there, looking to learn more about her. Could she possibly be any more incredibly non-specific?
Don't get me wrong, I agree with Dale that he's NOT qualified to do the Supervisor's position as it's been done. When I compare him to Bill though, I think that only makes him honest about his skills. After all, Bill STILL thinks he's qualified, even after the primary voters said 'enough'.(Que Barry......err Cujo....attacking this post with stats on registered voters versus those who actually vote in primaries)
So let's turn to Nicole as a write in then. If she wants my vote though, I NEED specificity. Please Nicole, tell me what education & experience, SPECIFICALLY, you have that qulifies you to be a township supervisor....to lead a staff of dozens, to manage a multi-million dollar budget, to answer to tens of thousands of residents, and to advance Georgetown to all it's capable of. I LOVE this township and only want the best for it. Soooooo........if you're qualified, lay it out for us. Don't use generic terms and vague experiences........tell us what qualifies you! I'm eager here to cast my vote, now convince me! I may not be able to get you elected myself, but I could probably swing a few dozen votes your way if you truly have the qualifications. Most people I know, like me, just want to elect somebody to serve us who we feel is more qualified than ourselves to do the job. In the absence of that person, I'm happy to take the next best alternative, even if that means a Township Manager.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I have to be careful with the information and details I share due to the agressive nature of this campaign. If you have specific questions related to my experience and my goals for the Township, please email me or call me. I would be happy to share that.

Nicole
Nicole Geerts

Grandville, MI

#65 Sep 28, 2008
Please let's try to stick to the real issues at hand. We all know what Dr. Mohr has to offer and what his intentions are for Georgetown Township. I have entered the race because I believe the residents need a qualified and energetic individual to improve communication with the board and preserve the safe community we have all enjoyed for so long.

Georgetown Township is at a critical point in time with the completion of the on and off ramps in 2009, the liquor issue, our growing senior population, jobs in short supply and people struggling to pay their bills. As a lifelong resident with small children, I have a personal stake at protecting the community I love. I have the job experience, business degree with a minor in economics plus 38 additional credits toward a second degree, and have an accounting business registered with the State since 1997. For fun, I teach yoga to benefit the Jenison community. I have a Fed. tax ID number for that business. My property taxes have always been paid on time.

Most importantly, I am a Christian who believes in doing what is right. I am honest to a fault, tenacious and relentless in my pursuit of a goal. My beliefs are conservative and common sense. This is not about my ego. With the negative attacks from both sides, we are losing site of what's really important, the democratic process and preserving our community.

On Wednesday, October 16 from 6-8 pm, I will be at the brick building in Hagar Park. There will be a short speech and plenty of time to ask questions. Everyone is welcome.

I invite all of you to visit my website as it is regularly updated by me www.nicolegeerts.com . There is a link to my email if anyone has specific questions regarding my qualifications or goals as a Township Supervisor. My phone number is also in the phone book if that is a more convenient method of communication.

It is inspiring to see so many people passionate about our Township. Let's keep it positive, factual and productive. Thank you!

Nicole
Nicole Geerts

Grandville, MI

#66 Sep 29, 2008
Meet with me at Hagar Park on Wednesday, October 15 from 6-8 pm in the brick building. There will be a short speech at 7 pm with plenty of time allowed for questions relevant to the issues of the Township. If you are unable to join us, please visit my website www.nicolegeerts.com or call me - my number is in the phone book.

Thanks,

Nicole
hunter

Grand Rapids, MI

#67 Sep 29, 2008
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when is there a prerequisite of being in politics?
Well, it looks like everyone else involved has been. I just was curious if she has been on other boards or commissions? If so, how did she do? That might show she understands how the township government works, etc.
choosing to be informed

Ypsilanti, MI

#68 Sep 29, 2008
Thank You Nicole for putting yourself out there. It is really hard to stay focused on the real campaign issues due to all the "drive-by" reporting going on. I'll be there!
choosing to be informed

Ypsilanti, MI

#69 Sep 29, 2008
hunter wrote:
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Well, it looks like everyone else involved has been. I just was curious if she has been on other boards or commissions? If so, how did she do? That might show she understands how the township government works, etc.
Are you alluding to Scholma's claim that she is qualified to be on the Board because "she has been at every meeting" (gazing at her savior)? Or to Mohr, an experienced politician with NO accomplishments in all his years of (self) "service"? Or Tuttle, with his obvious benefits (conflict of interest) to being on the Board due to his Sunset employment? Elementary lust. Just keep waggin' your finger!
hunter

Grand Rapids, MI

#70 Sep 29, 2008
choosing to be informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you alluding to Scholma's claim that she is qualified to be on the Board because "she has been at every meeting" (gazing at her savior)? Or to Mohr, an experienced politician with NO accomplishments in all his years of (self) "service"? Or Tuttle, with his obvious benefits (conflict of interest) to being on the Board due to his Sunset employment? Elementary lust. Just keep waggin' your finger!
Actually, I'm not. I was just asking a simple question. What has her involvement been with the township? Has she learned anything through it (good or bad)? Has anyone seen her in action? How active has she been in the community? Does she know anything about township government/governance?

