Tribe plans $20 million casino at Akela Flats

The forerunner to a planned 11,000-square-foot casino is under construction about 18 miles east of Deming, according to Fort Sill Chiricahua Apache tribe consultant Denis Floge. Full Story
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Clare Alexander May

Columbus, NM

#23 Jan 27, 2008
Hey! StopTAGGINGourWALLS and everyone else!

I just thought of something!

Since I have been told by the State Mobile home Inspector that you cannot legally place trailers next to each other... and in the very recent past that same inspector condemmed the very same thing in New Mexico...

and... with Luna County Resolution 08-10 just passed by the Current Luna County Commissioners this month... The Luna County Commission may be able to get Luna Counties fingers into the jackpots of this casino after all or even delay the construction of the entire project!

RESOLUTION 08-10 "Relocation Assistance by the Demolition of Housing or by the Conversion of that Dwelling to Another Use".

Just think the county can refuse occupancy permits and attempt to shut the thing down... Bulldoze the trailer thingy they got going out there... then sink all our taxdollars into building a 10 million dollar casino to replace the trailers they destroy!

Yea... Yea... I know... I over thought it...:)
Happy Trails

Albuquerque, NM

#24 Jan 27, 2008
Mr. May,

Strange things taking place here. I have posted a reply to your reply twice now and it keeps getting bumped. I had noticed prior to my posting of the messages that there was a warning in red type stating for me not to use ''profanity'', however there was no profanity included in either posts. The only thing I can think of is that the correct name of the Cult of which the story was based on is somehow considered to be profanity by this site, because just as with this post here I get the red warning when I include it, and it goes away when I do not. Strange to say the least.
At any rate it was not the Rainbow and the town was up in Oregon, Antelope. Sorry I cannot supply the name of the Cult, apparently.

Art
stopTAGGING ourWALLS

Albuquerque, NM

#25 Jan 27, 2008
Clare...not sure of specific law, however, I think those laws pertain to single family, mobile or manufactured homes intended for permanent, human habitat.

Laws and codes, different among New Mexico counties, such as to septic tanks, relative to how many bedrooms, not how many people live or occupy the dwelling. Silly qualifiers like that.

Being that it is an Indian casino, and not a residence, there are probably many variances and looking the other way to ensure that this outfit gets into place to start with.

After it becomes profitable and the money is rolling in, their future is ensured by money rolling out.

And all Sunland Park can do is adapt and become more competitive, as they currently have no gaming competition from there to Ruidoso.
Clare Alexander May

Columbus, NM

#26 Jan 27, 2008
stopTAGGINFourWALLS,

Of course that was the part I was eluding too... You can buy a double wide... but not join two singlewides... even if the property owner takes precautions and fortifies the buildings to prevent structural failure.

I was being sarcastic... Its just my opinion that the County has negative approach to anything with private property lately... and laws that prohibit one class of people but the same law does not apply to all.

The casino will bring jobs to Luna County... Jobs that Luna County has failed to bring without taxing. A casino "IS NOT" what the county manager wanted to see come here.... He eluded to this some time ago. I can only summerize that there was no money in the Counties coffers over its inception...

With the jobs this casino will make, the money they earn will be spent, in the local area... if it is successful,(It will be), and they promote the winners or sponser a tournament such as the World Series of Poker. Of course they have to get to the point of card tables instead of the quarter slots...

In as far as my only concern, will this business increase crimes? I don't think it actually will as I am sure the owners will have their own security. I believe it will get more traffic off the interstate and more out of State money.
Fernando Rodriguez

New York, NY

#27 Feb 4, 2008
Clare Alexander May wrote:
Hey! StopTAGGINGourWALLS and everyone else!
I just thought of something!
Since I have been told by the State Mobile home Inspector that you cannot legally place trailers next to each other... and in the very recent past that same inspector condemmed the very same thing in New Mexico...
and... with Luna County Resolution 08-10 just passed by the Current Luna County Commissioners this month... The Luna County Commission may be able to get Luna Counties fingers into the jackpots of this casino after all or even delay the construction of the entire project!
RESOLUTION 08-10 "Relocation Assistance by the Demolition of Housing or by the Conversion of that Dwelling to Another Use".
Just think the county can refuse occupancy permits and attempt to shut the thing down... Bulldoze the trailer thingy they got going out there... then sink all our taxdollars into building a 10 million dollar casino to replace the trailers they destroy!
Yea... Yea... I know... I over thought it...:)
All this is for residential not bus-y-nassss! "Park them trailers over there!" "Right up next to eachother! Ya, that's the way you do it. Just nice and easy!"
Rudy of Deming

