Anthony casino plans get new foe

Anthony casino plans get new foe

There are 18 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Oct 7, 2010, titled Anthony casino plans get new foe. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

The Mescalero Apache Tribe - owners of the Inn of the Mountain Gods, which includes a resort hotel, golf course and full-service casino - has now officially voiced its opposition to a proposal by Jemez Pueblo to built a hotel and casino just north of Anthony.

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Tom Iacullo

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Oct 7, 2010
Why listen to all those political hacks, and greedy tribal and non tribal operations. I firmly believe as many others do that the Anthony Casino should get the go-ahead. The public wants it done. Las Cruces should get its head out of the dirt, and move toward the future. Its backward stance only aggravates the residents. Lets get rid of the churches who have been hindering progress toward making Las Cruces truly stand out, and be counted as a progressive state instead of a hick town. LETS GET IT ON AND BUILD IT.

“Close the Borders”

Since: Jun 08

Out in the County

#2 Oct 7, 2010
How ironic that one tribe would partner with a racetrack owned by a white man and opposed Indian gaming by another tribe.

I guess the Mescallero and Stan Fulton do not believe there is enough to go around.

I knew this would happen one day. Indian v. Indian over gambling rights. All the Jemez wants is a small piece of the trillions of dollars generated by Indian-run gambling, yet the Mescallero stand firm against their own.

IRONIC.

Since: Apr 09

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Oct 7, 2010
I would LOVE to see a real casino near Las Cruces! Never played at the racetrack... I like playing cards and I've also heard that the poker slots at the track are just too tight. Inn of the Mountain Gods would be nice to play at but it's just too dang far away and way too expensive for a room there. I was there once, 14 or 15 years ago.

Yeah, it's all about the dollar for these casinos opposing this new casino. The Albuquerque casinos don't seem to be having a problem and there are 4 up there, not counting the racetrack. Between El Paso and Las Cruces, there's plenty of money to go around and I can't imagine this new casino having to much of an impact, if any, on the Mescalero casino. Maybe if they lowered room rates, people would love to get outta town for a night to stay and play there. I would! But I'm not about to drive 2 hrs to play for a couple and then drive 2 hours home. As for the racetrack, good ol' Stan will just have to come up with some decent promotions and benefits to playing in his place. There are plenty of slot players who will continue to frequent his establishment and plenty of people who will try this new place for slots and decide they wanna go back to the track.

But I'm not gonna hold my breath for some "alternative entertainment"...
JjJ

Las Cruces, NM

#4 Oct 7, 2010
Should there be concern with the location? Anthony has a reputation for unusual amounts of violent crime against residents and visitors, drug and gang activity to the point that some trucking companies have asked their drivers not to gas up their rigs at Anthony exits. I like the idea of a casino, always good for economic growth, but maybe not in Anthony. Casinos usually keep crime down, but could be a challenge in that town.
Get a life

Santa Fe, NM

#5 Oct 7, 2010
A little competition is good. Sunland Park is just too crowded with people waiting for machines. There are so few penny machines that there are literally lines for those machines. Machines that other casinos have for a penny Sunland Park has for two, three or five cents. A new casino would make Sunland Park look at having a wider variety of machines.

Inn of the Mountain Gods is so far off the beaten path from here. It is so much easier to go to Sunland Park or Albuquerque. If their machines paid better (the same with Sunland Park) more people would go out for a day of fun.

Sunland Park would do well to try to get some of their guests to have some manners. Ashtrays are put out for a reason - to use for your cigarette ashes and matches. Lots of people simply flick their ashes anywhere or use other peoples' drinks. I have had ashes in my lap, purse and drink. When I confront them they act like they don't have a clue what I'm saying or glare at me. Total disrespect for others.
LCGUY

Mesilla, NM

#6 Oct 7, 2010
I think Jemez pueblo should think twice about attempting to open a casino off tribabl land. I think it's the old story of the natives being taken advantage by the white man. Do they really need Mr. Peters? I think he's in it for himself and is just trying to get rich by using the Jemez Pueblo as they will bank roll the court fights.... I am sure it's not coming out of his pocket.. but his pockets will be ready to take in any money gained if the venture does go through.

Locals need to see actual numbers from northern NM and how gambling will impact the community. Those who tend to go gamble are the poor who think they will win big. They lose some then go back again in the hopes to win back what they lost only to lose again. Soon they will mortgage their homes.. same thing is happening in northern NM.
editor

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Oct 7, 2010
where is the editor ??

"Jemez Pueblo to built a hotel and casino just north of Anthony."

how do I built??
sorry

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Oct 7, 2010
Tom Iacullo wrote:
Why listen to all those political hacks, and greedy tribal and non tribal operations. I firmly believe as many others do that the Anthony Casino should get the go-ahead. The public wants it done. Las Cruces should get its head out of the dirt, and move toward the future. Its backward stance only aggravates the residents. Lets get rid of the churches who have been hindering progress toward making Las Cruces truly stand out, and be counted as a progressive state instead of a hick town. LETS GET IT ON AND BUILD IT.
whoever said that building a casino was a step towards the future. it is actually a step back. another addiction to the weak minded. We have enough casinos in the area, they are for recreational use not as a lifestyle.