Does anyone really know anything about her, or is everyone just playing "gotcha"?
short man

Macomb, MI

#71 Sep 29, 2008
hunter wrote:
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What has her involvement been with the township? Has she learned anything through it (good or bad)? Has anyone seen her in action? How active has she been in the community? Does she know anything about township government/governance?
What's your problem man? Do you know anything about Mohr?? Maybe the fact that only 1 of his neighbors signed his petition to run for Supervisor speaks the loudest about him. After all, he says he's lived there for 46 years, so wouldn't you think he could've gotten more than just ONE neighbor to sign?? Maybe the fact that no one can name a single thing he's done for the township in the 40+ years he's "sat" in office speaks even louder about him and his work ethic. All we know about Dale is that he was a dentist years ago but nothing about the quality of his work. We know he's been elected about 10 times, sat in office for over 4 decades, and knows how to use discord to win elections. There are many who also know that Dale is suffering the health consequences of a lifetime of heavy smoking which will affect his ability to work full time and may also cause periods absentism. To his credit, Mohr probably knows Parliamentary procedure quite well just like anyone who's served on consistory in the local churches, but that doesn't make them qualified to serve or lead the township government.

The township needs someone with knowledge of accounting, business procedures, managing a staff and with a desire to serve the people with positive ideas. What we don't need is more controversy which is what Dale will bring because he's not qualified and needs to proceed with the manager that will create BIG problems because he does not have the majority behind him. I suggest you contact Dale and challenge him about his plan and especially how he plans to pay for everything or solve the latest sewer problems or industrial noise problems.

If you're comfortable with Mohr, fine, but if you want more information, I suggest you start your research at Nicole Geerts' website. If you need more information, then she invites you to email her, call her, or attend the meeting she has announced. It looks like she is doing far more to let the people know her qualifications for the job and what she plans to do for the community.

It's your responsibility to be an informed voter. So dig in and stop throwing out innuendoes or are you trying to play "gotcha"?
not ngeerts

Detroit, MI

#72 Sep 29, 2008
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/story.aspx...

I am deeply disturbed by all the aggressive comments and personal attacks on Bill Holland and his family--under the guise of "anonymous." We live in a democracy and we all had to chance to vote for the person we wanted, this does not give us the right to publicly slander and attack an individual or their family. Dale Mohr did not answer when questioned about his proposed $81,000 salary. Without ONE reason to support Mohr's proposal, the board took Mohr's word that he would lower his salary to $15,000 WHEN he took office NOT IF a manager was hired. If Mohr wanted to rescind on his campaign promise, he should have supported his $81,000 salary proposal when asked prior to the vote. This has NOTHING to do with Bill Holland OR his family.

I live in Georgetown, work in Georgetown and my children go to school there. We have a church on nearly every corner and I'll bet most of these anonymous postings are from individuals who have ties to these churches. I am ashamed that my so-called Christian neighbors would behave so terribly in a public forum toward one of our own. If you don't want anyone to know what you're saying and submitting anonymously--perhaps you should keep it to yourself.

Dale Mohr is a big boy and he can take care of himself. There can always be another vote when Mohr decides to justify rescinding his campaign promise.

Please be reasonable, know the facts and sign your name if it's important enough to make a public statement.

Nicole Geerts
not ngeerts

Detroit, MI

#73 Sep 29, 2008
see second page in comments : http://www.wzzm13.com/news/story.aspx...

I second Nicole's sentiments:

I live in Georgetown, work in Georgetown and my children go to school there. We have a church on nearly every corner and I'll bet most of these anonymous postings are from individuals who have ties to these churches. I am ashamed that my so-called Christian neighbors would behave so terribly in a public forum toward one of our own. If you don't want anyone to know what you're saying and submitting anonymously--perhaps you should keep it to yourself.
stop your crying

Dorr, MI

#74 Sep 30, 2008
why are these two separated?
FYI-hold on to your signs

Ypsilanti, MI

#75 Oct 1, 2008
Dang It!!! I was wondering when that would happen again! I lost my sign. This summer I lost my sign, in fact, the whole neighborhood had their signs stolen and replaced by Mohr, Scholma, & Tuttle, Holst, & Batts signs (without solicited permission/support). We just thought it was some very busy kids, until it happened to some friends in another neighborhood, and some businesses/property. Guess NOT!! Dale, if were such a stellar candidate, you wouldn't have to resort to Mohr dirty politics.
Resident of Georgetown

Holland, MI

#76 Oct 6, 2008
Nicole: I am disappointed by your campaign. If you are such a qualified person, then why didn't you get your name on the ballot. You had plenty of time, not just one day, so if you were out of town, that doesn't count. Unless you have been out of town since April.