San Francisco, CA

#28 Feb 8, 2008
Hey Happy Trails and Fred, Both your points are so so true. And to say our Mr. Deming Mayor, Is an Honest Christian Minister/Mayor..HMMM? He is
using his position/authority to tax write offs by
putting his church smack in the middle of down town Deming along with many other church's. Yes, Deming is a great retirement town and the retirees have invested alot of money here. I only have a few more years before retirement. However not all retiree's like sitting at home, some like to get out to see movies, bowling, and do other entertainment. Deming back in the day of when the Mayor and his council were young at heart had alot of things to do when they were in school, from Kinder-High school. There was a drive-in theater, movie theater's not sure about bowling alley and much more to do. I've talked to some to some of the Home grown Old timers Of
Deming, and they told me how Deming was back in the day; the youngster (and older adults) were able to do things in town. Kids didnt get so much in trouble, why Cuz there were things for them to do. Now all the kids do is get involved in drugs, our luna county/city schools are so damn infested with drugs that Mr. Mayor and his council havent done anything about that. Yes the day (if that ever comes) that we do have something to do for our young ones to do (movie theater, bowling alley, teen community club, for after school and wkends and summmer).. if we were to have all this now what good would it do? None at all except having another place for drug involvement. Heck young Families cant even afford to take there kids to the Baca Swimming Pool in the summer, SHHEEEESH, there prices are so freaking outragous for a few hours of playing in the water, cost more per centage wise to use the pool then what it cost to go to a Water Theme Park. So what can we expect for the Luna County/City Goverment? When it comes to re-election, just do not re-elect any of them, we need a new Mayor and council. OH ONE LAST THING, about all the money Deming/Luna county is losing cause of OUR LOCAL GOVT, We are losing thousands and thousands and thounds to EL Paso and CRUCES. The FEDERAL GOVT has hired so many new agents, once they see what Deming has to offer they move out of TOWN to Cruces or El Paso. NUMBER #1 REASON IS THE DRUG INFESTED SCHOOLS and nothing for the young families to do. AGAIN lots of MONEY Leaving DEMING.
Rudy
spc wayne matulle

Douglasville, GA

#29 Feb 10, 2008
i am finish
Happy Trails

Albuquerque, NM

#30 Feb 12, 2008
Greetings Rudy!
Thank you for getting in here and I hope others follow. All of your many points are well taken and are in fact I believe held by many! You speak of the old Deming,a Deming of a different time and of different minds. Sadly Rudy few kids of today,as the kids just prior to them have experienced anything close as to how Deming used to be. Deming as too is Columbus are virtually paradise forsaken at the hands of the greedy, and that of a community so beaten down by these power hungry few that they fail to find their legs to stand, and to right the mess. Instead they drag themselves off to jobs that pay less today than most people were being paid in the 60's, or sit at home awaiting the handout of state and federal money...to exist. We have some of the finest and purest water to be found anywhere in the world, and what have these power crazed and greedy people done with it? First they dumped chlorine in it, and then they built a gas fired plant to burn the rest up with.
You are so right when you state that these people need to be thrown out, and replaced with folks that think of their neighbors, or the community instead of their own pocketbook or dim-sighted views which only include that of their buddies, cronies. You are right again about the fed agents choosing to live in LC or El Paso, and to spend their money there. Sadly Rudy nothing is really going to change for the better here until people find their legs, backbone and a true desire to have a better life for themselves and for their children. First and foremost on that mission is to rid Co. of the local propaganda rag called the ''headlight'' of the lazy and controlled people who currently run it. That is the first step to rid us of the controlling bunch now in power, to have a free press to get the truth out to the readership!

Art

“Get over yourself...”

Since: Jan 08

You're not that important

#31 Feb 12, 2008
Rudy of Deming wrote:
Congrat's on the casio, It will be a success. I will be one to support you and the tribe; so will the by-passser, ie. truckers and tourist. As stated: This time the "Politico's" of Deming and Luna County have a say on this one, Eat your hearts out! Finally the sleepy town of Deming and Luna county will wake up and come to life. Take my word on this one. Once the Casino start's making good money, Luna County Council is going to want a share of it. Heck we cant even get a small movie theater or bowling alley built in this town. So I plan to spend my entertainment money else where (some at the casion).
Who got a casio?
greg