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#10 Oct 7, 2010
of course competitors jockeying for the same buck are going to contest a new player.

competition is good. So no competition is better?

Break ground ASAP, build it with local contractors, hire many hundreds of local workers, give players a place to giggle their coin purses and get it on.

Cut the deck!
ciscoc

El Paso, TX

#11 Oct 7, 2010
People are going to gamble no matter what. What's wrong with more jobs for Anthony? The new casino will force Sunland Park and Inn of the Mountain Gods to compete (pay out some money instead of keeping it all for themselves) if they want to survive. I say build it, the sooner the better.
nes1

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Oct 7, 2010
sorry wrote:
<quoted text>whoever said that building a casino was a step towards the future. it is actually a step back. another addiction to the weak minded. We have enough casinos in the area, they are for recreational use not as a lifestyle.

anything that attracts out of state tourists is a step up, besides spending money at the casino, alot of them will be spending money in the community as well
Support The New Casino

United States

#13 Oct 7, 2010
There needs to be competition, especially since Sunland Park and the ones in Ruidoso totally SUCK and rarely pay anything out to amount to anything. The odds can't be that bad, ALL of the time, there's something fishy there. Let a new one come in, then watch how the slots start paying off everywhere suddenly. Competition is a wonderful thing. Go for it! Great idea!
Just a thought

United States

#14 Oct 7, 2010
Regardless of whether a casino will be built or not, I think it's a shame that with all that the Native American community has been through, the hatred between the tribes remains. I've been fortunate to deal with the Mescalero and Jemez communities for years now through my work. There's a lot of good people in each community. I just don't understand how a resolution has not been made between the tribes by now. Mescalero has a beautiful casino, but they're pretty much going belly up just like the racetrack. They should give Jemez their blessings to build the casino and both tribes should help each other promote their cash cows and come out ahead instead of trying to keep one another down.
eilackey

United States

#15 Oct 8, 2010
oldnavy2001 wrote:
How ironic that one tribe would partner with a racetrack owned by a white man and opposed Indian gaming by another tribe.
I guess the Mescallero and Stan Fulton do not believe there is enough to go around.
I knew this would happen one day. Indian v. Indian over gambling rights. All the Jemez wants is a small piece of the trillions of dollars generated by Indian-run gambling, yet the Mescallero stand firm against their own.
IRONIC.
The Mescalero and Jemez may both be Indian tribes but they are not the same. So No, it's not "ironic." The Apache were nomadic while the Jemez were a Pueblo tribe. The Jemez chose long ago where they wanted to live. The Apache being hunter/gathers required more land. Anthony, NM is within Apache territory.

Besides, judging by the amount of money that they wanted to spend on constructing a casino here they're making good money at their reservation. The Jemez are just getting greedy. Who knows maybe Mr. Chino can entice the Navajo Nation to spread out into Jemez territory. Let's see how they like it.
eilackey

United States

#16 Oct 8, 2010
Just a thought wrote:
Regardless of whether a casino will be built or not, I think it's a shame that with all that the Native American community has been through, the hatred between the tribes remains. I've been fortunate to deal with the Mescalero and Jemez communities for years now through my work. There's a lot of good people in each community. I just don't understand how a resolution has not been made between the tribes by now. Mescalero has a beautiful casino, but they're pretty much going belly up just like the racetrack. They should give Jemez their blessings to build the casino and both tribes should help each other promote their cash cows and come out ahead instead of trying to keep one another down.
Sounds great. Now lets see how happy you will be when the Mescalero go belly up and your taxes get raised to help support the Mescalero because you thought that taking away from the Mescalero and giving to the Jemez was a great idea.
On the fence

Las Cruces, NM

#17 Oct 8, 2010
Good lord!! The U.S. gives economic aide to less fortunate third world countries all the time to help build up their economies and hopefully erase their poverty and crime.

Anthony is full of poverty, crime and jobless people like a third world country. This casino is a huge opportunity to do some good for two communities in need. The casino would easy be accessed by people from Texas, Mexico, New Mexico and it has one of the busiest interstate highways in the country going by it.

This project would have a huge positive impact by bring new money to the state of New Mexico tax coffers and helping the areas of Anthony and the pueblo of Jemez out of their economic problems at the same time. Unlike U.S. economic aide to third world country, this project does not require tax payer money ... it takes the tax burden off the tax payers in may ways for a change.

This Anthony casino is a no brainer!!

“Irony, metaphor, film @ eleven”

Since: Feb 08

Old Mesilla/New Las Cruces

#18 Oct 8, 2010
Will the Dept Of the Interior win or will the
willing and able developers of a new cash rich enterprise such as a casino win?

Will the 3rd world ghetto conditions and decrepit infrastructure of Anthony be it's own worse frienemy?

Will the other casino tribes cut off their own noses to spite their collective faces to make a point to keep out healthy cash-rich competition?

Will I have smoked barbecue brisket with ranch style beans, slaw & tea for lunch today?

Bet on the last at even money. You won't win, but you won't lose either.

Say "YES" to the Anthony Casino proposition.
Christian Soldier 1

Woodbridge, NJ

#19 Oct 8, 2010
Does Tom know what he is talking about?

What does this issue have to do with churches in Las Cruces?

He needs medication......

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