I have 2 issues with your brochure.

1. so what if Dale Mohr worships at Calvary? Many people do, including me. Does that mean that I would not make a good candidate because I worship at a church on the other side of the city?

2. WE CANNOT help anyone during the elections. You stated that if you need help just ask. Well, if you are running for an elected official, you above all people should know that that is illegal. I am a Chairperson at the elections for Georgetown and we cannot help anyone with any questions on the ballot. we cannot give advice and we cannot tell them how to put a write in or that the write-in name has to be spelled exactly to be counted. So once they get there, your people had better know what to do.(just to be fair, I wouldn't be able to tell them how to spell Mohr either if he was a write-in).
Resident of Georgetown

Holland, MI

#77 Oct 6, 2008
I found your website and I'm concerned about how you are already mis-leading the public regarding how to vote for you.

1. You cannot place a sticker on the ballot and expect that to count. that will cause the ballot to jam and create quite a backlog in getting people through to vote for more important issues.

2. You cannot ask for help in how to place a write-in candidate.

Please don't frustrate your consituants and don't mis-lead them.
short man

Macomb, MI

#78 Oct 7, 2008
Resident of Georgetown wrote:
Nicole: I am disappointed by your campaign. If you are such a qualified person, then why didn't you get your name on the ballot.

I have 2 issues with your brochure.
1. so what if Dale Mohr worships at Calvary? Many people do, including me.
2. WE CANNOT help anyone during the elections. You stated that if you need help just ask. that is illegal.- I am a Chairperson at the elections for Georgetown and we cannot help anyone with any questions on the ballot.- how to put a write in or that the write-in name has to be spelled exactly to be counted.
Most of what you have written here is misleading with a hint of bias.

As a GT resident, I am sorry that you, as Chairperson, don't seem to understand Michigan's election laws yet have a job working at the polls. I learned way back in 9th grade Civics class about write-in candidates and the responsibility of poll workers - a required class in Michigan when I went to school. FYI - Plainfield & Alpine Townships also have a write-in candidates this fall.) I hope you will review your responsibilities as an election worker and check out write-in candidacy which is clearly listed as an option on the ballot.

After the games Mohr played with Georgetown along and his post-election admission that he's not qualified to do the job, I'd say the residents are lucky that N. Geerts has stepped forward to offer her services. She's very qualified for the job, and even though she didn't follow your rigid election rules for becoming a candidate, Michigan law allows her to run for Supervisor as a write-in candidate. Surely, you must know that NO ONE expected Mohr to win.

1. Your criticism of Geerts' flyer seems petty especially since Dale Mohr openly advertised that he worships at Calvary Church on his own political papers and Advance ads and always has each time he's run for office over the past 40 years. Would you preferred that N. Geerts had followed Dale's campaign model by writing statements on her flyer similar to the following: "My opponent is desperately trying to ....", or "I have been the overseer of millions, but my opponent ....", or "I have managed a large staff, but my opponent...". I'm sure you will agree that we've had enough of that, so I'm glad her flyer has a positive message with her skills and what she plans to do for the community.

2. FYI - After reading your entry here, I called Krueger's office in Grand Haven for clarification on what poll workers can do. You are allowed to answer questions regarding parts of the ballot such as: where to vote for township offices, where a candidate appears on the ballot, where is the blank line for write-in, how to put their ballot in the scanner, etc. As an election worker, you are paid to assist the voter with the ballot and not just stand/sit there for the day.

The county clerk's office also told me there is some flexibility in the spelling for a write-in candidate - Nicole Geerts, N. Geerts, etc. because she is a registered write-in candidate. FYI - using a a sticker for a write-in candidate is suggested on Michigan's own website, which you should know requires special handling for that ballot.

Most voters will arrive harried before or after work, under pressure of time, will not have seen any ballot before it is presented to them at the polls, and feel pressure because of their long wait in line or those waiting behind them. It might be a good idea for you to re-read your manual or seek clarification for your responsibilities as Chairperson at the elections. I hope you will be earning your pay assisting voters and make sure this a fair election.
Truth on Nicole Geerts

Ann Arbor, MI

#79 Nov 5, 2008
I have known Nicole Geerts the past 15 years and I'm thrilled to find that she was defeated. She does have flaws that might not surface in the real world: she is an extremely negative person, has a lack of personal money management, deals with health issues and is not a team player at all. I would be very nervous to have her represent Georgetown Township in the future. Nicole tries to portray herself as a "people person" who would get our township back on track but I would be very nervous with her lack of people skills and money management. Just my opinion but in the real world we need someone who is a good positive role model with good morals and she lacks both.

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