Albuquerque, NM

#32 Feb 20, 2008
Fred wrote:
I've lived here now for 7 years. When I moved here and one of the reasons I made the decision to move here was that there was a Wal Mart and a movie theater/bowling alley were going to be built. Well Wal Mart was built within I believe 8 months and for some odd reason the movie theater/bowling alley is still in the works. Now I'm not a buisness man or do I claim to be, but how can it take 7 years to get a a project completed. I almost thought that a new mayor would help, but still we are waiting. How smart do you have to be to realize how much money is leaving this county and town. My family and I spend at least two to three hundred dollars on either driving to Las Cruces or settling on watching a movie from the one Movie Gallery in town (If there are any). There is many other things that me and my family could do besides watch movies or go bowling and we do try to do them, but between friends birthdays, their birthdays and the limited activities available it can be a little overwelming. The main reason I am writing is to find out what exactly is going on with this town and how can I get involved.
The "new" mayor has thrown his lot in the "old" guard of cronies...we all know who they are...if you want Deming to change, throw the bums out next election...in other words, actually think about who you vote for and please learn how to sometimes vote outside of your party, whether or not you are Dem, Rep, or Independant...when there are good balances of power, then you see compromise. As it stands now, we have only one party controlling the entire state...could that be why, for example, that for every 2 dollars the State of New Mexico receives from the Federal Govt...it only sends 1 dollar back? Or in other words....WELFARE STATE.
greg

Albuquerque, NM

#33 Feb 20, 2008
The Headlight is trying to be fair...and it is much better than it has ever been in the past few years...Example: having these online postings! It is not the fault of the Headlight that we have lazy and inexperienced people controlling our local city and county governments...it is the fault of all those citizens who continually and mindlessly elect and re-elect the same tired, worn out, foolish people over and over and over again.

Further, if more people would simply speak out against these people running the local govt, even that would bring change...Example: some spoke out against the foolishness occuring at the Chamber of Commerce and that forced them to hire an entirely new Director and Admin. Staff...so you see we can change Deming, but it will take courage to stand up for what you believe in.
Happy Trails wrote:
Greetings Rudy!
Thank you for getting in here and I hope others follow. All of your many points are well taken and are in fact I believe held by many! You speak of the old Deming,a Deming of a different time and of different minds. Sadly Rudy few kids of today,as the kids just prior to them have experienced anything close as to how Deming used to be. Deming as too is Columbus are virtually paradise forsaken at the hands of the greedy, and that of a community so beaten down by these power hungry few that they fail to find their legs to stand, and to right the mess. Instead they drag themselves off to jobs that pay less today than most people were being paid in the 60's, or sit at home awaiting the handout of state and federal money...to exist. We have some of the finest and purest water to be found anywhere in the world, and what have these power crazed and greedy people done with it? First they dumped chlorine in it, and then they built a gas fired plant to burn the rest up with.
You are so right when you state that these people need to be thrown out, and replaced with folks that think of their neighbors, or the community instead of their own pocketbook or dim-sighted views which only include that of their buddies, cronies. You are right again about the fed agents choosing to live in LC or El Paso, and to spend their money there. Sadly Rudy nothing is really going to change for the better here until people find their legs, backbone and a true desire to have a better life for themselves and for their children. First and foremost on that mission is to rid Co. of the local propaganda rag called the ''headlight'' of the lazy and controlled people who currently run it. That is the first step to rid us of the controlling bunch now in power, to have a free press to get the truth out to the readership!
Art
Clare Alexander May

Columbus, NM

#34 Feb 22, 2008
Hello Greg,

I am pleased with your response(s), but I will disagree with the Headlight being fair in the recent past. I agree that this new venue, through Topix, is quite a shock to me still as they have not attempted to stiffle out the messages being posted here.(I have had some posts never put on... makes me wonder why).

The Headlight is not fair in their dealing with news stories. They have picked and choosen what they print to the 34,000 or so people in Luna County get to read for the past 12 years I know of. They recently took steps to eleminate any negative posts in the Letters to the Editor forum, and advertised such intent. They have picked and chose political advertistments that run, they denyed me adds that I was willing to pay money for on at least two different occassions.

They, again the Headlight, have decided not to publish anything about my opposition that proves they are unworthy of that office as they violated federal election laws, specifically the Hatch Act in the last general election, even when provided proof of that violation.

Tell me Greg... How does my message get out there to the voter, when the press haas stiffled my efforts? How do you or anyone else for that matter get to the "other truths" as some may call them if the local paper will not publish any story about them?

How do we... the voters "get the bums out" ...if our own hometown paper refuses to touch anything that may soil the good old boys club?

I am open to suggestions...
Milly Piros Cleveland OH

AOL

#35 Feb 25, 2008
Great news! Now maybe someone will buy my Ranchettes ..(G)
greg

Albuquerque, NM

#36 Feb 26, 2008
Clare Alexander May wrote:
Hello Greg,
I am pleased with your response(s), but I will disagree with the Headlight being fair in the recent past. I agree that this new venue, through Topix, is quite a shock to me still as they have not attempted to stiffle out the messages being posted here.(I have had some posts never put on... makes me wonder why).
The Headlight is not fair in their dealing with news stories. They have picked and choosen what they print to the 34,000 or so people in Luna County get to read for the past 12 years I know of. They recently took steps to eleminate any negative posts in the Letters to the Editor forum, and advertised such intent. They have picked and chose political advertistments that run, they denyed me adds that I was willing to pay money for on at least two different occassions.
They, again the Headlight, have decided not to publish anything about my opposition that proves they are unworthy of that office as they violated federal election laws, specifically the Hatch Act in the last general election, even when provided proof of that violation.
Tell me Greg... How does my message get out there to the voter, when the press haas stiffled my efforts? How do you or anyone else for that matter get to the "other truths" as some may call them if the local paper will not publish any story about them?
How do we... the voters "get the bums out" ...if our own hometown paper refuses to touch anything that may soil the good old boys club?
I am open to suggestions...
Claire - good questions all? One possible way: create your own blog/website...as we can see, people love to post their opinions...

Regardless of how you do it...it will cost some money...

Finally, keep on with your message...in time you may find that it resonates fully with our blinded electorate. Good luck...Greg
Casino

Albuquerque, NM

#37 Feb 28, 2008
To MR. Happy Trails.

Do you have any idea what you are saying sir? How do you think you have power to run your computer? Do you think that lightning is harnessed in some way from the sky or that is made from dirt? You have some pretty good opinions, but this isnít one of them. The gas fired power plant that uses our water, just happens to be one of the most efficient per gallon of water, BTU and environmentally in the country. Itís not as clean as wind generation or solar energy, but there are ramping issues with wind and solar generation. The grid that the gas fired plant supports doesnít work the way you might think. Itís not a battery that is charged and can be drawn from. The ramping capability of a gas fired plant is ideal to support the needs of the power grid that you draw from to run your computer, lights, microwave, television and so forth.
The Natural gas that is burned burns cleaner than other fossil fuels used to create combustion needed to power generators that produce electricity. The exhaust heat is then used in heat transfer boiler. The boiler produces steam which is used to power a steam driven turbine and generator. This steam is then condensed and recycled through the boiler again.

If you had any idea what you were talking about you would understand that this plant is very good for this community. It provides excellent paying jobs, generates tax revenue and has paid and pays the city for the grey water (which they have shut down numerous times because of politics) and its facilities that have no were else to go. If the grey water is not used than more water is drawn from the ground (which still isnít as much as you might think). I think the reason it gets so much bad publicity is that the crooked politicians havenít been able to dip theyíre grimy little hands in it and people donít understand the technology involved. Itís not a Trojan horse.

Now about the water, before you start throwing out facts that you know nothing about, the water that is used is not as much as you think and no more than the average farmer uses (no offence farmers I appreciate what you do). It is a zero discharge plant and the water that is used, as I mentioned earlier, is not any more then the average farmer uses.
So your ďopinionĒ about the Gas Fired Plant is incorrect, please check your facts before you start putting things and people down. If you have questions, please ask, donít assume, because we all know what happens when you assume. Iíve read articles about growing the economy of this community and this plant contributes significantly. It also sponsors events and activities that I have yet to see be motioned by the paper or any were else. Please rethink your statement, I do apologize for be so brash, but you kind of threw a low blow with nothing to back your claim. I do not work for the Gas fired power plant, but I am retired from the industry, so please check your facts. I would get into the chlorine issue, but I have no time. Thank you and god bless.
LINDA

United States

#38 Mar 3, 2008
THANK THE LORD THAT THERE WILL BE SOMETHING TO DO IN THIS TOWN. ALL DEMING OFFERS IS RESTAURANTS (MOSTLY MEXICAN), LOAN COMPANIES, AND CHURCHES. THAT RUINS OUR DOWNTOWN, CHURCHES AND LOAN COMPANIES. WHOSE IDEA WAS THAT. A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE!!!! A CASINO WILL MAKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY, HOPE THE BIG ONE IS BUILT ASAP. I WOULD GLADLY DONATE MY MONEY TO THE INDIANS, AT LEAST THEY KNOW HOW TO HAVE SOME FUN. GET WITH IT CITY COUNCEL OF DEMING. DO SOMETHING. AND AS FOR GOV. RICHARDSON, GET A LIFE. YOU HAVE CASINO'S WHERE YOU ARE, MAYBE NOT ENOUGH MONEY BEING OFFERED TO THE STATE. TOO BAD, GET LOST.
iop

Rio Rancho, NM

#39 Mar 4, 2008
THIS IS for stopTAGGING ourWALLS in Albuquerque,don't knock something you have no clue about.Those trailers butted against each other brings jobs for people.

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